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1 First round everyone pays the entry fee. Make it whatever you want.
2 you make the night show then you get a non transferable free entry to any other event for the remainder of the season.
3 Free advertising of some kind to fuel company's who put up gas cards to the riders that make the night show.
4 There should be a set percentage of all advertising $$$ that goes to the pay outs. Even if it's as low as 1% it would be a start. You could could add it to the total amount as a "rider tax" what company is going to complain about that if they know it's going directly to the top 50 riders.
5 If it's really run on such a tight budget (not) at least add $1.00 per ticket and add it to the purse across the board. Right now the majority of the "professional" participants are paying to compete! This is unacceptable and for a healthy sport to continue it must change period...
The night show in SX and the Mains in MX should be the cut off where at the very least the riders don't have to pay to compete. Wouldn't all industry people agree on that? The bottom line is that it's a disgrace the way it's being handled right now both indoors and out.
TbonesPop is right.
Capitalism is the answer!!!
I've even heard of Feld or AMA ( not sure which) fining teams for handing out promotional items.
They riders do not even own the rights to their own image.
They take them and stick them or "tag" things at the stadiums and the stadiums got tired of having to clean them up everywhere. Years ago it became a major issue where they were being charged and threatened with vandalism to clean up after the races.
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Just giving the facts on the stickers and other grossly wrong points brought up by others that were pure speculation and guesses. My apologies I am trying to inform you on one of your points.
That's the problem with threads like this. lots of misinformation and guesses, then some facts come out and you are a nut hugger industry guy. Motos XXX was threatened multiple times for handing out stickers because of this exact reason. Those guys are brothers to me and I watched them get threatened. Stickers used to get handed out all the time, then they were outlawed, not because of greed but because of vandalism . (which it was considered)
I think lots can be improved and I have stated that. I just hate when facts get int he way of a good bash fest. I just stated that capitalism is the answer and I wish the riders could bank a little more on there likeness, like merchandising. But the sticker thing, it became a legit problem. Sorry to pass that on....
If that wasn't the reason and it was purely because of logo's and sponsors, then posters would be outlawed as well, they have the same logos on them right?
This works in professional golf and, of course, in NASCAR. I’m not sure that Feld or the AMA is going to come up with much more purse money than they already do, so this might be the best bet.
2) I do need to put this out there, there is no way Feld pays for tv programming for supercross.
3) Lastly, maybe they should arrest the little kids for putting stickers on stuff.
Is that what your trying to say?
Running a business is about self preservation. You keep as much in your pocket as you can unless otherwise forced to. The promoter knows the riders have no power because they are not organized and thus they will never pay more. Never.
Every rider that isnt a factory rider should boycot Atlanta, arguably the biggest race on the circuit as a protest. Only having 12 riders line up for the 450 heat races and 10 for the 250s would be a show of force.
If the privateers arnt making any money anyways, what would it hurt?
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I'm from Cleveland and and have been a fan of the SX and MX for 25 years. We don't have a supercross in the area and I was in Dallas this past weekend and got to attend my first live supercross w/ the exception of Cleveland in 95'.
I realized supercross is a show and motocross is a race. From my viewpoint 97+% of the people in the stands are casual fans at best., or ride four wheelers.
Supercross could be taken over and scripted by the WWF and would make more money. and provide the same entertainment. You could put 50 guys on a train and call it the Barnum & Bailey Supercross and the riders would actually make a living.
Might be a good idea to mix Nitro Circus w/ supercross.
If teams were able to sell things like shirts, hats, or even a cheap calendar or something, I think that would help out a lot. I would gladly give a privateer 5 bucks or so for a small calendar with some pics for each month, and I think others would to. For Feld not to allow this is absolutely rediculous, and seems pretty greedy in my opinion.
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I am saying we don't know the profit margin at each race, we are all guessing.
