Pete Fox clears the air

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 8:39pm
MXA has an interview with Pete Fox, good read.

MXA: OBVIOUSLY FOX COULD HAVE UPPED THE ANTE AND KEPT JAMES, WHAT WERE THE MOTIVATIONS THAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO LET HIM GO, AND TO WHAT EXTENT DID JAMES' DECISION TO BECOME A SUPERCROSS-ONLY RIDER PLAY INTO YOUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH HIM?

Pete: Since our beginning, Fox has been totally committed to motocross and Supercross. We feel strongly that our sport and Industry need both series to be healthy, and Fox will always support both series. That is where Fox's priorities and path recently separated from James. We wish James luck with his Supercross career. Fox remains committed to the entire sport of both Supercross and motocross.

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BobbyM 9/10/2008 5:16pm
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good for them!@

The Fox family has always been straight shooters...being from norcal and all.
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RV races mx and sx...??? its been a long time since ive seen BT ride. what does he wear?? i can only remember him in his pc mandatory thor gear.

says something about answer tho. they want to establish an association with themselves and champions like fox has done over the years.
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vet954 9/10/2008 5:49pm
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Fox is the only company taking the anti stupidcross-only road. From now on we are only supporting the riders that do the outdoors and stupidcross. Class act. Great for the sport as a whole.
I am dumping the thor gear and going only FOX for 2009. They have been in our sport since day one in the USA.

I will join FOX RACING and their priorities. Stupidcross only......see ya bye. That includes the riders and the companies that support them.

And screw the limited outdoor season shit. Either you are a racer or you are IN IT FOR THE MONEY. Cut and dried.

I pray MX Sports and the AMA NEVER let a stupidcross only rider race for our country in the MXoN.



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vet954 9/10/2008 5:52pm
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And as far as "answer gear" goes. If you love the outdoor nationals NEVER buy anything from that company! (not that anyone would)

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500guy 9/10/2008 5:54pm
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Alright man

about time these companies fight back on the SX only deals
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I call bullshit on "Supercross only" being a factor in the negotiations. But that's a fucking brilliant PR tactic to spin this in their favor. Now they are more "core" than James Stewart?!
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They've thrown millions of dollars at their riders in the past. And those riders have always ran both series'. I don't believe it's as much spin as you think.

You can say what you want about SX vs MX exposure/TV ratings etc.... it all has to boil down to if you think you're getting the best return on your investment. Fox didn't think so with a SX only rider and has turned the page.

IT'S NOCAL, NOT NORCAL. SOUCAL idiots. Water stealin bitches.
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psychcle 9/10/2008 6:33pm
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Noob... I heard Bubbles didn't want to ride for a surfwear company... and the Bull lid was sweet... btw... it's SO CAL = S tay O ff my properdy with them der motorcicles!
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Core or not, I think its a bad idea NOT to have the fastest rider in the world, not wearing your gear. If Fox was as core as think they are, I wouldn't be able to buy their stuff at the mall. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Fox being in the malls. James gets more camera time, in more magazines than any other rider, why wouldn't you not want him in your gear?
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I would like to believe that the primary reason behind Fox's decision is the Supercross only deal, but unfortunately, I suspect that the truth lies more in the lack of return on their investment - I'm sure the Stewart camp was chasing major dollars and that at the end of the day, given the poor television and mainstream media coverage, Fox couldn't justify the dollars. That said, while I can't blame James for trying to maximize his earning potential, I'm disappointed in the lack of loyalty.
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jmar 9/10/2008 8:08pm
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ocscottie wrote:
MXA has an interview with Pete Fox, good read. MXA: OBVIOUSLY FOX COULD HAVE UPPED THE ANTE AND KEPT JAMES, WHAT WERE THE MOTIVATIONS THAT MADE...
MXA has an interview with Pete Fox, good read.

MXA: OBVIOUSLY FOX COULD HAVE UPPED THE ANTE AND KEPT JAMES, WHAT WERE THE MOTIVATIONS THAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO LET HIM GO, AND TO WHAT EXTENT DID JAMES' DECISION TO BECOME A SUPERCROSS-ONLY RIDER PLAY INTO YOUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH HIM?

Pete: Since our beginning, Fox has been totally committed to motocross and Supercross. We feel strongly that our sport and Industry need both series to be healthy, and Fox will always support both series. That is where Fox's priorities and path recently separated from James. We wish James luck with his Supercross career. Fox remains committed to the entire sport of both Supercross and motocross.

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Talk about a brilliant marketing strategy. Who ever is running the marking department is really earning their money.
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BobbyM 9/10/2008 8:12pm
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noob wrote:
I call bullshit on "Supercross only" being a factor in the negotiations. But that's a fucking [u]brilliant[/u] PR tactic to spin this in their favor. Now...
I call bullshit on "Supercross only" being a factor in the negotiations. But that's a fucking brilliant PR tactic to spin this in their favor. Now they are more "core" than James Stewart?!
and you are more core than yer sister...hardcore bitch! Smile
Blackopsrider7 9/10/2008 8:18pm
9/10/2008 8:18pm
This is hilarious, entertaining nonetheless!! Like I said before James could wear jeans and work boots, he is still fast!!
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jmar 9/10/2008 8:23pm
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vet954 wrote:
And as far as "answer gear" goes. If you love the outdoor nationals NEVER buy anything from that company! (not that anyone would)

I hope you realize that such powerful words could bankrupt a company like Answer.

