FIM versus AMA

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Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and two from the Lite class. Who will finish where.

Stewart versus Philippaerts = Stewart
Ferry versus Ramon = Ramon
Byrne versus Coppins = Coppins
Cooper versus De Dycker or Baragan = De Dycker

Villopoto versus Rattray = Villopoto
Metcalfe versus Simpson = Simpson

FIM wins hands down, hahahaha. Or I look like a dick again.

Geoff
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8/22/2008 4:25am
I think Phillipearts will be really up for running with bubba he didnt like the US attitude last year and if he is World Champ will want to show them somthing... whether he can be anywhere near Stewart tho is somthing else tho Bubba could walk it!

Over a GP season i think your right!

over one SX race? I dont know! then again Ramon and Phillipearts wern't far off Bubba in 06!
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8/22/2008 5:27am
"FIM wins hands down, hahahaha. Or I look like a dick again." You said it. Wink
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I am pretty sure I saw Ferry crash last year at MXON and still catch and pass Ramon who was 2nd or 3rd...
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I dont think he crashed in that one... he crashed in the first moto he passed ramon with 5mins to go in the 2nd moto. That doesn't mean he will beat him this year tho... but he could ha ha

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The team that wins the event will make you look like a dick. Again.

Don't you have moto boards to go fishing on over there?
8/22/2008 6:27am
This year, every favorite team has at least a weak link. Except team USA. So...
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8/22/2008 6:37am
Geoff,

I think that you are wrong about Ferry and Cooper. We will see pretty soon. Anyway, MXDN is a team event, so individual results only matter as it affects the team results. When it comes to teams, the USA has everyone covered.
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vet954 wrote:
The team that wins the event will make you look like a dick. Again.

Don't you have moto boards to go fishing on over there?
Nope, because we all agree with him in Europe. That's why he's here.
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vet954 wrote:
The team that wins the event will make you look like a dick. Again.

Don't you have moto boards to go fishing on over there?
Jefro98 wrote:
Nope, because we all agree with him in Europe. That's why he's here.
You'r the same jackholes who thought AC was going to whoop are asses in the MXDN.
8/22/2008 6:54am
Jefro98 wrote:
Nope, because we all agree with him in Europe. That's why he's here.
Are you sure ???

Laughing
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vet954 wrote:
The team that wins the event will make you look like a dick. Again.

Don't you have moto boards to go fishing on over there?
Jefro98 wrote:
Nope, because we all agree with him in Europe. That's why he's here.
al8 wrote:
You'r the same jackholes who thought AC was going to whoop are asses in the MXDN.
He did, only not in the last one.
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Which team won the MXDN that year?Woohoo
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Europe! all 3 motos!
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Now you're changing to teams, We were talking about riders kicking asses of other riders.
But it's all good mate, it's been fun. Gotta go now.
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8/22/2008 7:05am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:08pm
It's not really about who beats who head to head. It's about where they finish in each moto.


I'm seeing 1-1-2-2-?-? (3-4 perhaps?) for the USA team.
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8/22/2008 7:05am
I am 95% positve Ferry crashed that moto.
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8/22/2008 7:12am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:08pm
al8 wrote:
You'r the same jackholes who thought AC was going to whoop are asses in the MXDN.
If there are 3 riders in the world who have the speed to challenge RV it will be.
AC
BT
CP


OK I forgot Dungey he stept it up to.
So why judge him for 1 bad race. having a bad day happens to the best. look at JS in the SX series this year. He had bad days.
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Jefro98 wrote:
Nope, because we all agree with him in Europe. That's why he's here.
al8 wrote:
You'r the same jackholes who thought AC was going to whoop are asses in the MXDN.
Jefro98 wrote:
He did, only not in the last one.
RV got beat one moto which he ran off the track. He beat AC for the overall and smoked him in the qualifying race. If you look at the record counting last year and the qualifying race it is
5 ass whoopings and a win for AC with an Asterick.
Stewart smoked Everts in the qualifying race
moto 1 he ran into Everts back day so I don't know who would have won that.
moto 2 Everts spanked Stewart.
Everts and Stewart both beat RV when they raced him. RV beat RC at the desnations.
RC smoked Everts everytime except the time RC was on a 125 in the mud and Bubba outdoors. Bubba beat RC indoors the majority of the time.
David knight beat Everts in that Beach race(I forget the name)
I beat my woods racing buddy who fixes his bike to look like David Knight's on MX Unleashed and the A.I. RV and Bubba. Just thought I would clear up who is the fastest.
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bogdan912 wrote:
I am pretty sure I saw Ferry crash last year at MXON and still catch and pass Ramon who was 2nd or 3rd...
Americans are fast in America, Europeans are fast in europe. Remember that one please.

Geoff
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8/22/2008 8:29am
Agreed, I do however think Ferry has MX3 covered.
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mxgeoff wrote:
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and...
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and two from the Lite class. Who will finish where.

Stewart versus Philippaerts = Stewart
Ferry versus Ramon = Ramon
Byrne versus Coppins = Coppins
Cooper versus De Dycker or Baragan = De Dycker

Villopoto versus Rattray = Villopoto
Metcalfe versus Simpson = Simpson

FIM wins hands down, hahahaha. Or I look like a dick again.

Geoff
Happy Friday Geoff.

btw, isn't Simpson just out of collarbone surgery? Do you thing he can really beat Metty?
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mxgeoff wrote:
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and...
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and two from the Lite class. Who will finish where.

