Who has used/tried PED'S-

Collin_Beverly 6/8/2013 5:40am
6/8/2013 5:40am
Watch a really good documentary called Bigger, Stronger, Faster. It will really open your eyes on taking steroids/testosterone and how if taking in correct dosages there little health risk. The problem is meatheads see results from doing the correct dosage and then go crazy because they want to get huge.
UpTiTe 6/8/2013 5:56am
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I have tried a few of the adderall type pills used to treat ADD/ADHD to see what the big deal was about. Literally everything I tried...
I have tried a few of the adderall type pills used to treat ADD/ADHD to see what the big deal was about. Literally everything I tried to do under the influence of them I did better. Never used it to enhance my performance in MX but based on my previous experiments I'm certain that there would be a benefit.
I've heard about a few top guys taking this so they can stay focused during races. I have also heard that there has been a lot of Nascar drivers suddenly being diagnosed with ADD. I had a freind who was pro pither for 3 or 4 years and he said MLB is full of pitchers taking it, but its all leagal
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cpj36 6/8/2013 6:31am
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Adderall rocks, its F'n great at the track. I was taking provigil too & don't think I even noticed but I'm sure that was due to comparing it to amphetamine. I'm about to try test prop / Bill Roberts 2 wk cycles, in hopes of avoiding all the sides that come with longer cycles. I just like a little boost, not interested in becoming a meat head.
Marc_Honda 6/8/2013 6:32am
6/8/2013 6:32am
EPO

Dianabol is used for size and strength gains, most size and strength is lost unless you have good PCT but IMO the gains from dianabol and test are a waste of time for mx.
You could probably pick a 450 up and throw it but after 1 lap gassed out.

Maybe you could use steroids to gain some strength and size for mx but definitely some top riders use EPO and doping.

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ratonmacias 6/8/2013 7:23am
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I ride too little and just for fun. i dont dope and i would only think about doping if i was all clean and top 20 on a major series.

two close friends of mine rode pro road cycling in spain during the 90's and what they talk about is amazing.
TripleFive 6/8/2013 7:53am
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TripleFive wrote:
I have tried a few of the adderall type pills used to treat ADD/ADHD to see what the big deal was about. Literally everything I tried...
I have tried a few of the adderall type pills used to treat ADD/ADHD to see what the big deal was about. Literally everything I tried to do under the influence of them I did better. Never used it to enhance my performance in MX but based on my previous experiments I'm certain that there would be a benefit.
UpTiTe wrote:
I've heard about a few top guys taking this so they can stay focused during races. I have also heard that there has been a lot...
I've heard about a few top guys taking this so they can stay focused during races. I have also heard that there has been a lot of Nascar drivers suddenly being diagnosed with ADD. I had a freind who was pro pither for 3 or 4 years and he said MLB is full of pitchers taking it, but its all leagal
Apparently amphetamines are super prevalent in the NFL as well but they kept pretty quiet because they are prescribed to treat a "disability."
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TripleFive 6/8/2013 9:00am
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There is an objective advantage to be gained with viagra, I would just feel super vulnerable racing with a stiff 2x4 in my pants.
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FLmxer 6/8/2013 9:09am
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I always was curious. My high school was undefeated in football and the coach was actually getting the top players roids but I declined and it was big in my area. The cops were busted years ago distributing them to each other. Every cop in our town used to look like they were going to pop, I mean huge. The funny thing was I could still out run and lift about all of the kids at about 170 lbs. I was the only kid in my school who surfed, water skied/wakeboarded and raced moto every week so I was in peak condition and the coach would use me as an example that you don't have to be huge to have strength and endurance. I was on the wall of fame for benching 315 in 10th grade and could out pull the biggest guys in sleds, I was a maniac about training. I think my mind just wanted to be stronger and faster than everyone so every step I took and every chore I did I made it work me and never took the easy way for anything. Even today I do things the harder way sometimes for that extra little help and at 40 when I go with friends who play tennis, basketball and other sports, I play the whole time while guys switch out to rest over and over and wonder how I have so much energy. Yet they still want to question how physical moto is even though I say but I can only do 4 laps at pace on my bike. lol
Motivation is always the one factor that I want to keep strong and gets harder every day.
My two best friends are on the juice hard the last bunch of years and those guys were the most passive non aggressive guys ever, non confrontational and just real softies. now those guys don't even talk and basically throw fits many times a day over nothing and are way different. I mean ragers. I 100 percent believe that the roids made them assholes to the max and so do they actually.
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mt798 6/8/2013 9:09am
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Growboxracers wrote:
I have used steroids,dont do it. It cost me my marriage, raised my blood pressure and pretty much turned me into an overall asshole. Not worth...
I have used steroids,dont do it. It cost me my marriage, raised my blood pressure and pretty much turned me into an overall asshole. Not worth it, you gotta be a spode to use juice, especially on the amateur level. Train harder, eat better and sleep more, screw the juice do it the right way. Follow these tips and you can still get in excellent shape, trust me. Shit Im 44 and have been juice free for six years and I still have good size.The past two months I have been refocusing my training to cardio for mx, losing a little pump/size but I gotta be able to ride strong for 20 lol!

