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Herlings is 17. Why can't Americans admit Herlings is just as good as their riders?!
The Americans have the advantage in American cause they are racing in their own country, put them in the world championship then it would be a better comparison.
Comparing how Herlings would do in American is like comparing how the Americans would do in the Dutch Nationals, Herlings would kill them in the dutch nationals. Herlings is just as fast as the top five in the US. They are all a similar level except in sand.
I do agree Herlings is a top outdoor rider anywhere though.
Fair is fair.
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The World CHampionship is totally different because they race in so many different countries it is more of an equal playing field, its the only way to compare. But Americans don't race the GPs so you can never compare. You just know they are all a similar level.
You guys don't seem to understand that Herlings is super fast on any track, as fast as anyone, he beat musquin last year, lapped Baggett in France and beat RV in a moto, and he had just turned 17.. the track was completely hard pack.
RC wouldn't have beaten Herlings today either i don't think. RC refused to race Everts at Leirop.
But I do think he would of beaten TC today.
First. Belgien
2 Germany
3. Holland,France, USA
And I'm sorry, but until Herlings proves his ability in supercross and starts actually dominating on tracks OTHER THAN SAND, he is NOT "just as fast as the top 5 in the U.S." (2 of whom have won the last 3 world championships.) I remember seeing a video of Herlings trying to practice supercross in the U.S. and seeing him get thrown on his head.
You like to say that Herlings "beat" RV at the MXdN last year, but you never tell the whole story. RV deliberately gave the inside starting position to Baggett and had to come from around 13th at the end of the first lap. At the end he was on Herlings like a lion on a gazelle and Herlings was lucky to survive that last lap. That is how Herlings "beat" RV.
Apparently, it is not enough to just let Herlings be a great European sand rider. He has to be called "legend" now I guess, despite having shown no riding ability whatsoever worthy of that title. And I love how you compare the Dutch nationals to the U.S. Nationals. You always say you "love" the U.S. nationals and the G.P.s equally, but your bias shows through quite often.
Herlings is a great sand rider, in European sand (although an arrogant one one.) To date, that is ALL he is. Let him earn anything else against the other young tigers (like Roczen and Musquin have been doing) before you have a big jack-off party over him.
Herlings was winning GPs at 15 when all your riders where in schoolboys.
He is as good as the top 5 you are just too arrogant to see it. He won 5 GPs last year three where not in sand. Your ignorance is holding you back yet again.
He has won lots of hard pack GPs this year too. He is awesome on any terrain, and is about to be crowned World Champion so he is more than just a sand rider.
I have said it before but you don't get it, racing American's in America is not a fair comparison.
Racing the world champion in the world championship is totally different than racing them in America.
Put them all in the GPs, and the Americans would find it a lot harder than racing them in the US.
Tomac, Searle, Baggett, Barcia, Roczen, Musquin, Herlings... they are all great riders and very similar.
To this:
Get it now? They are both airplanes, with a few minor differences.
Yep, in an ideal world the American's would race the World CHampionship.. then we could have a few GPs in the US too, but that will never happen. Until then the unanswerable debate will go on.
All I know is the level is similar between,AMA/GP but the series are totally different.
But it is not your ignorance that prevents you from seeing this, it is your G.P. bias.
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Mccread is not comparing the US & Dutch national series - he's already made that clear.
Rather, he's drawing an alternative parallel.
My own view is that Herlings wouldn't finish in the top 5 in the US no matter how fast he is in sand. How US riders would do in Holland isn't a realistic enough scenario to warrant consideration.
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Hell, most of us have enough sense to know the dude is fast as hell but it's hard to even like the guy because of a few fuck tards!! Only a few posters on here sould be claiming him as there's because he is from the Netherlands but evey single Euro claims him as their own. Let it the fuck go and lets watch the racing. Fuck this shit gets old!! But hey I harness no hard feelings toward any of you guys. I would love to meet any of you all and sit and have a good conversation. If fact I plan to come to a GP one day soon and hope to find some European friends to show me around.
Have a good day.
at the end of the day Herlings is the sand king, and to the americans saying other countries trying to claim him as their own... we're not, we just want to see him wipe all the americans arses who think they will clean up !
eric sorby @frenchie917
they will be no competiton for JH at the mxdn ,the kid cant be beat in the sand,CANT
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