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Why are we talking about PED?!
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Far be it from me to pass judgement on whether or not it's ok to use modern medicine to recover from said injuries and training faster.
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Let me ask you one other question, if I may, IF YOU COULD get more fluids into your system more efficiently and more quickly, between motos, by way of an IV bag, would that be "performance enhancing?" Now, we all agree a simple saline IV is not technically a "drug" per se, but is it performance enhancing?
what would you do to make it so you could push your hardest, longer?
I don't know or care either way about peds, but when people say they wouldn't make you twist a throttle harder don't understand the point of peds.
Genetically enhanced baby's, why not get it right from the start. Growth hormones and PED's from the time the kid is born, why not get the edge from the start.
Why not just have a free for all and let the human race go for it, in 100 years time maybe we would not need two separate classes of bikes but riders separated in to Naturally aspirated humans and genetically modified humans!
THE 2113 AMA Supercross Championship
Human Class Championship Standings
Mutant Class Championship standings.
Ok maybe stretching it a bit, but where do you draw the line? Just remember if you make if OK for the Pro's to used PED's, little Johnny coming up through Armature's will be doing the same and his little five year old brother on his PW50, will only follow in his footsteps.
Again where do you draw the line.
In response to flarider; are you suggesting guys are using IV's in between moto's? That is illegal under AMA rules. Has been ever since Doug Henry was doing it in the late 90's. And under current rules, if a guy does have to get an IV from the Asterisk Medical unit, he cannot race the second moto.
Smoker; by your logic none of the guys are able to go 30+2 without PED's. Do you truly believe this? Why do Dungey and RV train like maniacs? They know what they need to do and they train accordingly. I understand the recovery aspect of PED's and understand their benefit, but I think if you tested all 40 guys on the gate the use of PED's would be much lower than the conspiracy theorist Vitards claim.
For the sake of conversation let's say RV is taking PED's. And for the sake of conversation let's say he has his PED's taken away. Does he start getting 5th, 10th, 15th place? In this instance, Dungey would take over the top spot. Does that mean Dungey is now on PED's? Can we not accept the fact that these guys are badasses and can ride a bike better than 99% of all humans?
Yes, it's against the rules, good thing no one ever cheats or seeks an advantage, huh?
Who said anything about the Asterisk unit?
Do you know what a rider is doing in their personal motor coaches between motos? How about the hauler lounge? How about their rental car?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1471562-lance-armstrong-confesses-to…
With it, one of the sport's icons of the late-1990s and early-2000s—a champion and cancer survivor—fell from the rafters of clean competition, representing the latest victim to succumb to the temptation of performance-enhancing drugs.
Unfortunately, he won't be the last.
In today's era of incredibly powerful synthetic chemistry that is becoming more and more advanced, it is difficult to look at any professional athlete and confidently state that he or she is clean.
Whether it be frank PED use or circumventing the rules in some other way, athletic competition will be tainted by doubts for some time still. And when new urine or blood tests to detect cheating come out, new ways of avoiding those tests will assuredly soon follow.
As a result, the use of PEDs has become so commonplace that it is no longer shocking when the next athlete is accused. After all, as the saying goes, "If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying." These days, far too many athletes are taking that line of thinking much too seriously.
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I was implying that a top athlete might run 80% (just a guestimate, I don't really know) so he can pace himself over 30 minutes plus two laps. Maybe a top athlete on some juice can push 85% for 30+2.
IF RV is doping and winning like he is, say he quit doping, maybe instead of beating dunge by 30 seconds, he'd only beat him by a few seconds and have to push hard while doing that and fatigue sooner and possibly crash cause he doesn't have the energy to recover if he gets out of his rut or something.
I am not accusing RV of ped use, I don't know or care, I hope he is and his body is recovering from all the brutal training he is putting his body through. But I think the people defending the ped use in the sport make stupid points.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/10-performance-enhancing-drugs.htm#pag…
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-performance-enhancing-drugs-more-common-t…
sidenote: i believe the fastest guy on the bike will always be at the front, and that RV is just flat out balls out fast, but don't be fooled by people saying that PED's don't exist in our sport, and that they don't create an advantage. a PED isn't all of a sudden going to get you 5 seconds a lap faster, but if your battling with someone who is a similiar speed, and it's getting down to the final minutes of the moto, one of you is on a PED that will simply allow you to go longer, then there's the obvious advantage.
The kids grow up with stars in their eyes when it comes that level,hard work and commitment are where its at,and I admire that but cheating is another level,it's banned and everyone cant be at it and the only way to have a level playing feild is to have more random blood testing,
I'll never understand anyone condoning the use of drugging in sport
I appreciate the organisers haven't the money or resources to do full scale testing, but if everyone, fans included, turn's a blind eye to this issue, there will be a lot more problems down the line!
No doubt riders use medications, supplements and other drugs to recover. David Pingree stated once that he has seen Human Growth Hormone in the fridge of some riders houses. Where does it become "performance enhancing". Is Wal-mart protein or joint pain medication considered PEDs? Any efforts to test for PEDs are bound to be outdated and selectively enforced.
Just declare open season on the issue. Use whatver you want and if your blood type becomes Ragu by accident or you suddenly die in your sleep at age 36 that is the risk you take.
WHAT IF you could simply take a pill that improved concentration?
Let's say you get your physician to prescribe you an ADHD med, something like Adderall?
By using something like Adderall, your concentration and focus levels improve, which is why it's commonly abuse in collegiate settings, so students can remain focused on term papers, lectures, readings, research and more, for longer periods of time.
AJ Almendinger was suspended from NASCAR for using unprescribed Adderall, for the very reason listed above. How hard do you think it is to compete at the highest levels for hours and maintain total focus throughout?
A lapse in concentration in moto can wind up with you on the ground or making dumb mistakes.
Point is, and I AM NOT accusing anyone of anything, but a "PED" is not and does not necessarily have to be a hormone, blood doping, EPO or steroid.
A "PED" or simply a "PE" (Performance enhancer) can be something as simple as a saline IV on race day or an ADHD drug.
I was keeping it simple and listing only the most well known product
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