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Shit makes yer hair fall out too!
panic revver 6/8/2013 9:42am
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bvm111 wrote:
wow... after 30 try some testosterone, cycleled correctly for ester length and half life it is amazing!!! you dont just instantly turn into arnold and it...
wow... after 30 try some testosterone, cycleled correctly for ester length and half life it is amazing!!! you dont just instantly turn into arnold and it does nothing without proper diet and excercise and proper post cycle... it just makes you feel like you are young again!!!

i for the life of me done understand what the big deal is... i have never had any BP, liver, or kidney issues... ever!!!

and if you think you can take a "natural" test booster like tribulus terrestis and have the same effect you are completly retarded!!!! go talk to a doctor... if test was bad why can you with a prescription go down to your local CVS and pick up 10ml of test???

why is it if you use it in other ways (cancer, AIDS) its a miracle but if you take it to feel better due to lower than normal test levels you are some sort of monster???

get over it, nothing you take without proper training does anything, nieve people still think you stick a needle in your leg and youre a MX champion... come on really? oh and it doesnt turn you into an ass hole and make you loose your wife.... then every 13 year old boy would be "roid raging" since their serum test levels are more than double that of what you can achieve with synthetic test.
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Some valid points, others not so much. Site your sources, roid rage exists, believe me. Site your source for your 13 year old boy theory, its...
Some valid points, others not so much. Site your sources, roid rage exists, believe me. Site your source for your 13 year old boy theory, its crap.
Never taken the stuff but know plenty who have. They all say that if you were an asshole before you will just be a bigger asshole on roids.
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BobbyM 6/8/2013 9:51am
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eropkin wrote:
And would be willing to talk about it?
PED...never, PEG is another story.
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I recently started a regimen consisting of Old Milwaukee and Twinkies. My lap times and endurance have never been better.
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edgo897 6/8/2013 12:18pm
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Omeprazole. Riding with heartburn will slow your lap times.
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BobbyM 6/8/2013 12:19pm
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TripleFive wrote:
I have tried a few of the adderall type pills used to treat ADD/ADHD to see what the big deal was about. Literally everything I tried...
I have tried a few of the adderall type pills used to treat ADD/ADHD to see what the big deal was about. Literally everything I tried to do under the influence of them I did better. Never used it to enhance my performance in MX but based on my previous experiments I'm certain that there would be a benefit.
UpTiTe wrote:
I've heard about a few top guys taking this so they can stay focused during races. I have also heard that there has been a lot...
I've heard about a few top guys taking this so they can stay focused during races. I have also heard that there has been a lot of Nascar drivers suddenly being diagnosed with ADD. I had a freind who was pro pither for 3 or 4 years and he said MLB is full of pitchers taking it, but its all leagal
Adderall...xmas-trees, black beauties, crank, speed, meth, ice, benes. it's ALL the same. used and not abused and you would probably kick some ass.

one thing though out of all this. if you can't ride a dirt bike as fast as the top 3 like RV, RD or whoever for at least one of two laps why waste yer time? ain't nothing out there that can fix that...nothing. so why waster yer time with the other shit?
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Xtreme1 6/8/2013 1:40pm
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I've used Testosterone Cypionate/injectable cycled with Semorelin/GHRP-6 and HCG-Human Chorionic Gonadotropin with good results, but I'm older. I have also used Provigil 200 mg. which is used widely in the military. They have a new version out now, Nuvigil which is supposed to be longer acting. I couldn't really tell much difference. They work very well and I could see them being of benefit in moto.
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mototrader 6/8/2013 10:43pm
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unless you really have ADD/ADHD adderall is like coke and makes everything faster, so i doubt it would make any of you ride better..but if you have the imbalance in your brain it really does make you calm and slows things down.

