Is JGR leaving the sport?

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3/28/2013 8:39pm
Frank wrote:
Name 1 team that turns a profit by racing SX/MX.
CR250Rider wrote:
anyone?
Pro circuit,
3/29/2013 4:59am
mototrader wrote:
Wouldnt surprise me...they can't get a break and it doesn't hurt they're stuck with that turd of a 450......you guys can say what you want and...
Wouldnt surprise me...they can't get a break and it doesn't hurt they're stuck with that turd of a 450......you guys can say what you want and stick up for the bike but you know its bad when factory level guys won't even talk to you because of the bike (Dungey, Wilson)

They need to get off Yamahas and pick a bike that is a winner..(suzuki, honda or kawi)
Or KTM obviously! Wink
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It's the Kawasaki Monster Energy show, no other sponsors matter to who ever produces the show. They should have an RV butt cam and let Emig steer it.

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3/29/2013 5:15am Edited Date/Time 3/29/2013 5:16am
Back on topic, Smart Tops! Someone get Eddie a tub top! Get yours today!

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3/29/2013 5:53am
Frank wrote:
Name 1 team that turns a profit by racing SX/MX.
CR250Rider wrote:
anyone?
Deetsmx wrote:
Definitely a good article.

It would be good if JGR could try a different bike, before they pack up and leave. The YZF is fine to some, but it has a stigma. If JGR was able to put their riders on a Suzuki or Honda, I think they might have a little more success.
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3/29/2013 6:17am
If the main reason for JGR recent failures is due to the current YZ 450 design, wouldnt it seem kind of stupid to quit the team right before an all new design is supposed to come out for 2014?
3/29/2013 6:18am
Sounds to me like wishful thinking on Reed's part. He is banking on JGR bailing, and two-two becoming the Yamaha effort.

But, I think JGR is banking on the 2014 Yamaha being worth the wait.

The real "tell" is coming up in 1 week. The opening round of the Japanese nationals. We will see the '14 Yamaha.
3/29/2013 7:15am
If JGR can't run honda or suz because they make cars, could they run KTM?
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3/29/2013 7:25am Edited Date/Time 3/29/2013 8:59am
I certainly don't know if JGR is leaving the sport or not, but it wouldn't surprize me if they did.

My question is, were they ever truly moto?

I know they made their money from football and Nascar, but to make it in moto - you have to live and breathe moto.

If they were in it to make money, or for any other reason besides their absolute and undying love for moto, then it won't shock me when they do pack up and go home.

Maybe Coy is moto, I don't know for sure. Or maybe it was just his 'project' - since they have money to burn.

Also, coming in one day and winning a championship the next doesn't happen. If they want to win championships and reach the pinnacle of the sport, it usually takes more than a few seasons to accomplish that.

And it isn't as easy as it sounds. You can even hire the fastest man on the planet. It still doesn't guarantee you will take home a championship.

I hope they stay.
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I certainly don't know if JGR is leaving the sport or not, but it wouldn't surprize me if they did. My question is, were they ever...
I certainly don't know if JGR is leaving the sport or not, but it wouldn't surprize me if they did.

My question is, were they ever truly moto?

I know they made their money from football and Nascar, but to make it in moto - you have to live and breathe moto.

If they were in it to make money, or for any other reason besides their absolute and undying love for moto, then it won't shock me when they do pack up and go home.

Maybe Coy is moto, I don't know for sure. Or maybe it was just his 'project' - since they have money to burn.

Also, coming in one day and winning a championship the next doesn't happen. If they want to win championships and reach the pinnacle of the sport, it usually takes more than a few seasons to accomplish that.

And it isn't as easy as it sounds. You can even hire the fastest man on the planet. It still doesn't guarantee you will take home a championship.

I hope they stay.
x2.. JGR 'aint moto..

dont know why they would even be interested in the first place..
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3/29/2013 9:34am
Suzuki no longer sells cars in the US, they could move to them next year. Having said that, I think JGR leaving the sport would be a non-event and their importance is highly over rated. In spite for their money they have no proved to be any better than several other second tier teams with 1/10th the funding. If they leave, someone else will fill the vacuum, probably 22, and we will all move on.
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I certainly don't know if JGR is leaving the sport or not, but it wouldn't surprize me if they did. My question is, were they ever...
I certainly don't know if JGR is leaving the sport or not, but it wouldn't surprize me if they did.

My question is, were they ever truly moto?

I know they made their money from football and Nascar, but to make it in moto - you have to live and breathe moto.

If they were in it to make money, or for any other reason besides their absolute and undying love for moto, then it won't shock me when they do pack up and go home.

