22 Motorsports Team Future

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I am asking a question here, not making a statement. What do you guys think the future holds for this team? I know anything posted here is guessing and speculation, just wondering what your thoughts are though. From my un-trained eye he has been riding at 70% since getting his knee worked on. He hasn't seemed to do well on the Honda this year and from what I have read, his relationship with Honda isn't rosey.

My guess is he will sunset his career with Yamaha next year, back hungry and healthy and refreshed with a new bike, I am sticking to that. BUT, I am more wondering what you guys think beyond 2014. We all know that motocross teams are not profitable and take a lot of time and dedication. Does Chad just sit there and spend his savings funding an empty bucket after retirement?
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5/5/2013 10:53am
My guess would be that he is a successful Guy and he will be successfulin in running a team and anything else he decides to ..do so i guess 22 is here to stay and will hire good riders and land big sponsors , unless he chooses otherwise.

but i cant see him riding much longer , and as a huge fan that was one of my main reasons in going to a SX in person this year and going to an autograph signing at bob cycle supply in minnesota , because im guessing my chances to watch him race are dwindling .. im not bagging on him tho he has had an awsome career and if he hung it up know he still is awsome!

That being said i hope im wrong and he finds rejuvination like he has in the past , and millsaps did this year and k dub did a few years ago..
5/5/2013 12:18pm
He should hire Weston Peick for the nats. Should be cheap and just proved to the boss that he's legit.
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5/5/2013 12:22pm
Looks to me that Reedy is over it right now. Hopefully he gets his mojo back.
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5/5/2013 12:48pm
DL wrote:
Looks to me that Reedy is over it right now. Hopefully he gets his mojo back.
Looked like it yesterday

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5/5/2013 1:34pm
He will hire Dean Wilson when he decides to give it up.. Him and Dean are pretty tight. I think reedy will bring his "A" game with him to hangtown.
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5/5/2013 3:19pm
But will he keep the team going when he retires if there isn't any profit as a team owner? He would have to be pretty wealthy to own and maintain a team as a hobby really.
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5/5/2013 4:04pm
With the speculation that he wants to eventually go race cars, what are the chances that he would undertake both car racer and MX team owner ?? Or would team 22 have to fold so he could pursue the car racing career ??
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5/5/2013 4:07pm
KMC440 wrote:
Too old...just say'n I won't say that he won't get a ride but like RC he doesn't have the seat time.
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5/5/2013 4:35pm
Ozzy reads this board so maybe he can chime in
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5/5/2013 4:46pm Edited Date/Time 5/5/2013 4:48pm
I think he'll bring his A game to the outdoors, but I have a feeling he is done with SX. Based on nothing other than a gut feeling. The next generation has caught up and I don't think he's the type to keep racing unless he's a threat to win. I think how the outdoor season goes could determine whether he decides to retire. Great career!
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5/5/2013 5:51pm
JeepnMike wrote:
I am asking a question here, not making a statement. What do you guys think the future holds for this team? I know anything posted here...
I am asking a question here, not making a statement. What do you guys think the future holds for this team? I know anything posted here is guessing and speculation, just wondering what your thoughts are though. From my un-trained eye he has been riding at 70% since getting his knee worked on. He hasn't seemed to do well on the Honda this year and from what I have read, his relationship with Honda isn't rosey.

My guess is he will sunset his career with Yamaha next year, back hungry and healthy and refreshed with a new bike, I am sticking to that. BUT, I am more wondering what you guys think beyond 2014. We all know that motocross teams are not profitable and take a lot of time and dedication. Does Chad just sit there and spend his savings funding an empty bucket after retirement?
my guess is that the Mayan calendar is bullshit.
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5/5/2013 6:16pm
I think threads like this are dumb..he's only got the best crew and spent all the money to get the team going
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5/5/2013 9:05pm
JBods wrote:
I think threads like this are dumb..he's only got the best crew and spent all the money to get the team going
So in your intelligent opinion would it be wise for Chad to fund his team after retirement if it isn't profitable?
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5/5/2013 9:47pm
Be a new rejuvenated Reed at the 1st national in 2 weeks
5/5/2013 10:11pm
Reed seems like a smart guy. Owning a team after he's retired seems like a dumb maneuver.

I can see Reed and TwoTwo closing the curtains after outdoors.
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5/5/2013 11:00pm
TripleFive wrote:
Reed seems like a smart guy. Owning a team after he's retired seems like a dumb maneuver. I can see Reed and TwoTwo closing the curtains...
Reed seems like a smart guy. Owning a team after he's retired seems like a dumb maneuver.

I can see Reed and TwoTwo closing the curtains after outdoors.
With privateer teams dropping out like flies (or horribly struggling), I am kind of thinking the same thing. I don't know Chad, he doesn't call me at home, but he does seem like a smart guy (and with a dab of pride). I would much rather see him take the $ he has and enjoy his family and kiddo after motocross.

It would be cool if MX team ownership was a smart business and his move to create his own team was great timing with lots of financial benefits, but I believe the timing is quite opposite. I am a realist, I apologize if what I am discussing is construed as negative.

BTW, happy birthday Tate!
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5/5/2013 11:24pm Edited Date/Time 5/5/2013 11:28pm
JeepnMike wrote:
But will he keep the team going when he retires if there isn't any profit as a team owner? He would have to be pretty wealthy...
But will he keep the team going when he retires if there isn't any profit as a team owner? He would have to be pretty wealthy to own and maintain a team as a hobby really.
Pretty wealthy? This will give a clue.

8.5M in 2011. And he claims his investments are doing well. Those kind of numbers add up over a long career like Chad's.
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5/5/2013 11:39pm
Reeds gonna have to decide if he wants to continue at all. It will have to be one of two ways. Team owner/rider or team owner with a rider or riders.
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5/6/2013 12:36am
Is owing a team after retirement a dumb idea?