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chrisbuehler 6/8/2013 11:01pm
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panic revver wrote:
Never taken the stuff but know plenty who have. They all say that if you were an asshole before you will just be a bigger asshole...
Never taken the stuff but know plenty who have. They all say that if you were an asshole before you will just be a bigger asshole on roids.
Absolutely. They don't make a nice easy going guy "rage." If you are a dick, they make you are bigger dick.
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chaseodc 6/9/2013 4:11am
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eropkin wrote:
And would be willing to talk about it?
Take some time and watch this....
Apply what is said to moto. In my opinion from what I understand of EPO, it would be the only thing used during the season. Everything else would be used off season to make gains and then tapered off before the season starts. Remember Ped's are not a replacement for hard work. You will just see slightly more results from the work you put in.

Love him or hate him Victor knows his PED's and Rogan asks all the right questions.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0
jeff.cohen.923 6/9/2013 6:19am
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for me when i cycled just andro before it was illegal ten years ago it made me stronger but super depressed, i couldnt sleep which wouldl kill u in moto and i had mini panic attacks just like it was hard to breath or my chest got tight. it did make me stronger i put up alot more weight but it was not worth the side affects so i stop it early. peds is probably the dumbest thing you could ever do for moto at our level. at our level if u are not as fast as you want to be either your not riding enough during the week and training or you are as fast as you will be. there is a reason they are pros and we arent. you cant just take a pill or shot and all of a sudden be twice as fast
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eropkin 6/9/2013 8:06am
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eropkin wrote:
And would be willing to talk about it?
chaseodc wrote:
Take some time and watch this.... [url=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0] [/url] Apply what is said to moto. In my opinion from what I understand of EPO, it would be...
Take some time and watch this....
Apply what is said to moto. In my opinion from what I understand of EPO, it would be the only thing used during the season. Everything else would be used off season to make gains and then tapered off before the season starts. Remember Ped's are not a replacement for hard work. You will just see slightly more results from the work you put in.

Love him or hate him Victor knows his PED's and Rogan asks all the right questions.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0
That link doesn't seem to be working for me... I really would like to see it.. please relink for me, or tell me what to search for...
Found it...Thanks...
UpTiTe 6/9/2013 9:09am
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eropkin wrote:
And would be willing to talk about it?
chaseodc wrote:
Take some time and watch this.... [url=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0] [/url] Apply what is said to moto. In my opinion from what I understand of EPO, it would be...
Take some time and watch this....
Apply what is said to moto. In my opinion from what I understand of EPO, it would be the only thing used during the season. Everything else would be used off season to make gains and then tapered off before the season starts. Remember Ped's are not a replacement for hard work. You will just see slightly more results from the work you put in.

Love him or hate him Victor knows his PED's and Rogan asks all the right questions.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0
About 100% correct. They do most of their cycling in the off season, but they do take stuff during the season to help their bodies rehab faster from racing, traveling and training.

And yes, PEDs are no replacement for hard work, you still have to put in the time.
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chaseodc 6/9/2013 10:09am
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eropkin wrote:
And would be willing to talk about it?
chaseodc wrote:
Take some time and watch this.... [url=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0] [/url] Apply what is said to moto. In my opinion from what I understand of EPO, it would be...
Take some time and watch this....
Apply what is said to moto. In my opinion from what I understand of EPO, it would be the only thing used during the season. Everything else would be used off season to make gains and then tapered off before the season starts. Remember Ped's are not a replacement for hard work. You will just see slightly more results from the work you put in.

Love him or hate him Victor knows his PED's and Rogan asks all the right questions.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0
eropkin wrote:
That link doesn't seem to be working for me... I really would like to see it.. please relink for me, or tell me what to search...
That link doesn't seem to be working for me... I really would like to see it.. please relink for me, or tell me what to search for...
Found it...Thanks...
Just search Joe Rogan Victor Contie... Sorry I still hold rookie status on here...
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eropkin 6/9/2013 10:17am
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Yeah.. I found it... Good info..I am on what seems like hour 3 of the podcast
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I don't know if just taking testosterone alone is really much of an improvement. If your levels are already normal and on the higher end such as when your younger like most motocross pros are then it will just shoot them to too high levels and probably have negative consequences.

When you get into pro-athlete type PEDS such as in baseball they are on some really cocktail stuff that is tailored to them.
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RUTCITY 6/9/2013 2:49pm
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Legitimately informative and cautionary thread.

Carry on please

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