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Without the names like Villapotto, Dungey, Reed, Stewart, etc. nobody wanted to go.. That's one of the big reasons the turn out was so low..
I wanted to see the GP, because I follow them all. However that's not what sells in Socal now.. This isn't the 70/80's anymore.. The generic fans in Socal barely acknowlege the GP scene at all.
You really have to intimately know your targeted audience if you want to sell tickets and TV viewership. This is sadly missing by the folks running the show. It's all hit and miss.. Each national has a varied audience. What works in upstate NY isnt going to work everywhere else..
Glen Helen had a chance to stay with the program and blew it all the talking in the world ain't gonna change that.
Which track would get the most attendance for a national in 2013? GH, Pala or Elsinore?
Would GH get more fan support?
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I was bummed when Broome Tioga came off the schedule.......I didn't stamp my feet and whine about it for 3 friggin years.
I can't help it that this series doesn't include Glen Helen anymore, but Bud CANCELED his national, started running GPs instead, and left us high and dry two months before the start of the 2010 series. Now, three years later, he's changed his mind, and the whole story.
As for other tracks having it in their contract that they can't say anything, that's just stupid Mark, but no surprise coming from you.
And Glen Helen's race was never as big as RedBud, Unadilla, High Point, Spring Creek, Hangtown, Washougal... all of those races are growing and no one has lost any "leverage," Dasmonger, I have no idea what you're talking about there...
Bud moved on three years ago, so did MX Sports. What we've both done since I think we can be proud of.
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MX Sports
To me, that's not "an unfair representation that I presented," that's leaving the series and the rest of the promoters and the SoCal fans high and dry. But we worked through it. He got the race he wanted -- the GP -- and we managed to hold a race in September. He broke his last contract, with a year to go and didn't sign the extension we offered to give us all time to work things out -- what were we supposed to do?
I am not going to convince you guys of what happened between Bud Feldkamp and MX Sports; you have heard his side and my side. We've moved on, and so has Glen Helen. I can't change what Bud did three years ago, nor will I forget the problems it's caused us both.
DC
MX Sports
If you make demands and threats, you need to be able to live with the consequences if the other side doesn't blink.
DC didn't blink.
DC
MX Sports
The sport is in good hands with DC.
Now get us a TV package all on one channel next year!
I do appriciate DC's insight here at vital and hope it continues.
and "you go DC!". its amazing how these issues with GH never really show their ugly heads at the other 12 tracks on the circuit today.
How about Bud and Jody?
MXA owes DC an objective look at this.
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Last week MXA burned YS, and this week they're throwing MS Sports under the bus.
Get over it.
The final round could be at Glen Helen, Elsinore, or it could be on the moon for all I care.
I just want to watch the best racers in the world go real fast.
In my opinion, I think there was a better class of people that attended both the Pala and Elsinore nationals. While I do love the intimidation factor of Glen Helen as a track and what it brought to the table. Every time I've gone I always encountered some sort of drunken fights breaking out or Bro's beeing Bro's. I didn't get one wiff of that at the other tracks. Now maybe I just got lucky, who know's. You think Elsinore has a bad rap? Try San Berdoo or Fontucky for that matter.
More than one thing can be true at the same time. It can be true that Glen Helen is a great track and we miss it, and at the same time true that the people who have to agree to make that happen can't reach agreement on terms acceptable to both. That happens every day in business.
As far as Saturday's screwing the fans, the riders wanted it and keeping top riders in is the most important part to keeping fan interest. I was at the last national at GH, on a Saturday, and it was packed. Saturday practice, Sunday racing didn't help your GP; as you said "when the public of this sport, the die hards feel they are not getting their money's worth they don't come."
That is kind of like saying the person that makes announcements at the grocery store was involved in back office corporate buyout meetings. Taint gonna happen.
You only know what somebody told you, just like the rest of us.
If you want to frame it as the tail wagging the dog, fine, but that's not the point I was making or really what's at issue. It's not a caving to Diva rider thing. You have to have the best talent at the track. Guys and teams were walking from the series in part because of its grind and in part because the return on the grind was so small. Saturday only has helped change that, and facilitated live TV Money from sponsors that riders have sold based on.
The series had huge ground to make up after the AMA's mismanagement to get it back to being a series riders and teams "had" to do as much as they had to do SX. The Saturday program has helped that. Maybe you disagree, but I don't think anyone thinks that what was happening before the AMA got out was increasing fan interest.
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