Tips for the MXoN

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9/13/2012 5:29am
I like this:

"This is not our ordinary mxon, this is a mix of ironman, enduro, trial, motocross etc." - themrtoad
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9/13/2012 5:37am
robkinuk wrote:
Thought this was going to be a thread about travel tips? For any Americans coming over, don't buy any of that Euro money! It's a scam...
Thought this was going to be a thread about travel tips?
For any Americans coming over, don't buy any of that Euro money! It's a scam, remember Europe isn't a country. Make sure you get some Belgian Francs to spend or failing that bring over a few pairs of silk stockings if you fancy making out with any girls! Hell it worked for your grandpa back in 1944!Wink Tongue Laughing
Came in here thinking the same!
9/13/2012 5:40am
mxgeoff wrote:
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend...
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend. Mine are

1. Team USA. They are just too good, I can't see Belgium having the belief to be able to beat them.
2. Belgium, easily the strongest team from the GP riders
3. Great Britain. Surprise packet of the weekend.
4. Germany
5. Holland

As for the three classes I am going with Herlings, Roczen and Cairoli. Although Dungey versus Cairoli could be epic.

Surprises I think will come from Coldenhoff, Anstie and Barcia.

Geoff
Roczen?


hmmm......
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9/13/2012 6:31am
mxgeoff wrote:
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend...
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend. Mine are

1. Team USA. They are just too good, I can't see Belgium having the belief to be able to beat them.
2. Belgium, easily the strongest team from the GP riders
3. Great Britain. Surprise packet of the weekend.
4. Germany
5. Holland

As for the three classes I am going with Herlings, Roczen and Cairoli. Although Dungey versus Cairoli could be epic.

Surprises I think will come from Coldenhoff, Anstie and Barcia.

Geoff
Crush wrote:
How is Barcia a suprise dude?! He'll be fine!
I agree, I think he will do really well, battling with the likes of De Dycker and Nagl, maybe even beating them. He''s a good rider.

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9/13/2012 6:34am
Watching De Dyker ride is like watching mid 80s GP. I love it. Sits down everywhere, doesn't look like he is moving, but he is.
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9/13/2012 6:44am
mxgeoff wrote:
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend...
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend. Mine are

1. Team USA. They are just too good, I can't see Belgium having the belief to be able to beat them.
2. Belgium, easily the strongest team from the GP riders
3. Great Britain. Surprise packet of the weekend.
4. Germany
5. Holland

As for the three classes I am going with Herlings, Roczen and Cairoli. Although Dungey versus Cairoli could be epic.

Surprises I think will come from Coldenhoff, Anstie and Barcia.

Geoff
Roczen?


hmmm......
Yes, Roczen, you seen that guy ride Lommel, hes frigging amazing. Just my opinion of course.
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9/13/2012 9:18am
How come the riders are allowed to ride the track the week before the race? I don't just mean the Americans I mean in general, did there not used to be a rule you wern't allowed to ride it 2-3 weeks before?
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9/13/2012 9:56am
USA
Germany
Holland
GBR
Belgium

Desalle is running the number 13 for Belgium and call me superstitious but I don't trust that number at all at that race.

And I too am going with Cairoli, Roczen and Herlings as the individual winners. I would go as far to say that I think Kenny will go 2-2 in his moto's.
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Belgium
USA
Germany
France
Australia
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9/13/2012 3:51pm
Dunno about that az. The aussies will struggle to make the top 10 each moto. I reckon we'll get 8th overall
9/13/2012 3:52pm
USA (just)
Holland
Belgium
Germany
France
Australia. Would love to think we will do better than 6th, but it will be a tough ask I think.
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9/13/2012 4:20pm
mxgeoff wrote:
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend...
With it just a little over two weeks away what are everyones tips for the team victory and who might be the stars of the weekend. Mine are

1. Team USA. They are just too good, I can't see Belgium having the belief to be able to beat them.
2. Belgium, easily the strongest team from the GP riders
3. Great Britain. Surprise packet of the weekend.
4. Germany
5. Holland

As for the three classes I am going with Herlings, Roczen and Cairoli. Although Dungey versus Cairoli could be epic.

Surprises I think will come from Coldenhoff, Anstie and Barcia.

