Marty Smith works "replica"

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Edited Date/Time 4/15/2013 8:31am
Is it a works replica when you use a real works bike to begin with? Laughing

Rest easy though, no history was destroyed in the build. Any original parts that came off the bike were retained and it can be put back as original in under an hour. So much trickness in the old works Honda's.









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pete24 4/10/2013 9:30am
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are you going to ride it?
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vet323 4/10/2013 9:35am
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Sorry to over-share, but I am fully tumescent right now.


Great bike!
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TX24 4/10/2013 9:39am
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Great idea. Smith was the first pro mxer I ever new of.
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newmann 4/10/2013 11:04am
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pete24 wrote:
are you going to ride it?
Not mine to ride, just acquired it and built it for a customer. I do however have another one, an identical 78 RC500 that I stumbled across in the process of locating this one. I had to have a little fire sale of sorts to scrape up the cash to buy it but sometimes it has to be done! It will be prepped so that it can be ridden.Smile

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supergreg 4/10/2013 11:17am
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What kind of bolts are on the case covers?
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pete24 wrote:
are you going to ride it?
newmann wrote:
Not mine to ride, just acquired it and built it for a customer. I do however have another one, an identical 78 RC500 that I stumbled...
Not mine to ride, just acquired it and built it for a customer. I do however have another one, an identical 78 RC500 that I stumbled across in the process of locating this one. I had to have a little fire sale of sorts to scrape up the cash to buy it but sometimes it has to be done! It will be prepped so that it can be ridden.Smile

i saw the stuff hubbard acquired from u so u could finnace the other bike, he rides all his stuff and i figure u ride yours, i dont ride my old yamahas cuz they suk as bad now as they did then, im jealous of you honda guys
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Hubbard is a sick individual and I'm an enabler.....Laughing
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newmann wrote:
Hubbard is a sick individual and I'm an enabler.....Laughing
And for that I thank you sir! Lol.

The RC's look amazing Joe, what does it feel like to have not one but TWO RC five hundo's in your garage?!
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newmann 4/10/2013 11:49am
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supergreg wrote:
What kind of bolts are on the case covers?
That is the style of ti screw that Honda used on a lot of their works stuff. Not sure if there is a specific name for it or if there is a specific tool (other than a flat blade) to remove and install it. Trick bits everywhere on those bikes.

The brake backing plates are special cast magnesium parts, the rear does not use a brake stay arm. The levers are drilled as are the actuating cams


The actuating cams and the opposing pivot pin are not only drilled for lightness but are titanium. The axle bushing through the mag plate is also ti.


Hubs are magnesium with steel rings around the inner bearing ares to reinforce them. Brake drum liners are machined steel held in with rivets front and screws rear.


The small diameter side of the mag hub uses a steel retainer ring to reinforce the lightweight hubs. Details everywhere.
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supergreg wrote:
What kind of bolts are on the case covers?
newmann wrote:
That is the style of ti screw that Honda used on a lot of their works stuff. Not sure if there is a specific name for...
That is the style of ti screw that Honda used on a lot of their works stuff. Not sure if there is a specific name for it or if there is a specific tool (other than a flat blade) to remove and install it. Trick bits everywhere on those bikes.

The brake backing plates are special cast magnesium parts, the rear does not use a brake stay arm. The levers are drilled as are the actuating cams


The actuating cams and the opposing pivot pin are not only drilled for lightness but are titanium. The axle bushing through the mag plate is also ti.


Hubs are magnesium with steel rings around the inner bearing ares to reinforce them. Brake drum liners are machined steel held in with rivets front and screws rear.


The small diameter side of the mag hub uses a steel retainer ring to reinforce the lightweight hubs. Details everywhere.
Newman, think there was a factory gear shifter on swap meet for sale about a week ago for that.
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Arkmx 4/10/2013 12:52pm
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Great looking bike Newman!

Can I ride it? Have my permission slip from GuyB.... Smile

Keep up the awesome work!!

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Newman,
I have something you might just be interested in. I have a bunch of really nice Ti fasteners. Some of them are those very same screws on the case covers as pictured, also some dished 6mm and 8mm flanged bolts,10mm flanged nuts, some 6 mm flanged bolts that have a machined recess in the center of the hex head as well as the threaded end. The surfaces of them show the tooling marks from when they were machined.
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AzTrooper wrote:
Newman, I have something you might just be interested in. I have a bunch of really nice Ti fasteners. Some of them are those very same...
Newman,
I have something you might just be interested in. I have a bunch of really nice Ti fasteners. Some of them are those very same screws on the case covers as pictured, also some dished 6mm and 8mm flanged bolts,10mm flanged nuts, some 6 mm flanged bolts that have a machined recess in the center of the hex head as well as the threaded end. The surfaces of them show the tooling marks from when they were machined.
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Email me at newmann@gt.rr.com . Sounds like something I could find a use for. Laughing Thanks.
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The 78 RC used a square front downtube and backbone. Formed from a sheet of metal with a welded seam down one side . The top frame tube about 6-8 inches from the rear tapers down on the top. Scratching my head as to how that was done by hand, but all the hammer marks from one end to the other suggests that these were hand formed over a mandrel or something. Lots of time and effort went into these.



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supergreg 4/11/2013 11:07am
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N, how much do they weigh? I use tinkering on my 86CR250R as a form of psychotherapySmile braaap!
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EastFlorida 4/11/2013 11:30am
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Maybe a stupid question, but how are they to ride? Power, handling, suspension, etc.? I presume they were the best machines in their day, so I was just curious... I imagine they are too rare/valuable to actually ride today to compare how far the sport has come...
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Words can't express how cool those are.
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newmann wrote:
The 78 RC used a square front downtube and backbone. Formed from a sheet of metal with a welded seam down one side . The top...
The 78 RC used a square front downtube and backbone. Formed from a sheet of metal with a welded seam down one side . The top frame tube about 6-8 inches from the rear tapers down on the top. Scratching my head as to how that was done by hand, but all the hammer marks from one end to the other suggests that these were hand formed over a mandrel or something. Lots of time and effort went into these.



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newmann 4/12/2013 8:47am
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I actually felt bad blasting the paint off of it and refinishing it, but it was beyond bad and no works Honda should be subjected to such neglect...Smile It looked as if it had been spray canned between races somewhere on the road back in 78. The finish was cracking, peeling and rusting underneath. It was cool to see the "patina" of the past, but it was a just a little too far gone. I just considered myself getting it ready for its next big event where it will be on display for people to enjoy. Honda used absolutely zero surface prep or primer, just enough red paint to not see the metal. Great for weight savings, but not for thirty five years of sitting around after retirement. I went with an extremely light coat of epoxy primer over the freshly blasted frame and the alumi-prepped alloy swingarm followed by two coats of single stage Glasurit urethane. Just enough to get coverage and guarantee a finish that should last indefinitely. Tried hard not to overdo anything yet detail it up as nice as possible.
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PN27416 4/15/2013 8:31am
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Outstanding job sir!

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