Maybe Coy is moto, I don't know for sure. Or maybe it was just his 'project' - since they have money to burn.

Also, coming in one day and winning a championship the next doesn't happen. If they want to win championships and reach the pinnacle of the sport, it usually takes more than a few seasons to accomplish that.

And it isn't as easy as it sounds. You can even hire the fastest man on the planet. It still doesn't guarantee you will take home a championship.

I hope they stay.
wydopen wrote:
x2.. JGR 'aint moto..

dont know why they would even be interested in the first place..
I'm not sure what you guys are looking for.

Perhaps a team manager that has tattoos, wears his hats with a flat bill and is "core"? Perhaps a team manager that has won 5 world champioships? Maybe you would like them to relocate to California?

For my money Jeremy Albrecht is "moto". Spending the time and money to make a trick tank/shroud combo is "moto". I believe JGR does suspension and motor mods? Thats "moto" huh?
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3/29/2013 10:09am
That is an outstanding article! Very encouraging to read that a non energy drink company (Bubba Burger)are putting significant money into a team as a sponsor. After reading the article, I really respect how that team is run. Great move for Short joining that team, it's first class.

On the JGR front, I hope they stay. They are a first class team that has been hindered by a not so great bike to work with. Look how much better Stewart and Millsaps are this year having a better bike underneath them. They have the funding to sign a top rider, but at this point it looks like no top rider wants to ride the current design blue bike.
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3/29/2013 10:36am
Choppy wrote:
What reason would they stay for? Even if you have a product that is basically a title sponsor it won't ever get mentioned on a brodcast...
What reason would they stay for? Even if you have a product that is basically a title sponsor it won't ever get mentioned on a brodcast. That and the amount of money they seemed to put in to the program hasn't exactly paid off in the results(minus DM18)

I expect MCR to go next. How many times have you heard them say Smart tops? (or whatever hot tub cover it is I wouldn't know because they've yet to say it)
I heard it several times.
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3/29/2013 1:06pm
Seeing how the sport has been dominated by RV and RD the last few years, they haven't had a shot at a top title contender. Dungey didn't pass on JGR due to the bike (solely at least). Decoster wasn't there. And RV has been on green for life. Bubba was a great sign but at the point he signed with JGR, it's arguable that he still would have wrecked and not been a title contender even if they ran Suzuki's at JGR. And I mean absolutely no disrespect to JS7.

Yall say bike, but I say rider options are slim. Not every rider can win the championship or even a race. Even the second and third place riders aren't logical additions to teams in the last few years.

And was Reed's comment saying tha JGR is about to bail on Yamaha or SX/MX in general?
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I certainly don't know if JGR is leaving the sport or not, but it wouldn't surprize me if they did. My question is, were they ever...
I certainly don't know if JGR is leaving the sport or not, but it wouldn't surprize me if they did.

My question is, were they ever truly moto?

I know they made their money from football and Nascar, but to make it in moto - you have to live and breathe moto.

If they were in it to make money, or for any other reason besides their absolute and undying love for moto, then it won't shock me when they do pack up and go home.

Maybe Coy is moto, I don't know for sure. Or maybe it was just his 'project' - since they have money to burn.

Also, coming in one day and winning a championship the next doesn't happen. If they want to win championships and reach the pinnacle of the sport, it usually takes more than a few seasons to accomplish that.

And it isn't as easy as it sounds. You can even hire the fastest man on the planet. It still doesn't guarantee you will take home a championship.

I hope they stay.
wydopen wrote:
x2.. JGR 'aint moto..

dont know why they would even be interested in the first place..
Sandberm wrote:
I'm not sure what you guys are looking for. Perhaps a team manager that has tattoos, wears his hats with a flat bill and is "core"...
I'm not sure what you guys are looking for.

Perhaps a team manager that has tattoos, wears his hats with a flat bill and is "core"? Perhaps a team manager that has won 5 world champioships? Maybe you would like them to relocate to California?

For my money Jeremy Albrecht is "moto". Spending the time and money to make a trick tank/shroud combo is "moto". I believe JGR does suspension and motor mods? Thats "moto" huh?
You are projecting a lot of questions onto me. And maybe I am speculating a bit too much on the JGR rumor.

I try to never speculate, but hey - it happens sometimes.
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3/29/2013 1:51pm
Choppy wrote: Why would you want to run a race team and deal with Feld/MxSports. Not that MxSports doesn't try, but it's about time they allow teams to really represent sponsors in the pits IMO.


