Can someone explain why Jarek Balkovic was DQ'd?

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stantdm 3/7/2013 8:56am
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I see nothing done to justify a DQ. It is a normal RACING incident.
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lucero10x 3/7/2013 8:59am
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IceMan446 wrote:
I don't think he meant to go off the track like that, if he had stayed up we would have block passed the dude and it...
I don't think he meant to go off the track like that, if he had stayed up we would have block passed the dude and it would have been a good move.

They didn't touch so why would he be penalized?

If that's the case, the dude that crashed on his own on the start should be penalized for taking out the dude on the Suzuki.
I bet if they had touched and both gone down there would be no DQ, unless a fist fight ensued.
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IceMan446 3/7/2013 9:39am
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lucero10x wrote:
I bet if they had touched and both gone down there would be no DQ, unless a fist fight ensued.
You are right, it would have been a "racing incident" either way I think from watching the video he didnt mean to run off the track especially in a battle with some one for a podium spot.

Towards the end of the video he also says that the guy that crashed had a run in with him earlier in the moto, didnt see it on that video. BUT...if you dish it out, be prepared to get the same done in return.
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RCC104 3/7/2013 9:53am
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Pretty clear he had no intention of making that turn.....



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4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Looks to me he came in hot and the front started to wash out, he eased up on the binders and it stood him up and...
Looks to me he came in hot and the front started to wash out, he eased up on the binders and it stood him up and off the track. Whambalance is on its way. Crybabies lol.
X2... Someone mentioned that he did this before though... But that was a racing incident for sure.
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Madmax31 3/7/2013 9:55am
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The intent was there. Good for DQing his a$$.
wired4speed 3/7/2013 10:15am
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Looked like he tried to cut into the inside line and momentarily lost his front end. Nice save and great pass.
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peelout 3/7/2013 10:20am
3/7/2013 10:20am Edited Date/Time 3/7/2013 10:37am
amazing some of the guys that post here who are saying it was a take-out move have ever "raced" in their lives. turds.

ever gone through a rut and your front wheel popped out? same shit happens if you're carrying too much speed and don't get the bike laid over enough, it stands the bike up and you don't make the turn.

watch the AMA nationals, you'll see that shit happen all the time.

that's what it looked like to me.
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72kiteboarder 3/7/2013 10:31am
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fgb729 wrote:
And can you really penalize someone on an "attempt"? If this were hockey and I attempted to hook someone, but didn't actually do it, can you...
And can you really penalize someone on an "attempt"? If this were hockey and I attempted to hook someone, but didn't actually do it, can you give me 2 minutes for it?
In baseball, an attempt to hit a batter in the head with a pitched ball will get you kicked out of the game.
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GuyB 3/7/2013 11:02am
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RCC104 wrote:
Pretty clear he had no intention of making that turn..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/03/07/takeout_attempt_636226.JPG[/img]
Pretty clear he had no intention of making that turn.....



Or if he did, he badly miscalculated.
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Torco1 3/7/2013 11:13am
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Looks like he F'd up in that corner....nothing more, nothing less. Cant prove his intentions so why get our panties in a bunch....
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peelout 3/7/2013 11:32am
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Torco1 wrote:
Looks like he F'd up in that corner....nothing more, nothing less. Cant prove his intentions so why get our panties in a bunch....
knowing the mentality around this place, perhaps there was a RedCross flag 1/4 lap before this pass
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vet323 3/7/2013 11:45am
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Torco1 wrote:
Looks like he F'd up in that corner....nothing more, nothing less. Cant prove his intentions so why get our panties in a bunch....
peelout wrote:
knowing the mentality around this place, perhaps there was a RedCross flag 1/4 lap before this pass
Just dock the dude three places and be done with it!
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TX_187 3/7/2013 12:22pm
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Yeah I'm sure he meant to blow out the turn and fly off the track... These dudes are on the gas in the heat of battle. I've made aggressive passes, and been on the losing end of aggressive passes. Sucks when you're the one on the ground, but that's racing.
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Sparkalounger 3/7/2013 12:34pm
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pussification of motocross....
nothin wrong with what happened there.... (no matter which way you slice it)
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fader418 3/7/2013 12:52pm
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Thats funny how doosh, I mean Friese does it all the time and nothing ever happens. Friese must work for Monster during the week...
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lucero10x 3/7/2013 1:27pm
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fader418 wrote:
Thats funny how doosh, I mean Friese does it all the time and nothing ever happens. Friese must work for Monster during the week...
Say what you want about Friese, but the dude has been riding his ass off every week.
wired4speed 3/7/2013 2:29pm
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Maybe #83's dad is part of the track organization and felt bad for his son getting a clean pass put on him.