Geoff
Roczen?


hmmm......
mxgeoff wrote:
Yes, Roczen, you seen that guy ride Lommel, hes frigging amazing. Just my opinion of course.
seeing that ken has been there a few times i guess that should help his confidence with guys like baggett who have run him down all year
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9/13/2012 6:43pm
There will be surprises for sure, i'm thinking more like a shocker!Dry
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9/13/2012 7:02pm
Is Herlings running MX1 or MX3?
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9/13/2012 9:01pm
mccread wrote:
How come the riders are allowed to ride the track the week before the race? I don't just mean the Americans I mean in general, did...
How come the riders are allowed to ride the track the week before the race? I don't just mean the Americans I mean in general, did there not used to be a rule you wern't allowed to ride it 2-3 weeks before?
wtf, want us to lose or something?
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9/13/2012 11:53pm Edited Date/Time 9/13/2012 11:54pm
fmfred wrote:
Is Herlings running MX1 or MX3?
MX3 on a KTM 350.

Moto 1: mx2+mx1
Moto 2: mx2+mx3
Moto 3: mx1+mx3

Only moto results count, regardless of class.
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9/14/2012 1:41am
TheWeapon wrote:
USA (just)
Holland
Belgium
Germany
France
Australia. Would love to think we will do better than 6th, but it will be a tough ask I think.
GB will beat Aussie easy!

Good interview with Joel Smets on mxlarge, talking about how the American supreme self confidence helps them similar to what I said in an earlier post, while the Belgians etc are never sure how they compare and have been watching the Americans on tv and reading about them in magazines.
9/14/2012 1:48am
Roczen should feel better back in Europe,we could see how he goes against Baggett and Barcia back where he's more used to,even though its Lommel

France don't seem to figure in anyone's predictions,Boog in for Pourcel will be telling,at least he'll put in the effort,you can never tell which CP377 will turn up,if Frossard was there I'd have put them as serious contenders

Italy will miss Philipaerts badly too,

Germany or Holland could podium

The USA team is awesome,especially on paper,and should take it but the MXdN format always throws up suprises,look at last year,Musquin had below par finishes,Pourcel came in for goggles but when he went by Dungey in the last Moto it wa on as Baggett had an suprise bad day
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9/14/2012 4:48am Edited Date/Time 9/14/2012 4:49am
fmfred wrote:
Is Herlings running MX1 or MX3?
He will be riding both classes.. Coldenhoff wil ride MX2.. Herlings will ride all the 3 moto's.. Skipping his fourth result.
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9/14/2012 4:50am
Highsider wrote:
I like this:

"This is not our ordinary mxon, this is a mix of ironman, enduro, trial, motocross etc." - themrtoad
It's actually pretty true. No matter who wins it doesn't really give bragging rights concerning motocross skills. You are not in for a spectacular race, quite the opposite actually.

I predict grey sky, worn out riders and bikes, low speed crasches, bikes not willing to fire up again. The results are exciting but the races will probably be pretty miserable. It's not something I would show up as the image of motocross to an outside sponsor.

I'm surprised they picked this place for mxon. Someone must be pretty desperate to see team USA loose. If USA looses I'm okay with that. If USA wins it will hurt even more because the races wasn't that fun to watch
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9/14/2012 4:56am
Highsider wrote:
I like this:

"This is not our ordinary mxon, this is a mix of ironman, enduro, trial, motocross etc." - themrtoad
themrtoad wrote:
It's actually pretty true. No matter who wins it doesn't really give bragging rights concerning motocross skills. You are not in for a spectacular race, quite...
It's actually pretty true. No matter who wins it doesn't really give bragging rights concerning motocross skills. You are not in for a spectacular race, quite the opposite actually.

I predict grey sky, worn out riders and bikes, low speed crasches, bikes not willing to fire up again. The results are exciting but the races will probably be pretty miserable. It's not something I would show up as the image of motocross to an outside sponsor.

I'm surprised they picked this place for mxon. Someone must be pretty desperate to see team USA loose. If USA looses I'm okay with that. If USA wins it will hurt even more because the races wasn't that fun to watch
I predict grey sky, worn out riders and bikes, low speed crasches, bikes not willing to fire up again.

Sounds like motocross to me.
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9/14/2012 4:58am
Katoom72 wrote:
I predict grey sky, worn out riders and bikes, low speed crasches, bikes not willing to fire up again.