Do you want to live with that on your conscience? lol
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KAWboy14 9/10/2008 8:27pm
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fixed it:

MXA: OBVIOUSLY FOX COULD HAVE UPPED THE ANTE AND KEPT JAMES, WHAT WERE THE MOTIVATIONS THAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO LET HIM GO, AND TO WHAT EXTENT DID JAMES' DECISION TO BECOME A SUPERCROSS-ONLY RIDER PLAY INTO YOUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH HIM?

Pete: Since our beginning, Fox has been totally committed to NEVER PAY TWICE AS MUCH FOR HALF AS MUCH!

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Trip wrote:
Core or not, I think its a bad idea NOT to have the fastest rider in the world, not wearing your gear. If Fox was as...
Core or not, I think its a bad idea NOT to have the fastest rider in the world, not wearing your gear. If Fox was as core as think they are, I wouldn't be able to buy their stuff at the mall. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Fox being in the malls. James gets more camera time, in more magazines than any other rider, why wouldn't you not want him in your gear?
Its all about the $$$$$$$.. Same as Kawasaki. They couldn't afford him either.
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Steve47 9/10/2008 9:08pm
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I think I'm gonna buy some freaking FOX outfit now!!!

This rocks! Supercross only my ass...
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I have been working with Fox for years and they are an incredible company. One of their top guys was so excited that he could stay at LL's all week and see the entire week of racing and "support his riders"....and damn, was all over the place - all week.

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rockcrawlerdude 9/10/2008 9:21pm
9/10/2008 9:21pm
in away im disappointed in James becuz when i thought of him it was Kawasaki and FOX my 2 fav MX brands... BUT at the same time i dont blame him for going after the BIG $$$$ i mean with the way this sport is it would be awesome to make your millions and retire BEFORE you get too broken up to do so and to enjoy retirement at a young age.......
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TimbuK758 9/10/2008 9:27pm
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very interesting situation...its wierd to not see anything on racer x about it yet...

oh and i was hoping he would sign with moose.
Matt Fisher 9/10/2008 9:38pm
9/10/2008 9:38pm
I don't care if it's only half of the truth, and the other half is the money- good for FOX.
Good for the sport!
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Slim-E 9/10/2008 9:52pm
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lies all lies....
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Trip 9/10/2008 9:53pm
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Matt Fisher wrote:
I don't care if it's only half of the truth, and the other half is the money- good for FOX.
Good for the sport!
James and Reed, no matter what gear company they ride for, it isn't good to have them not be at the nats. James and Reed, are bigger than the gear companies. They can each write their own ticket. If one company doesn't want either of them because they don't race outdoors. There are 5 companies that still will take them at half a season. There was a time when everyone wanted to ride for Fox, and Honda. Those times have changed. Yeah, I'm sure guys would love to have either of them as sponsors. Thing is Fox and Honda are nowhere near what they used to be.
Blackopsrider7 9/10/2008 10:32pm
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How many people here have done a full season of outdoors? None, how about a SX? none! Now how about both, none!! A lot of you are pretty fast on your keyboards, train for one and see how much it takes out of you!!

Work smarter not harder, we should be complimenting these guy for seeing this. No matter if James or Reed or whom ever decides to not race outdoors, there is still going to be racing!!
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andymoto 9/10/2008 10:38pm
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Support those who support the sport.

Not just half of it.

Core moto......Fox has been a huge part of our moto history and continues the legend.
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v1rus99 9/11/2008 12:30am
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Do you think that James moving has anything with "Monster Energy" and "Red Bull"?

We all know Red Bull bought him a lovely gift and then Monster got signed an deal with Kawasaki?

Is the money "Red Bull" will pay him worth more than his Kawasaki contract...
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gnarwhip 9/11/2008 1:15am
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Haha good for Stewart...he's the most talented motocross racer in history, and I can't believe Fox is using the whole "we fired him 'cus he wants sx only" excuse when he has repeatedly said he would like to race mx in '09. "At least they have the GOAT"...LOL they can keep him. No wonder MC left Fox back in the day...bunch of tools. Stewart just went up a notch in my book... I think Cryin' Littlehomo would fit in prefect at Fox.
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teggers 9/11/2008 1:24am
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Blackopsrider7 wrote:
How many people here have done a full season of outdoors? None, how about a SX? none! Now how about both, none!! A lot of you...
How many people here have done a full season of outdoors? None, how about a SX? none! Now how about both, none!! A lot of you are pretty fast on your keyboards, train for one and see how much it takes out of you!!

Work smarter not harder, we should be complimenting these guy for seeing this. No matter if James or Reed or whom ever decides to not race outdoors, there is still going to be racing!!
I'm with you on this...

Seriously. The outdoors can't continue the way they are.....

I have some ideas that will get the World Mxers here...(including our best)....Incredible TV coverage and they won't mind bypassing the Worlds'. I have already posted some of the ideas in other threads, but there is so much more.

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