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JBlain619 3/7/2013 3:00pm
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It was an aggressive move plain and simple. No way did it warrant a DQ. Absolutely pathetic!!! There's more aggressive moves than that in the Vet class up here in PA.
JamesOliver 3/7/2013 4:07pm
3/7/2013 4:07pm
It's pretty clear after watching the clip and listening to the interview with Balkovic at the end that his sole intention was to take out the suzuki guy. Just imagine what would have happened if the suzuki guy hadnt braked. It would have looked something like this...

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steve_97060 3/7/2013 4:30pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I watched that scene like 10 times. It looks like #55 stood it up for a second in that corner.....lost his balance slightly then went strait...
I watched that scene like 10 times. It looks like #55 stood it up for a second in that corner.....lost his balance slightly then went strait. It was aggressive for sure........but I don't think #55 intended to come in on that other guy that hot. Christ.....he didn't even touch him and he got a DQ? What the hell?
I thought the same thing, after reading some of the comments I was expecting some blatant take out move which that wasn't.. There must be some prior history or something for that to warrant a DQ.
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steve_97060 3/7/2013 4:31pm
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JamesOliver wrote:
It's pretty clear after watching the clip and listening to the interview with Balkovic at the end that his sole intention was to take out the...
It's pretty clear after watching the clip and listening to the interview with Balkovic at the end that his sole intention was to take out the suzuki guy. Just imagine what would have happened if the suzuki guy hadnt braked. It would have looked something like this...

I cringe every time I see this video, simply brutal..
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Lucifa. 3/7/2013 5:07pm
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fgb729 wrote:
And can you really penalize someone on an "attempt"? If this were hockey and I attempted to hook someone, but didn't actually do it, can you...
And can you really penalize someone on an "attempt"? If this were hockey and I attempted to hook someone, but didn't actually do it, can you give me 2 minutes for it?
How about attempted murder?
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Roscoe33 3/8/2013 6:05am
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HenryA wrote:
Well it was a clumpsy move, but I don't get why he got DQ'd for that.
He didn't stay on his racing line, it was so blatant he went off the track for the take out.

he didn't gain a position on the track so a DQ is overboard.
I am commenting on what I saw on video his off track actions in person another story.
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None of you seem to be aware of this kids history. He has quite the little reputation, did you listen at the end to the kid who won? Said "yeah I passed him and just tried to stay away from him" pretty much. Also Balkovich said that the kid "basically tboned" him in the turn before, when the kid who got third and saw the whole thing said it was a completely clean move around the outside of him. Looked like he went into that turn to CLEAN that kid out, got whiskey or something and blew off the track. Can't believe he pulled that little stunt right there in front of everyone, just furthering his image as the Vince friese of amateurs. Can't be good for sponsors.. Whistling
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jleews6 3/8/2013 8:07am
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I have watched it atleast ten times and I look at it like this.

If my kid did that to another rider it would be a long time before he got back on a bike on my dime. I have always taught my kid to ride like its your track and dont give anybody the spot. Fight for your spot and hold your line but NEVER take someone out. Ride agressive and hold your line but if you cant beat someone because your better then them ,then you need to work harder.
I'm glad they DQ'd that kid.
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TerryK 3/8/2013 8:45am
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captmoto wrote:
Watch closely, it looks like his bike started to stand up in the corner then went straight. It looks like he had him inside but was...
Watch closely, it looks like his bike started to stand up in the corner then went straight. It looks like he had him inside but was just a bit hot going into the corner no big deal.
That's exactly what I saw. He was a tad out of control and ran it wide.
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jtomasik 3/8/2013 9:00am
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MotoX85 wrote:
Did you really just ask that question. If I was you, I would bury this video. That has got to be one of the worst take-out...
Did you really just ask that question. If I was you, I would bury this video. That has got to be one of the worst take-out "Attempts" I have ever seen. Looks just like a takeout I once saw Bradshaw do to Chicken.

Probably let this one go if I was you, I'm a firm believer that rubbin is racin but that "attempt" was a little much.
fgb729 wrote:
So in your eyes it's ok to discipline someone on what you believe to be true but can't necessarily prove? I mean yea we can all...
So in your eyes it's ok to discipline someone on what you believe to be true but can't necessarily prove? I mean yea we can all see he went for it, but can you prove it? I mean he honestly could have swung a lot closer to him but didn't.
I'd fine him for having shitty aim that makes him look like he was goon riding.

Intentional take outs in the B class? Really? Wow. From the looks of it, they should be concentrating on practicing their riding skills and not worry about taking that next position.

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