Sounds like motocross to me.
Yeah but you're from Belgium = )

I love the diversity of the gp tracks as well, I just want to prepare those not familiar with Lommel what to expect.
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9/14/2012 5:05am Edited Date/Time 9/14/2012 5:28am
Katoom72 wrote:
I predict grey sky, worn out riders and bikes, low speed crasches, bikes not willing to fire up again.

Sounds like motocross to me.
themrtoad wrote:
Yeah but you're from Belgium = ) I love the diversity of the gp tracks as well, I just want to prepare those not familiar with...
Yeah but you're from Belgium = )

I love the diversity of the gp tracks as well, I just want to prepare those not familiar with Lommel what to expect.
If you love the diversity of the GP tracks, and Motocross is fundamentally about racing on all different types of terrain, why do you have a problem with Lommel? Its been nearly 10 years since a sand track has been used for the MXdN, so to me its exciting.

Certainly better than purpose built, man made tracks like Franciacorta or Donington which were both more of a US Supercross style of track than GP circuit don't you think?
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exaclty, I always think sand races are more fun to watch, Most boring thing is a race on a freeway.
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9/14/2012 7:42am
It's not going to be a cake walk. The Belgians and even Germans are going to be tough. Dutch team is weak. French team is hit or miss. Herlings is gonna smoke everyone on the track with him.

One bad race, we lose.

As I told my Dad....

RD5 is the anchor, he'll be fine and have two good races
Baggett and Barcia COULD BE the weak links.

Baggett is a California hard packer, the sand as deep as Lommel is, could throw him. Not worried about his fitness.
Barcia will be on a 450 in that deep shit, and could easily make a mistake. Dutch/Belgian sand is not like GA/FL sand, totally different animal.

Keep in mind, any of you familiar with sand tracks, there's no bottom to the sand over there. It is sand on sand, with no bottom. It just gets deeper and deeper and you will not get to or find a base for traction or stability. It is ever shifting.
Spooky shit
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Avoid the food, love the continent and the people, but they don't half eat some shit. That is my only advice.
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9/14/2012 11:10am Edited Date/Time 9/14/2012 11:15am
flarider wrote:
It's not going to be a cake walk. The Belgians and even Germans are going to be tough. Dutch team is weak. French team is hit...
It's not going to be a cake walk. The Belgians and even Germans are going to be tough. Dutch team is weak. French team is hit or miss. Herlings is gonna smoke everyone on the track with him.

One bad race, we lose.

As I told my Dad....

RD5 is the anchor, he'll be fine and have two good races
Baggett and Barcia COULD BE the weak links.

Baggett is a California hard packer, the sand as deep as Lommel is, could throw him. Not worried about his fitness.
Barcia will be on a 450 in that deep shit, and could easily make a mistake. Dutch/Belgian sand is not like GA/FL sand, totally different animal.

Keep in mind, any of you familiar with sand tracks, there's no bottom to the sand over there. It is sand on sand, with no bottom. It just gets deeper and deeper and you will not get to or find a base for traction or stability. It is ever shifting.
Spooky shit
GB won't be far away.

Dutch team could surprise you. De Reuver can go very fast and Coldenhoff isn't slow either.

I think all the American's will be fine, they have plenty of time to adapt and test since they are coming early. They are even riding the track.
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9/14/2012 11:27am
jamma10 wrote:
If you love the diversity of the GP tracks, and Motocross is fundamentally about racing on all different types of terrain, why do you have a...
If you love the diversity of the GP tracks, and Motocross is fundamentally about racing on all different types of terrain, why do you have a problem with Lommel? Its been nearly 10 years since a sand track has been used for the MXdN, so to me its exciting.

Certainly better than purpose built, man made tracks like Franciacorta or Donington which were both more of a US Supercross style of track than GP circuit don't you think?
I don't have a problem with Lommel really. It's usually beneficial for the ones I cheer for(swedes in the gp's) when they were around. It is however a very special track, and I always knew that even if they did a good race there it meant very little for the other rounds.

I have watched every single round of the gp's for almost 15 years and I enjoy them all in different ways. In Lommel it's interesting to see the outcome, and a 10sec lead means a lot less than on hardpack. I must admit that I prefer to watch tracks with more airtime and speed a bit more as a spectator. Seing them on Lommel reminds me too much of my own riding capacity on better prepped tracks lol

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