Tedesco's tweet about Budds

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Edited Date/Time 6/29/2012 3:09pm
Just watching the Racer X film from Budds Creek...Tedesco in a tweet said he drove himself to the hospital with a lacerated kidney and broken rib after crashing in moto 2.
How does a pro rider at a national event end up driving himself to the hospital in Waldorf, Maryland after crashing in the race? Or wherever he ended up.
Or maybe I am missing something. Overall, my point is it sucks that Ivan had to drive himself to the hospital.
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HuskyEd 6/28/2012 6:53pm
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From what I understand, Ivan was sore but nothing major. Went to his hotel room that night and woke up to pee, when he started peeing he was peeing blood and decided to drive himself to the hospital.

I may be wrong but, I am pretty sure this is what I had heard.
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^^^ +1
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Moto Soul Mag 6/28/2012 7:11pm
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That makes more sense. He didn't feel it until later. I guess I keep seeing footage of him laid on the track. That seemed like a nasty crash.
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That's the way I understand it. Apparantly Ivan thought he could "walk it off" or "tough it out" but started peeing blood. Don't need a medical degree to know that's a bad sign.

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I drove myself to the hospital with a broken right foot , if i woke up pissing blood i would be down right frantic and not in any condition to drive. Probably not the first time he has been banged up like that.
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hope hes alright

IT9 is a big name dude, id like him to stay around for as long as possible
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Moto Soul Mag 6/28/2012 7:24pm
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What sucks is he was running strong on the first lap, around 4th I think.
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I think it's funny that he seems to be the most out of control rider out there. Isn't he supposed to be the most in control rider being a veteran and all? Lol.
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What is so amazing about driving yourself to the walk in clinic after a crash? You know whats wrong with you. Asterisk is at the track for prelim stuff. Done it many times myself.
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Moto Soul Mag 6/28/2012 9:50pm
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ProMoto wrote:
What is so amazing about driving yourself to the walk in clinic after a crash? You know whats wrong with you. Asterisk is at the track...
What is so amazing about driving yourself to the walk in clinic after a crash? You know whats wrong with you. Asterisk is at the track for prelim stuff. Done it many times myself.
Yes, I have done it myself also. Drove home from arenacross after getting knocked out, driving with one arm.
However, I am not a former national champion racing for a premier team in the most popular motocross series in the world.
If Ivan woke up in the night feeling bad, I get it now.
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ProMoto wrote:
What is so amazing about driving yourself to the walk in clinic after a crash? You know whats wrong with you. Asterisk is at the track...
What is so amazing about driving yourself to the walk in clinic after a crash? You know whats wrong with you. Asterisk is at the track for prelim stuff. Done it many times myself.
What do you mean by "prelim stuff"?
The Asterisk Mobile Medical Unit working along side with the local EMS are very capable of managing some significant trauma.

Because of privacy reasons I can not speak about individual riders but I can say that there is a significant /scary amount that flat out refuse to come into the rig for fear of finding out there is an injury that will hold them out of a race. The mentality amongst these riders is that if they can kick start a bike they can ride. Also, and this pisses me off the most are riders who fight us tooth and nail not go to the hospital because they don't have INSURANCE and thus can not afford the bill. WTF!!!

We had a rider who presented with signs and symptoms of significant internal injuries that required immediate air ambulance transport. Visually this rider looked normal not a scratch on him. This rider stated "I know my body and I am ok" "I feel no pain" He also stated that he was here alone and that he didn't want to leave his van behind. The "SHOCKER" when he finally stated that he had no INSURANCE and did not want to incur a large medical bill.

I wish this was an isolated incident, but its not. It is also not solely a privateer issue.

Oh and if said rider had followed your advice "PRO"moto he would have died.
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GuyB 6/28/2012 10:44pm
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EddieC wrote:
What do you mean by "prelim stuff"? The Asterisk Mobile Medical Unit working along side with the local EMS are very capable of managing some significant...
What do you mean by "prelim stuff"?
The Asterisk Mobile Medical Unit working along side with the local EMS are very capable of managing some significant trauma.

Because of privacy reasons I can not speak about individual riders but I can say that there is a significant /scary amount that flat out refuse to come into the rig for fear of finding out there is an injury that will hold them out of a race. The mentality amongst these riders is that if they can kick start a bike they can ride. Also, and this pisses me off the most are riders who fight us tooth and nail not go to the hospital because they don't have INSURANCE and thus can not afford the bill. WTF!!!

We had a rider who presented with signs and symptoms of significant internal injuries that required immediate air ambulance transport. Visually this rider looked normal not a scratch on him. This rider stated "I know my body and I am ok" "I feel no pain" He also stated that he was here alone and that he didn't want to leave his van behind. The "SHOCKER" when he finally stated that he had no INSURANCE and did not want to incur a large medical bill.

I wish this was an isolated incident, but its not. It is also not solely a privateer issue.

Oh and if said rider had followed your advice "PRO"moto he would have died.
Thanks.

