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He might not end up in the US series to race those guys in their backyard but the best the US has to offer are racing on his turf,just like last year,at least we'll get to see how he stacks up again,he had a very good Moto last year,he could better that this time
It's not often we get to see the AMA 450 Champ,AMA 250 Champ and runner up go up against the Euros,it should be awesome,it wouldn't go down too well if the boy Herlings smokes them
DJ: I like the sound of,Cairoli,Roczen and Herlings for Team Euro
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roll on lommel ......hope bambam brings his bucket and spade! haha i'm rooting for big ken to put him through the fence !
is arranda riding ? www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRM7YCVlykU
he will be on the 350 too - he practices on that bike a fair bit so no excuses there either. He was 2 seconds a lap faster on the 350 when we rode with him at reusel (when the track was at its roughest at the end of the day)
The final race of the day (mx1/mx3) with dungey, herlings, cairoli, barcia, big ken etc will be absolutely EPIC!!! theres a huge amount of pressure on herlings but i think he will shine and take both moto victories with a big gap (assuming no mechanical failures) it will certainly be very interesting!
the way big ken was looking at lierop i wouldnt count him out of upsetting a few people- he looked like he could have won the 2nd moto if he wanted to, no team orders at the des nations!!!
In Lommel, I want to say Herlings will win, he has a very good chance. But you can never, ever bet against the Americans to show everyone up. It will be exciting to watch though.
On the other hand, he will need a good start in both motos.
By the way. I think Big Ken is going to send Barcia into the Cafe' (just besides track) just to make a statement and tell him to buy a pepsi with a straw and a order beer for himself after the race. He sometimes do that.
he seemed to he reeling cairoli in then letting him go- no team orders at the nations. If ken gets a start then he can beat anyone in the sand
....and he's not afraid to bang bars!
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But he's fast on hardpack as well. If he would ride this years nationals, I would rate him about the speed of Roczen/Musquin.
Once he spots sandberms (aka southwick), he's insane fast.
- Herlings will be the fastest rider in Lommel.
- The US have the best Team and will win ( if nothing bad happens )
- It going to be the tuffest MXoN in years for the US.
- Of course everbody wants to see the US Team fail, after the domitaion the las past years.
- i don´t like Herlings ... but i will cheer for him when he laps Barcia and Dungey
- Southwick is not even close to an GP Sandtrack ...
- Herlings would be only a top ten rider in the us Nationals ( if not on sand )
PS Very few, apart from a (large) handfull of Germans liked M. Schuemacher much but only idiots would ever have denied his unbelieveable talents, whilst at Ferrarl and before.
As far as riding in the AMA goes, I'd be supprised if any Europeans ever, really get to be comfortable and perform at their best in the heat and humidity that feature at so many AMA National races. It's just alien to us and I personally wouldn't want to run even ten yards in that.
roczen is very good in the sand (so is marvin by the way) but he has never beaten jeffrey in the sand (nobody has taken a moto off him in the sand since he turned pro at 15 years of age)
if you had been at valkenswaard and seen just how much faster jeffrey was than roczen (sure it was something like 4 seconds a lap) then you wouldnt be saying people are underestimating roczen!! he absolutely destroyed him! same at lommel- herlings was riding with 2 broken ribs and still smoked ken!
herlings is even faster in the sand this year (according to cairoli) than he was last year!!
personally i think ken will win the mx2 class (marvin 2nd) but i dont expect either of them to even get a sniff at herlings!
in my opinion cairoli is the only one that might be able to stay with him for a bit- but after going to lierop a couple of weeks ago i have my doubts about that too! cairoli is very fast in the sand but was making alot of mistakes, herlings was just pounding out lap after lap of perfection! it was amazing to watch. Cairoli looks alot more on the edge riding at speed in the sand- herlings is so fluid and smooth, its like its 2nd nature to him.
im interested to see how dungey does- i think his style will suit lommel very well and he will adapt the best out of the US team. It would be cool to see a battle between herlings, big ken, cairoli, barcia and dungey in the final moto of the day! no crashes just good racing
I think he would be on the same level as the Americans on other tracks too as he showed in France. They could beat him and he could beat them.
He just beat Searle in Italy by over 20 seconds on a rock hard track, and Searle is flying this year.
Have Baggett come and race Herlings in the GPs next year then, if you think American's are so superior on other tracks. Yet again it's all about thinking Americans are superior with you guys without any proof, and trying to take away credit from Herlings at what he is good at by saying it doesn't really count because Americans would beat him on any other track, it is so disrespectful.
I would say Lommel and Lierop are some of the most difficult tracks in the world, if you can win there it says everything about your bike skills, it actually highlights just how good they are.
Herlings would love Red Bud, it's pretty soft terrain too. The heat would be more of a problem, but that is nothing to do with speed, more accllimatisation. He is just as good as the top Americans.
As for Dungey, he will be really really fast, and I don't think Herlings will have it all his own way. Barcia and Baggett will be quick too, they are getting plenty of time to ride in the sand so they will be totally comfortable in it.
All this talk of Herlings will do this, or Herlings will do that is jumping the gun I think... he's got to get through this weekend in Germany unscathed first and anything could go wrong on the day! It usually does.
I agree with you though, all those guys will be super fast too, as will De Dycker. I think everyone has seen how fast Herlings can go in the sand, but I am not sure everyone has seen how fast Cairoli can go in it. I think we are about to find out, because he will be giving it everything so that Herlings doesn't beat him.
Herlings times in the MX3 quali heat will be interesting too compared to Dungey and Cairoli who will have raced the much smoother first moto.
LIke Jamma says anything can happen, Herlings is definitely not a shoe in to win. The other guys will be fast, and Herlings has to avoid the crashes and injuries, and cope with huge pressure.
valkenswaard he won easily (even in the race he crashed in)
I think he'll win too but there are no guarantees, it's one race, one weekend and a lot can either go very right or horribly wrong depending on the day. It's true Jeffrey destroyed Lierop but remember the MXDN is not being held at Lierop, it's being held at Lommel. And the last time JH and KR raced there, Roczen wasn't a million miles off. Granted both tracks are deep sand and I think Herlings has improved this year but only time will tell... dammit, now I'm doing it again! Bottom line is the race and how it goes on the day. Nuff said.
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