"RUTS"...the worst component of racing scooters

SLAPAHO
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6/5/2012 7:45pm
ML512 wrote:
WIND!!!! I hate riding in the wind...
x2 wind on a jumpy track scares the crap outta me...

oh and shit like this usually ruins me too, not skurrrd, but they always seem to get me


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6/5/2012 7:48pm
BobbyM wrote:
everybody puckers a little on jumps....that's a given but ruts are so unpredictable that they can bite you when you least expect it.
Ruts can change every lap in an AMA Pro race.
6/5/2012 7:51pm
My top three.

1.)Blue groove / hard as concrete tracks with big jumps.
2.)Deep ruts
3.)Massive breaking bumps coming out of high speed sections.
6/5/2012 7:53pm
Seeing a fellow rider break his arms and spirit when the rear shock comes apart wide open in 4th on a high speed ski jump... That scares me. Unsure

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6/5/2012 7:56pm
I love ruts. I hate doubles and triples. Not much of a jumper. High speed rocky tracks are my favorite.
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6/5/2012 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 6/5/2012 8:04pm
Ruts don't phase me so much anymore, but they used to. These things freak me out:

-Jumping in wind.
-Riding/jumping in first lap, mid-pack traffic.
-Kickers on jump faces.
-Doubles and triples the first time you do them.

I also fear getting landed on or coming upon a downed rider/bike over a blind jump/hill.
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6/5/2012 8:00pm
sc961 wrote:
Ruts are no fun for me. Blind double/triple take offs.. Don't mind jumping, but don't like taking off without being able to see where the landing...
Ruts are no fun for me.

Blind double/triple take offs.. Don't mind jumping, but don't like taking off without being able to see where the landing might be...
Dave Coombs SR. was a huge advocate of taking blind jumps out of the circuit just look at Steel City and Mount Morris layout. True visionary. Liked working for the guy too.....Oh and his Son? No not DC but Timmy was a fast mofo on a scooter, especially in the Blackwater...Ah the good times!

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6/5/2012 8:07pm
Ruts don't really scare me except for on the face of jumps they can be intimidating. But like mentioned; live by the sword die by the sword. Big sandy rut going into corner is what blew my right knee out when foot caught dug in.
But I'm just a practicer for unforeseeable future so I don't have to do nothing to hurt myself. Laughing
6/5/2012 8:49pm
What bothered me the most was rain just before one of my motos. A total mudfest was fun, cuz the speeds are slower. But sitting on the line with 39 other guys, thinking about how slick the track is gonna be, and knowing that everyone is still gonna be pinning it...thats damn unsettling, and usually doesn't end well.
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6/5/2012 8:52pm
ML512 wrote:
WIND!!!! I hate riding in the wind...
Outsider wrote:
LACR back in the day comes to mind. Unsure
THIS! Plus a lot of the bigger jumps there got some nasty kickers in them (remember the old big tabletop right out of the left hander after the finish?).

Scariest thing that happened to me though (also at LACR), some tiny kid on a 50 crossed the track right in front of me when I was in about 4th gear on a 125 (jeeez 10 years ago already?!)... I grabbed both brakes immediately and hell I probably closed my eyes because I was 100% sure I was going to plow right into him. He must've hit the gas at the right moment because I barely missed him. I rolled the whole next lap in 1st gear, came back around and saw his dad looking very animated and obviously shouting at him... so I just let it go.
6/5/2012 8:57pm
BobbyM wrote:
on a motocross track. There wasn't a lot of shit that scared me back in the day...or even today but racing at speed on a rutted...
on a motocross track. There wasn't a lot of shit that scared me back in the day...or even today but racing at speed on a rutted motocross track's gotta be in the top 3 imho.

What scares you when yer racing (very slowly for many of you) a scooter on a motocross track?
You are on the track putting in hard laps and think you're hauling ass when someone pulls up behind you, passes you like your in neutral, and you start getting your ass smoked by what turns out to be some snot-nosed pimply faced little brat who's young enough to be your granddkid! What's worse is after pulling off the track having him talk trash to you after he smoked you and there's nothing you can do about it because everybody saw you getting smoked by a 12 year old on a mini and they're laughing their asses off at you! Not that this has happened to me. Dry
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people crossing the track
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6/5/2012 10:38pm
waiting on the launch pad for the water truck to get off the first turn.
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6/5/2012 10:51pm
I hate jumping into a rhythm section that you can't over jump or under jump, especially when you can't see the landing.