It's not always supposed to be a tough-guy contest.
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moto431 6/28/2012 10:53pm
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EddieC wrote:
What do you mean by "prelim stuff"? The Asterisk Mobile Medical Unit working along side with the local EMS are very capable of managing some significant...
What do you mean by "prelim stuff"?
The Asterisk Mobile Medical Unit working along side with the local EMS are very capable of managing some significant trauma.

Because of privacy reasons I can not speak about individual riders but I can say that there is a significant /scary amount that flat out refuse to come into the rig for fear of finding out there is an injury that will hold them out of a race. The mentality amongst these riders is that if they can kick start a bike they can ride. Also, and this pisses me off the most are riders who fight us tooth and nail not go to the hospital because they don't have INSURANCE and thus can not afford the bill. WTF!!!

We had a rider who presented with signs and symptoms of significant internal injuries that required immediate air ambulance transport. Visually this rider looked normal not a scratch on him. This rider stated "I know my body and I am ok" "I feel no pain" He also stated that he was here alone and that he didn't want to leave his van behind. The "SHOCKER" when he finally stated that he had no INSURANCE and did not want to incur a large medical bill.

I wish this was an isolated incident, but its not. It is also not solely a privateer issue.

Oh and if said rider had followed your advice "PRO"moto he would have died.
GuyB wrote:
Thanks.

It's not always supposed to be a tough-guy contest.
So how come the AMA or FIM dont make it mandatory for riders to have insurance? I understand its expensive, but so is a $10,000 dirt bike
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GuyB 6/28/2012 10:59pm
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So how come the AMA or FIM dont make it mandatory for riders to have insurance? I understand its expensive, but so is a $10,000 dirt...
So how come the AMA or FIM dont make it mandatory for riders to have insurance? I understand its expensive, but so is a $10,000 dirt bike
I think the USA just beat the AMA or FIM to it...

A $10,000 dirt bike's nothing compared to what an extended stay in the hospital can run. I got a less than five-mile ambulance ride once that cost over $800. I asked them if they were sure it was me in there, since I was KO'd, and didn't remember it...or even get a souvenir photo.
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dcg141 6/28/2012 11:08pm
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I took an ambulance ride after getting KO'd at a race. Mild concusion and a busted nose cost me nearly 3 grand. Yes I have insurance but the detuctible is 4 thousand dollars..
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I had the meat wagon take me to the Mayo clinic after a rather nasty crash, the ride was $2000, then the 2 dislocated shoulders and break in my humorous that part cost me in the $10,000 range....thank the baby lord jesus for insurance.
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kardy 6/29/2012 6:01am
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Broken femur including meat wagon trip: $41K'ish.

Eddie, thanks for chiming in on this. It's always good to hear from people who actually know what's up as opposed to, well, nearly everyone on here.


Edit: OH btw, the 41K was what the hospital wanted to charge. The insurance co. offered around half that and the hospital took it.
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We see it in street medicine all the time. Our against medical advice release is a 10 point check list, contact with a ER nurse or doc and an independent witness signature. People refuse and then come back and try to sue thinking we didn't klnow enough at the time of contact. Most of it starts out because they don't have insurance or crappy insurance.

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Medical is expensive even with insurance! My daughter broke her arm at gymnastics a few months back and it cost around $55k to get that fixed. I was really shocked by the expense for surgery for a broken arm. But the surgeon also said it was one of the worst breaks he had ever seen at the Childrens hospital. Luckily I'm only out of pocket 10% of that!

Now Tedesco probably should have known he needed medical attention but as Eddie stated, riders are stubborn and ego gets in the way sometimes. I fractured the T8 vertebrae in my back and drove home from the track in my stick shift truck at that. Went to the ER they gave me a few vicodin and sent me home saying nothing was wrong. Next week I went to a back specialist because I could barely get out bed and he told me my vertebrae was fractured after looking at he xrays again.
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kardy wrote:
Broken femur including meat wagon trip: $41K'ish. Eddie, thanks for chiming in on this. It's always good to hear from people who actually know what's up...
Broken femur including meat wagon trip: $41K'ish.

Eddie, thanks for chiming in on this. It's always good to hear from people who actually know what's up as opposed to, well, nearly everyone on here.


Edit: OH btw, the 41K was what the hospital wanted to charge. The insurance co. offered around half that and the hospital took it.
mine altogether for breaking my femur was 73 grand but they had to try twice to put the rod in because they almost shattered the whole thing the first time and i was the hospital for a week.
tmauto769 6/29/2012 7:32am
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Back in '95 I got highsided off the bike on a 75' table, did a flip and landed on my kidney in a rain rutt off the side of the track. I was pissing blood that night and that is no joke for sure. When you start pissing blood there is a bunch of stuff that starts happening to your body that isn't favorable. That slowed my ass down a lot, and it still affects me today with what I drink. No more mountain dews for me anymore, and lots of cranberry juice and supplements.
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I had the fortune of running up about an $86,000 bill in the ER/ICU a few years ago. Luckily, we were only out of pocket about $3,500 and a large portion of that was the ambulance ride. An ambulance ride I never should have taken. The EMTs were there and couldn't diagnose any known problems. I went to get up off the ground, in much pain, and started coughing up blood. So I agreed to transport and requested AirEvac, since I had AirEvac insurance. The helicopter ride 120 miles would have cost me less than the 15 mile ambulance ride. They drove me to the nearest ER anyway claiming AirEvac was refueling. Later, a friend of mine with another station of AirEvac said they told him they never got the call.