However, it has to be different at each race right? None of us work on the inner circles of the races to know, I imagine the cost is a lot higher than we think based on simple operating costs of any business.
Why does everyone think that SX is such a crazy moneymaker, to where the promotor can kick extra money into the purse? They are in it to make as much as possible, it's a business! Didn't we just learn form an earlier post the AMA sets the purse? In this day and age, I wouldn't be surprised the profit isn't as much as many think, I am not saying they aren't making money. Yes there is profit because it is around still, but we don't know how much. Just because the cost of going racing is more, doesn't mean the powers at be are making more. You can't come up with a formula about the amount of tickets sold and an average ticket price and automatically think there is an abundance of money based on that.
What if at some of the rounds money is lost due to low attendance? Should the purse be lower at those rounds for the riders not filling the seats? Should the purse "float" based on how many people are in the seats? In all businesses, when it becomes more viable, that doesn't mean the employees automatically get raises. The bosses, that own and built the business get more., or put more away to invest in other avenues of their business.
What you are asking me about is profit sharing and not racing for purse money. The purse is consistent every race, the profit/loss isn't.
I AM ON BOARD WITH JIMMY. I WISH THE PURSE WAS MORE as does everyone else. The purse isn't where you are going to make money, it never has been. Even the best, in the big picture can't depend on the purse to make a living.
The ONLY thing I wish Feld could do is allow the riders to exploit themselves and capitalize as being a rider in the show. Even then, I am sure they have sponsor contractual obligations and it wouldn't be fair to charge some sponsors but let some riders sponsors do stuff for free.
I think there needs to be more education about where the purse comes from and the cost of putting a race on before we want to burn FELD or the AMA at the stake for not paying the riders what some of us feel they deserve.
Although I completely agree with Jimmy, he isn't the first nor the last to complain about the purse and he for sure will not be black balled or not get a ride for voicing his opinion. Many factory riders have voiced the same thing. He isn't a pioneer on complaining about the purse. Nobody disagrees with him. He gets results, he will get a ride.
and I have since I was a part of the series.
Its a complicated matter for sure. Also, it's more than just 97% of casual fans showing up, its core fans who spend money on oils, gear, and other parts. No other reason why sponsors would pony up cash to get their logos on rigs, bikes and tuff blocks. Industry exposure is the reason why privateers risk/ensure financial loss to race incredibly talented top pros they have no chance whatsoever being close to competing with. Its a tough racket man.
Regis is far better informed than most of the folks on this board.
I think he is trying to inject accurate some facts into the discussion, and not let the "Dave Prater is a billionaire" set walk off with a post of blithering nonsense.
I do not see him as defending them as much as I see him saying "Hey, wait, this is how it really is".
And, he is correct...
But if you want to think Prater is a billionaire, then what does that make his boss?
And then his boss's boss?
And then Mr. Mancuso, who reports to Ms. Feld, Ken Felds daughter, who probably reports to Mr Feld himself?
Are they all Billionaires in that food chain?
No, they are not, but the misinformation and assumptions based on incorrect info is amusing. I am glad Regis is trying to keep some of you grounded with info.
Same old song and dance with a lot of issues to resolve. First, the privateers could band together and make a difference...but it would take all of them and I just don't see it happening. If they all walk the show will be severely hampered. Decotis' words are true but words alone won't change a thing.
To me the biggest issue is that the AMA has never promoted any of their sports worth a damn, especially to potential sponsors. I always marvel at how NECKCAR has promoted itself and become the biggest spectator sport in the US. A bunch of freakin' rednecks driving around in circles and the last place driver makes over $250,000 per event .
Just for the hell of it I thought of the lamest "sport" I knew of and wondered how much the participants got paid. Well, I think bowling is about as lame as it gets as far as being considered a sport (although it's fun after a few cold ones).
It seems that the average Pro Bowlers Association event pays the winner about $20,000 and last place (36th) gets about $750!
That really makes this situation sad in my eyes!
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