So what is Dungey working to improve?

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Outsider 10/9/2013 10:21am
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AS64 wrote:
Isn't training? [embed][/embed]
Isn't training?
Those must be some fan-fucking-tastic tires because how do you corner that leaned over, in a tight corner, while riding the front brake?Blink
Mitch_Berger 10/9/2013 12:44pm
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He needs a vacation and some trail riding in Hawaii with Greg Albertyn.
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AS64 wrote:
Isn't training? [embed][/embed]
Isn't training?
Outsider wrote:
Those must be some fan-fucking-tastic tires because how do you corner that leaned over, in a tight corner, while riding the front brake?Blink
Seriously! I would be smashing myself into the ground at about that point.
dazzlindino 10/9/2013 12:58pm
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AS64 wrote:
Isn't training? [embed][/embed]
Isn't training?
Outsider wrote:
Those must be some fan-fucking-tastic tires because how do you corner that leaned over, in a tight corner, while riding the front brake?Blink
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Seriously! I would be smashing myself into the ground at about that point.
HaHa...thats why rv'ster makes the big bux.......

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mototed 82 10/9/2013 1:19pm
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he needs to read vital
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I WOULD say high finance and investing millions of dollars for people under 25 sessions 101
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fouledplugs 10/9/2013 1:44pm
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If history repeats its self he just needs to ride smart and wait for RV to crash out near the end of SX ala 2010 and...
If history repeats its self he just needs to ride smart and wait for RV to crash out near the end of SX ala 2010 and 2012. Dungey is probably at his max, he cant beat RV on a constant basis. On his good days he is as good as it gets but he will not hang out like RV and that sure helped him win the 2010 and 2012 MX titles as RV crashed out.
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just curious what titles RV crashed out of as you say? 09 he pulled out with a torn knee, not from a crash from hanging it...
just curious what titles RV crashed out of as you say?

09 he pulled out with a torn knee, not from a crash from hanging it out.
10 supercross, yes, gnarly crash in supercross while battling the Dunge
12 supercross silly foot dab in a slow corner
current injury just fixing past issues

i just think it's funny everyone acts like RV wrecks out from riding aggressively or hanging it out of these championships he's missed out on.


back on topic... as for Dungey, the guy is sometimes the fastest guy out there (Budds this year) but he is seriously unable to come through the pack like RV. it gets frustrating watching Dungey follow someone he is clearly faster than for more than one lap (Alessi in moto, VanHoorbeek in the MXdN).
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in the pack looking for the lead, he made mistakes, went down, and couldnt kep up. I think they key for RD is to get a great start and put pressure on RV.
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mototed 82 wrote:
he needs to read vital
To pick up advice like yours? Wink

I think he's notched up his aggression a bit. I also think his speed was much higher than last summer, by necessity.

What is he probably working on? Intensity early in main events for Supercross.
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IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in...
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in the pack looking for the lead, he made mistakes, went down, and couldnt kep up. I think they key for RD is to get a great start and put pressure on RV.
You've got to be kidding about not riding well under pressure. That's where he is at his best. When the pressure is on, he always comes through.
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It's not that Dungeys starts are bad, it's the fact that it takes him about 3 laps to come up to the speed that some others are already at for 3 laps.
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fouledplugs wrote:
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in...
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in the pack looking for the lead, he made mistakes, went down, and couldnt kep up. I think they key for RD is to get a great start and put pressure on RV.
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You've got to be kidding about not riding well under pressure. That's where he is at his best. When the pressure is on, he always comes...
You've got to be kidding about not riding well under pressure. That's where he is at his best. When the pressure is on, he always comes through.
I like the part where he says RV can't keep up! WTF! LOL!
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Early Moto Intensity
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fouledplugs wrote:
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in...
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in the pack looking for the lead, he made mistakes, went down, and couldnt kep up. I think they key for RD is to get a great start and put pressure on RV.
TDeath21 wrote:
You've got to be kidding about not riding well under pressure. That's where he is at his best. When the pressure is on, he always comes...
You've got to be kidding about not riding well under pressure. That's where he is at his best. When the pressure is on, he always comes through.
LappedU wrote:
I like the part where he says RV can't keep up! WTF! LOL!
my guess is the one moto this summer that he wasn't able to keep up with Dungey at Budds 2nd moto?

either way, saying RV can't handle pressure is the second dumbest thing i've read in here. the dumbest being that he can't keep up.
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mx 219 10/9/2013 2:58pm
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things wont change..

he's needed to be more aggressive, pass sooner, ride over his limtis just a bit more and we saw him do this some this year, but its just not him to ride aggressively.

Ready to see what Eli can do and how Stewart can ride this year. I think this SX season will help show what Stewart has and will let us really get an idea of how soon he will retire.
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fouledplugs wrote:
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in...
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in the pack looking for the lead, he made mistakes, went down, and couldnt kep up. I think they key for RD is to get a great start and put pressure on RV.
Did I really just read that?
wired4speed 10/9/2013 3:07pm
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If he plans on bringing up his game to match RV then he needs to concentrate on the same thing other riders need to do. Bike Set Up. The Kawi's 450f motor consistently runs clean without coughing or sounding like its about to break apart like the factory 450f Honda motors. They sound like the first generation 450f factory Yamaha engines. Dungey just didn't look like he had as good of a suspension set up as his found on his factory Suzuki. Other than that RV is aggressive in turns from the first lap to the last lap. All you have to do is match his aggression. Piece of cake.
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PressPassP 10/9/2013 3:11pm
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RV hauls through the pack like he does because he's a notch quicker and he rides at nearer his 100%,he's often on the edge,he did have more yard sales and nearly moments last year

Dungey's was faster than everyone else in the US last year most of the time and rides with his head,maybe he had to push it a bit more,take a few more chances and be a bit more ruthless?
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To pick up advice like yours? ;) I think he's notched up his aggression a bit. I also think his speed was much higher than last...
To pick up advice like yours? Wink

I think he's notched up his aggression a bit. I also think his speed was much higher than last summer, by necessity.