If you race, look into AirEvac or Life Flight insurance locally. In Alabama there aren't many places that aren't within their territory and I had my whole family covered for three years, any time, any place, for $135. Total, not per year. If I had been flown, it wouldn't have cost me anything. Speaking of them, I need to renew my membership.

I'm very appreciative of my employer as well for the insurance coverage we are afforded. Don't ride or race without insurance folks. It's almost as bad as going without a helmet.
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Eddie is exactly right. These riders' main focus is getting back out there to ride, and the insurance thing (or lack thereof) is definitely a factor as well. Those practitioners with proper training and experience are good at diagnosing things that can't be seen visually. Ambulance, air medical, ER care and hospitalization are all huge expenses, and no riders should be without insurance.
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moto431 wrote:
So how come the AMA or FIM dont make it mandatory for riders to have insurance? I understand its expensive, but so is a $10,000 dirt...
So how come the AMA or FIM dont make it mandatory for riders to have insurance? I understand its expensive, but so is a $10,000 dirt bike
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I think the USA just beat the AMA or FIM to it... A $10,000 dirt bike's nothing compared to what an extended stay in the hospital...
I think the USA just beat the AMA or FIM to it...

A $10,000 dirt bike's nothing compared to what an extended stay in the hospital can run. I got a less than five-mile ambulance ride once that cost over $800. I asked them if they were sure it was me in there, since I was KO'd, and didn't remember it...or even get a souvenir photo.
I always thought most insurance policies won't cover racing injuries...
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GuyB 6/29/2012 10:22am
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Titan1 wrote:
I always thought most insurance policies won't cover racing injuries...
Most? I don't know enough one way or another on percentages to say whether it's a few, most, all, or none.
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Moto Soul Mag 6/29/2012 10:29am
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moto431 wrote:
So how come the AMA or FIM dont make it mandatory for riders to have insurance? I understand its expensive, but so is a $10,000 dirt...
So how come the AMA or FIM dont make it mandatory for riders to have insurance? I understand its expensive, but so is a $10,000 dirt bike
GuyB wrote:
I think the USA just beat the AMA or FIM to it... A $10,000 dirt bike's nothing compared to what an extended stay in the hospital...
I think the USA just beat the AMA or FIM to it...

A $10,000 dirt bike's nothing compared to what an extended stay in the hospital can run. I got a less than five-mile ambulance ride once that cost over $800. I asked them if they were sure it was me in there, since I was KO'd, and didn't remember it...or even get a souvenir photo.
Titan1 wrote:
I always thought most insurance policies won't cover racing injuries...
many policies won't. It's called a hazardous activities rider and many policies have them. Things like scuba diving, rock climbing etc. are also not covered.
A professional racer not having insurance is just nutty. You can even get it from the AMA on a race by race basis, at least amateurs can.
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I broke my wrists 4 times from 8-12. we just told em i kept fallin out of trees. but our dr. was a pretty cool dude who also took care of jason when he broke his back and had to have a few surgeries after coming home.
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Moto Soul Mag 6/29/2012 10:55am
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JaredPartridge wrote:
I broke my wrists 4 times from 8-12. we just told em i kept fallin out of trees. but our dr. was a pretty cool dude...
I broke my wrists 4 times from 8-12. we just told em i kept fallin out of trees. but our dr. was a pretty cool dude who also took care of jason when he broke his back and had to have a few surgeries after coming home.
The only problem with the "I fell off a ladder" strategy is, what if you show up unconscious wearing your riding gear? It's a horrible idea to take that approach, because if it is a catastrophic injury they will probably find out, and that's when you need insurance the most.
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I think it's funny that he seems to be the most out of control rider out there. Isn't he supposed to be the most in control...
I think it's funny that he seems to be the most out of control rider out there. Isn't he supposed to be the most in control rider being a veteran and all? Lol.
He's 'control' is as of a quote stated by the commentary of one of the opening rounds when discussing the highly intense 250f field was something he stated something along the line of defining the class as 'spastic'. Tedesco flourished and dominated the scene of the small bore class between 6 - 8 years ago. The times have changed. To think he could be of a strong presence and have an upfront finishing would be unrealistic, especially with the field showing numerous contenders from wherever they be in the top 5 to say the least. However it is refreshing to see a former lites class god get out there and contribute to the ever-so contrasting formulation of what lies furthers ahead in the ama mx scene.

The input of the flourishing riders of the future in the top ten (unbiased to consistency) provide something we can all embrace.
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I drove myself to the hospital with a broken right foot , if i woke up pissing blood i would be down right frantic and not...
I drove myself to the hospital with a broken right foot , if i woke up pissing blood i would be down right frantic and not in any condition to drive. Probably not the first time he has been banged up like that.
wanna get good with a clutch? I mean Really good? drive a stick every day using only your left foot after blowing your right ankle and heal up... and ya, uphill starts are especially interesting....

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