The X Games tracks scared the shit out of me. We always had a couple pros to help us do the jumps. I'd literally just try to match rpms and launch...
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6/5/2012 10:58pm
Tumblin wrote:
waiting on the launch pad for the water truck to get off the first turn.
This happened to me this weekend. It was a slip-n-slide in to the first corner and I ended up getting nailed by like 5 dudes (and managed to keep it upright) before having to pull 2 tearoffs before the 3rd corner. One of the scariest (and completely avoidable) situations to put people in on a moto track.
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6/6/2012 12:44am

I'll take a rutted straight over this any day.
6/6/2012 3:10am
ML512 wrote:
WIND!!!! I hate riding in the wind...
The wind tops the list for me too.

Then it's ruts in a close second.

And just as I was typing this I remembered how much I hate Glen Helens downhills. Seriously, I hate Glen Helen period. Every time Ive ever ridden their it is just survival. I dont have fun. I go out their thinking this might be the last time I ride for a long time and it is full concentration sensory overload the entire time I ride. When I come back to the pits all I feel is immense relief.

The worst part is, I look at Glen Helen and know, that if I was good, it would be my favorite track. It has everything that I'd love if I was good enough to ride it pinned. It looks so fun in theory but once Im out their Im miserable. It's a very frustrating experience.
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6/6/2012 3:27am
Ruts in the landings (or immediately after a landing).
DrSweden
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6/6/2012 3:41am
Getting hit by other riders, especially those that take unnecessary risks. One can always adapt to a bad track, harder to adapt to unpredictable people.
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6/6/2012 5:12am
Goons not holding their lines and cuting you off on jump faces and kickers also
johansen
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6/6/2012 5:24am
Blind jumps!
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6/6/2012 6:35am
Rutted jump faces and wind. That and dusty unwatered tracks. Going into the first corner not being able tosee sucks.
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6/6/2012 6:39am
Ruts in straights are terrible. I also hated the accelleration holes at the top of the jump face that catch the rear wheel and send you into a nose dive.

But my biggest peeve is SX style jumps on MX tracks. I don't mind big jumps with safe landings, but when you put large, timing jumps with steep takeoffs and landings into a high speed MX track, that's just an accident waiting to happen. If you are going to build big jumps, make sure you build a "safe" landing.
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6/6/2012 10:21am
toofast413 wrote:
Goons not holding their lines and cuting you off on jump faces and kickers also
ahh reminds me of the ol c class. People would try and take me out in morning practice hahaha
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6/7/2012 11:31am
Always nervous on the start. Even more nervous when I get to the first turn and there's a pile. Guess I have to holeshot more!
6/7/2012 11:33am
Florida tracks that re-do the track every week with the same shit dirt. What happens is the jump faces are never packed, and only look good until 2 laps into practice at which point the faces develop that kicker near the lip.

Personally watch a vet rider, father of multiple children on a KTM kill himself on one such jump. Yet, this particular track has the same shitty kicker jump faces EVERY Saturday night for 30 years.

FL people will know which track I am talking about.

At a place with good dirt like a Budds Creek type track, i'll huck a 90ft table til my balls fall off. But a place that develops that curb-sized kicker lip, I won't even unload my bike.
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6/7/2012 1:13pm
Starts are when I'm scared lol, I can't think of many sports with a start as intimidating as an mx race, probably boxing or skydiving.
6/7/2012 1:15pm
RedRacer wrote:
Starts are when I'm scared lol, I can't think of many sports with a start as intimidating as an mx race, probably boxing or skydiving.
and boxing and abbreviated skydiving (w/o a parachute) are usually a part of every good MX weekend, ironically.
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6/7/2012 1:23pm
Starts; idiots on starts, idiots crashing into me on starts, first turn pile ups, fingers in sprockets, things out of my control.

+ Ruts, jumps that are out of my league, and general squirrely moments, be they in the air or on the ground. Although saying that... those "woooooaaahhh, fucking hell that was close" moments of relief feel awesome.

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