What is he probably working on? Intensity early in main events for Supercross.
not my advice personally , Grinning

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fouledplugs 10/9/2013 3:20pm
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IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in...
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in the pack looking for the lead, he made mistakes, went down, and couldnt kep up. I think they key for RD is to get a great start and put pressure on RV.
zook11 wrote:
Did I really just read that?
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base my opinion. Put pressure on him, hope that history repeats itsself and he falls or makes a small mistake.
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fouledplugs wrote:
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base...
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base my opinion. Put pressure on him, hope that history repeats itsself and he falls or makes a small mistake.
Do you think that is a good strategy? Not to pass and beat him, but hope he crashes
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fouledplugs wrote:
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in...
IMO RV cant seem to ride very well under pressure, look at the few times (yes few) where he had a bad start or was in the pack looking for the lead, he made mistakes, went down, and couldnt kep up. I think they key for RD is to get a great start and put pressure on RV.
zook11 wrote:
Did I really just read that?
fouledplugs wrote:
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base...
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base my opinion. Put pressure on him, hope that history repeats itsself and he falls or makes a small mistake.
just curious of when someone put pressure on him and he fell?
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fouledplugs 10/9/2013 3:35pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
You've got to be kidding about not riding well under pressure. That's where he is at his best. When the pressure is on, he always comes...
You've got to be kidding about not riding well under pressure. That's where he is at his best. When the pressure is on, he always comes through.
LappedU wrote:
I like the part where he says RV can't keep up! WTF! LOL!
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my guess is the one moto this summer that he wasn't able to keep up with Dungey at Budds 2nd moto? either way, saying RV can't...
my guess is the one moto this summer that he wasn't able to keep up with Dungey at Budds 2nd moto?

either way, saying RV can't handle pressure is the second dumbest thing i've read in here. the dumbest being that he can't keep up.
I cant recall Budds moto 1.

MIllville Moto1 he falls after he has a bad start. I would guess that when your expected to win and being in the pack would cause pressure, resulting in a fall, I think he fell twice in that moto. And IMO that was caused by pressure that he may or may not have put on himself to win a moto. Also, Millville Moto2 wasnt so hot for him either.

I will also respect the fact that no one has been able to give him a good race from event to event. So not taking away the fact that he is fast, he wins and he is dominating. Simply stating that IMO pressure him and he will fall or make a mistake.
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fouledplugs 10/9/2013 3:47pm
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zook11 wrote:
Did I really just read that?
fouledplugs wrote:
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base...
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base my opinion. Put pressure on him, hope that history repeats itsself and he falls or makes a small mistake.
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just curious of when someone put pressure on him and he fell?
You don't think that he has pressure on him to win every moto on every weekend?

He has made a name for himself, and not winnning is going to without a doubt, put pressure on him.

I could have sworn this past Supercross season he made some mistakes when Stewy put pressure on him.


Do you not agree on that?
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fouledplugs 10/9/2013 3:55pm
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zook11 wrote:
Did I really just read that?
fouledplugs wrote:
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base...
Well he does seem to make most of his mistakes under pressure, and its not often he is under pressure, so that is where I base my opinion. Put pressure on him, hope that history repeats itsself and he falls or makes a small mistake.
peelout wrote:
just curious of when someone put pressure on him and he fell?
Presspassp answers that for you
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mynewcr250 10/9/2013 4:15pm
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Isn't training? [embed][/embed]
Isn't training?
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Those must be some fan-fucking-tastic tires because how do you corner that leaned over, in a tight corner, while riding the front brake?Blink
yes, its the tire.
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RD5 just needs to wake up as a ginger the day of A1 and he will be blazing fast. Seems to be the trend.
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Hopefully he's working to improve his results, which requires everything. He's got a lot of work to do.
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brimx153 10/9/2013 4:46pm
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PressPassP wrote:
Maybe more like this?? Woohoo


https://youtu.be/FLVdcnu11GY
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that move was sooo dirty by RV , and still dungey lets him walk over him and get going first , like others have said he need s to pass quicker , and pass lappers even quicker , good few time s this yr dungey caught RV , and the min he got too the lappers that was that , i honestly believe dungey is fitter than RV , there very close , but to say he needs a trainer to get fitter to beat RV is stupid
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dantheman 10/9/2013 4:48pm
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Vital is always good for a laugh, but I must say... I almost feel guilty about it. I read what some of you write and BAM, it's like being young laughing at the mentally challenged all over again! Yeah it's funny cuz'... they don't know any better, but still... it's just sad.

So, let me get this straight... RV is the "isn't as fit as Dungey", "not training right now", mistake riddled crashfest, who can't handle pressure... baaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha

3 in a row 250 MX championships, 3 'PEAT in 450 SX and 2 time 450 MX... along with 4 MXdN titles and MEC Million Dollar MAN!

Other than having 1 aggravated preexisting knee injury(2009), a bad crash in St Loius(2010) and a silly foot dab(2012) I'd say he doing quite well in contrast to all you naysayers!!! Sure he has some falls here and there, after all, he is riding his ASS off! He's not waiting for someone to crash out to WIN a championship, he goes after it!

I guess if you can't see reality, or like the one you're living in.. jus' make up your own and write some chit on the interwebs about it, RESULT!

NOW, as far as what the Dunge' needs to do, LOOK at the tapes(races) and examine the days where he is FASTER than RV, both in SX and MX, make that happen alot more often!!! Every weekend if possible Wink

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