So does that make RC and Carey dumb. I would assume that a man that has put his own money where his mouth is a true a sign of a guy with massive nuts or potential to be even better off.

He has earnt what he has and I wish him well in whatever endevour he takes.

Could he afford wilson on his team?
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5/6/2013 4:42am
I wonder if the stress of the legal dispute over his practice track and cart track is affecting his racing.

I'm not saying he lies in bed at night worrying about it, but it's just one more thing to distract him from riding and training.
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5/6/2013 4:47am
Reed is no dummy-

He has been building a brand with his race team for the past few years; a merchandise brand. Once he gets a second rider and retires, everything will be fine for him. There is no reason that motocross teams can't be successful; the ones that aren't do a shitty job building their brands and/or overextend their resources on many bikes and riders.

Additionally, while Reed may be no spring chicken anymore, he has been battling knee issues and is likely not able to train like he normally would. Even if Reed is "only" a top 5 guy now with the emergence of all the recent depth in the 450 class, his brand is still strong as one of the last "old guys" in the class.

Some could say that Stewart is also an "old guy" of the 450 class, but Stewart hardly has a brand. Stewart is also trying to start a brand with his clothing line.

Bottom line is that Reed is building a much stronger brand for his future than RC, MC, Emig, Windham, etc. Reed is going to reap the same benefits after his career that these guys have (TV gigs, riding schools, etc) AND he will have his 22 brand to go with it.
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5/6/2013 7:46am
zookie wrote:
Reed is no dummy- He has been building a brand with his race team for the past few years; a merchandise brand. Once he gets a...
Reed is no dummy-

He has been building a brand with his race team for the past few years; a merchandise brand. Once he gets a second rider and retires, everything will be fine for him. There is no reason that motocross teams can't be successful; the ones that aren't do a shitty job building their brands and/or overextend their resources on many bikes and riders.

Additionally, while Reed may be no spring chicken anymore, he has been battling knee issues and is likely not able to train like he normally would. Even if Reed is "only" a top 5 guy now with the emergence of all the recent depth in the 450 class, his brand is still strong as one of the last "old guys" in the class.

Some could say that Stewart is also an "old guy" of the 450 class, but Stewart hardly has a brand. Stewart is also trying to start a brand with his clothing line.

Bottom line is that Reed is building a much stronger brand for his future than RC, MC, Emig, Windham, etc. Reed is going to reap the same benefits after his career that these guys have (TV gigs, riding schools, etc) AND he will have his 22 brand to go with it.
I Agree , and with more time if not riding and Training , i could see him landing some big new outside sponsors..
i tend to think guys like him and Rc and a few others could get more big sponsors than even they think , if they were to get personally involved in doing so.. Or should i say more personally involved Smile
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5/6/2013 8:00am
Reed should pick up Tommy Hahn... That is if Honda would give him another damn bike.
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5/6/2013 8:14am
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Reed should pick up Tommy Hahn... That is if Honda would give him another damn bike.
Who would his replacement rider be?
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5/6/2013 9:35am
JBods wrote:
I think threads like this are dumb..he's only got the best crew and spent all the money to get the team going
JeepnMike wrote:
So in your intelligent opinion would it be wise for Chad to fund his team after retirement if it isn't profitable?
I don't think any team is profitable, but he clearly loves the sport and IMO he will run it until he has to pay for someone else to race. People like goose left safe job offers from ktm there must be something there, I know a guy like goose won't have trouble finding a job but there's more than him.
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5/6/2013 10:03am
Why do some of you guys think he is going to be refreshed and come out firing at Hangtown? Hes riding the same Airforked Honda with no front-end feel.

I say either he switchs to a brand next year that he can make the front end work or he folds the team. Can he bring in anybody else that will draw sponsership money better than himself? Dean Wilson couldnt bring in any money for Team Jeff Ward.
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He's not happy with the bike and he has knee issues. He'll be back at the front on a new bike and healthy program in 2014. IMO.
5/6/2013 10:22am
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Why do some of you guys think he is going to be refreshed and come out firing at Hangtown? Hes riding the same Airforked Honda with...
Why do some of you guys think he is going to be refreshed and come out firing at Hangtown? Hes riding the same Airforked Honda with no front-end feel.

I say either he switchs to a brand next year that he can make the front end work or he folds the team. Can he bring in anybody else that will draw sponsership money better than himself? Dean Wilson couldnt bring in any money for Team Jeff Ward.
Try to keep up Sanberm, he switched back to the alloy springs about 5 rounds ago. No SFF Air for Reedy at this point.

But don't worry, I'll let him know at Hangtown that you said his problem is the airforks and the fact that his bike has no front end feel. Thanks for the tip Laughing

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5/6/2013 10:43am
Sandberm wrote:
Why do some of you guys think he is going to be refreshed and come out firing at Hangtown? Hes riding the same Airforked Honda with...
Why do some of you guys think he is going to be refreshed and come out firing at Hangtown? Hes riding the same Airforked Honda with no front-end feel.

I say either he switchs to a brand next year that he can make the front end work or he folds the team. Can he bring in anybody else that will draw sponsership money better than himself? Dean Wilson couldnt bring in any money for Team Jeff Ward.
TriRacer27 wrote:
Try to keep up Sanberm, he switched back to the alloy springs about 5 rounds ago. No SFF Air for Reedy at this point. But don't...
Try to keep up Sanberm, he switched back to the alloy springs about 5 rounds ago. No SFF Air for Reedy at this point.

But don't worry, I'll let him know at Hangtown that you said his problem is the airforks and the fact that his bike has no front end feel. Thanks for the tip Laughing

So your saying that he is happy with his bike setup and has the frontend feel that he likes?

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