Have you actually been in the pits and seen the number of displays under team awnings?
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GuyB wrote:
[quote]Choppy wrote: Why would you want to run a race team and deal with Feld/MxSports. Not that MxSports doesn't try, but it's about time they allow...
Choppy wrote: Why would you want to run a race team and deal with Feld/MxSports. Not that MxSports doesn't try, but it's about time they allow teams to really represent sponsors in the pits IMO.


Have you actually been in the pits and seen the number of displays under team awnings?
Yes.

TeamGreen and I have discussed and agree on sponsors being able to represent themselves and sell the products they make in the pits.
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3/29/2013 3:38pm
GuyB wrote:
[quote]Choppy wrote: Why would you want to run a race team and deal with Feld/MxSports. Not that MxSports doesn't try, but it's about time they allow...
Choppy wrote: Why would you want to run a race team and deal with Feld/MxSports. Not that MxSports doesn't try, but it's about time they allow teams to really represent sponsors in the pits IMO.


Have you actually been in the pits and seen the number of displays under team awnings?
Choppy wrote:
Yes.

TeamGreen and I have discussed and agree on sponsors being able to represent themselves and sell the products they make in the pits.
I agree as well. Was in the pits at Indy. I don't usually get the pit pass but did this year.
I think it's a crock of shit that the teams can't sell stuff in there. I would've liked to get a couple team t-shirts.
Not really interested in a Monster SX shirt.
3/29/2013 5:49pm
GuyB wrote:
[quote]Choppy wrote: Why would you want to run a race team and deal with Feld/MxSports. Not that MxSports doesn't try, but it's about time they allow...
Choppy wrote: Why would you want to run a race team and deal with Feld/MxSports. Not that MxSports doesn't try, but it's about time they allow teams to really represent sponsors in the pits IMO.


Have you actually been in the pits and seen the number of displays under team awnings?
Don't you know it's all Feld's fault? Hahaha
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Chad mentioned them on DMXS when talking about the money being tight in SX. "You got Gibbs that's probably gonna bail here soon" First I had...
Chad mentioned them on DMXS when talking about the money being tight in SX.

"You got Gibbs that's probably gonna bail here soon"

First I had heard of that.
I talked with Coy a bit ago, and he said he's been working on this for five years, and has no intention of bailing out.

Why are people so anxious to grab onto supposed bad news?

From my perspective, JGR may not have gotten the results they've wanted so far, but it's not for lack of effort, or willingness to push the limits of what's possible with their race team.
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Chad mentioned them on DMXS when talking about the money being tight in SX. "You got Gibbs that's probably gonna bail here soon" First I had...
Chad mentioned them on DMXS when talking about the money being tight in SX.

"You got Gibbs that's probably gonna bail here soon"

First I had heard of that.
GuyB wrote:
I talked with Coy a bit ago, and he said he's been working on this for five years, and has no intention of bailing out. Why...
I talked with Coy a bit ago, and he said he's been working on this for five years, and has no intention of bailing out.

Why are people so anxious to grab onto supposed bad news?

From my perspective, JGR may not have gotten the results they've wanted so far, but it's not for lack of effort, or willingness to push the limits of what's possible with their race team.
I would not want them to leave the sport!!
We need more teams like that. Even though I'm not a Yamaha guy, I want then to succeed.
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Sounds to me like wishful thinking on Reed's part. He is banking on JGR bailing, and two-two becoming the Yamaha effort. But, I think JGR is...
Sounds to me like wishful thinking on Reed's part. He is banking on JGR bailing, and two-two becoming the Yamaha effort.

But, I think JGR is banking on the 2014 Yamaha being worth the wait.

The real "tell" is coming up in 1 week. The opening round of the Japanese nationals. We will see the '14 Yamaha.
I am literally shocked for as much anticipation this new Yamaha 450 has.....there hasn't been even 1 spy photo of either 2014 yzf..... I heard Suzuki has something in the works for next year too. Cant wait to see the new bikes.
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4/1/2013 5:14pm
i hope yamaha brings out a good bike..we def need more teams in this sport!!

id hate to see pro mx/sx turn into what has become ama road racing.. Sad
4/1/2013 8:09pm
GuyB wrote:
I talked with Coy a bit ago, and he said he's been working on this for five years, and has no intention of bailing out. Why...
I talked with Coy a bit ago, and he said he's been working on this for five years, and has no intention of bailing out.

Why are people so anxious to grab onto supposed bad news?

From my perspective, JGR may not have gotten the results they've wanted so far, but it's not for lack of effort, or willingness to push the limits of what's possible with their race team.
Not anxious at all. Just curious if any of the other people here who actually know something had heard of it.

I thought it was odd given what I've heard from Coy and Jeremy. Love the guys there. They've just had some horrible luck.

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