Stewart versus Philippaerts = Stewart
Ferry versus Ramon = Ramon
Byrne versus Coppins = Coppins
Cooper versus De Dycker or Baragan = De Dycker

Villopoto versus Rattray = Villopoto
Metcalfe versus Simpson = Simpson

FIM wins hands down, hahahaha. Or I look like a dick again.

Geoff
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Happy Friday Geoff.

btw, isn't Simpson just out of collarbone surgery? Do you thing he can really beat Metty?
I have to be honest I never rated Metty. Great kid, nice family, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he can beat Simpson. If Simpson isn't fit, then Aubin will have more than enough to beat Metty.

Just a bit of fun, glad to see nobody is taking this too seriously.

Geoff
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so RV crashing makes AC have an asterisk, but the 3 other races where AC crashed in each race doesn't give RV one??

Well obviously it shouldn't.... the whole asterisk thing for crashing is ridiculous... crashing is part of racing.

so don't give AC one if you aren't going to give RV one. It's 3-1 RV against AC... nothing more, nothing less.
just like it's Everts 2 - 0 Stewart

i think MX3 will be a VERY interesting class with Ferry, Simpson, Ramon and Metcalfe as i think Ramon and Simpson have improved this year... whether they have improved enough to run the same level of ferry is something that'll be decided in 5 weeks time
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8/22/2008 8:52am
Simpson really turned things up this year I think he and Izzi would be a good matchup once Izzi gets some fitness.
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mxgeoff wrote:
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and...
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and two from the Lite class. Who will finish where.

Stewart versus Philippaerts = Stewart
Ferry versus Ramon = Ramon
Byrne versus Coppins = Coppins
Cooper versus De Dycker or Baragan = De Dycker

Villopoto versus Rattray = Villopoto
Metcalfe versus Simpson = Simpson

FIM wins hands down, hahahaha. Or I look like a dick again.

Geoff
You really have a hard on for the "Us vs Them" stuff eh?

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ayearinmx wrote:
so RV crashing makes AC have an asterisk, but the 3 other races where AC crashed in each race doesn't give RV one?? Well obviously it...
so RV crashing makes AC have an asterisk, but the 3 other races where AC crashed in each race doesn't give RV one??

Well obviously it shouldn't.... the whole asterisk thing for crashing is ridiculous... crashing is part of racing.

so don't give AC one if you aren't going to give RV one. It's 3-1 RV against AC... nothing more, nothing less.
just like it's Everts 2 - 0 Stewart

i think MX3 will be a VERY interesting class with Ferry, Simpson, Ramon and Metcalfe as i think Ramon and Simpson have improved this year... whether they have improved enough to run the same level of ferry is something that'll be decided in 5 weeks time
The qualifying races may not be the des nations but they are races and Stewart beat Everts and Villopoto beat AC. So 2-1 for everts and 5-1 for RV.
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8/22/2008 9:31am
mxgeoff wrote:
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and...
Ok, so we have a good mix of AMA riders racing at the Motocross of Nations. Four from the top five in the 450cc class and two from the Lite class. Who will finish where.

Stewart versus Philippaerts = Stewart
Ferry versus Ramon = Ramon
Byrne versus Coppins = Coppins
Cooper versus De Dycker or Baragan = De Dycker

Villopoto versus Rattray = Villopoto
Metcalfe versus Simpson = Simpson

FIM wins hands down, hahahaha. Or I look like a dick again.

Geoff
Shenzi wrote:
Happy Friday Geoff.

btw, isn't Simpson just out of collarbone surgery? Do you thing he can really beat Metty?
mxgeoff wrote:
I have to be honest I never rated Metty. Great kid, nice family, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he can beat Simpson...
I have to be honest I never rated Metty. Great kid, nice family, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he can beat Simpson. If Simpson isn't fit, then Aubin will have more than enough to beat Metty.

Just a bit of fun, glad to see nobody is taking this too seriously.

Geoff
Geoff, the MXdN is an outdated event,

1) It is irrelevant both from a racing and business stand point. Motocross is an individual sport and it exists mostly to promote the sales of manufacturers' products (bikes, fuel and gear), hence the effort of a national team is irrelevant to the 2 key drivers of our sport.
2) The internationalization of the sport. Nowadays professional motocross is a very international sport as there are several series in which pros from any country can race against each other. It is a great idea to support international one-event series where amateur riders from different countries can compete against each other, but at professional level there is not need for this type of events anymore.
3) The results of the MXdN do not mean anything. Because of its population and size of the off road market, the US have the best chance to field competitive teams and random events such as an engine failure or a major crash at the first turn can jeopardize any team's performance. In light of last year MXdN, when Chile finished 18th and Australia finished 20th, should we consider Chile a country with a stronger motocross school/ industry than Australia?

Suggest to Mr. Luongo to re establish the "Masters of Motocross". He and DC should cooperate to have an event featuring the best 2 riders for manufacturer in each class in each major series [US supercross+ nationals (so that you incentive riders to ride both classes) and World Championship] and 1 rider per manufacturer in each class racing the Australia/ New Zealand series and the Japan series. One year the race is held in Europe, one in year in the US. Add a significant purse and you have THE MX EVENT.
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8/22/2008 9:34am
ummm.... does Stewart count his qualifying races for his SX victories?? Could you then please dig up RC's qualifying race wins, and then add it onto his Nationals total?? He must be waaaaaay over 200

i can't believe you are serious... lol

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8/22/2008 10:04am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:08pm
O'Geesh, look at these third worlders trying to figure out a way to call themselves winners.
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JK, Smile
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8/22/2008 10:11am
Geoff, there's a reason they run all the races...so that the racers can settle it all on the track. Our babble from the sidelines? Meaningless.

But thanks for trying to get our guys fired up. Smile

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