So what would YOU do?

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 11:57am
Since everyone's talking about the Racerhead this week over at the RacerX site, let's get into that a little. DC says they plan on making several changes to the AMA Nationals.

What would YOU like to see the NPG do to better the nationals?

Here's a few ideas I came up with -

1. Run 250F's on Saturday, 450's on Sunday. Practice and qualify the 250F's Saturday morning and afternoon, then start the main motos at 2pm. Run a moto, take a 1-hour intermission, then run the second moto. Same as 450's on Sunday. Start practice in the morning on Sunday, run qualifying, then fire off the motos at 2pm.

2. Allow the riders/teams to market and merchandise themselves to fans how they want. I believe I've heard recently that Ryan Clark, Butler Bros. and a few others are finally doing this. The merchandising being controlled by one guy (who happens to be the head of the NPG) just does not seem right.

3. Spectator seating and viewing has improved over the years. Would be nice to see those improvements to continue.

4. No alcohol at the events. We've all read and heard stories of the problems caused by drunken and rowdy fans (and the occasional rider). Easiest fix, ban all alcohol on the premises at each round.

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ddog558
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Make Saturday 2 30 min. + 2 lap motos for a "Support" class (no "factory" or "satellite" riders allowed)

Make Sunday 2 45 min. + 2 lap motos for a Run-What-You-Brung class (all factory and satellite riders, no displacement limit".
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Ban Alcohol from the race? are you kidding me? there goes red buuuuud.
Not as many fans will come to both days of a two day event. that would be hell on teams that have 450 and 250 riders.
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Teflon wrote:
Ban Alcohol from the race? are you kidding me? there goes red buuuuud. Not as many fans will come to both days of a two day...
Ban Alcohol from the race? are you kidding me? there goes red buuuuud.
Not as many fans will come to both days of a two day event. that would be hell on teams that have 450 and 250 riders.
In case you haven't noticed, those teams with 250 and 450 riders are ALREADY there for both days currently.
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Spreading out an event to Saturday and Sunday is ridiculous. You forget people who race motocross have real lives and real jobs, would you really want to spend your entire weekend at the track? Hell no. After a long, exhausting race day, as a fan or a racer, I am tired of moto at that point and definitely would not want to come back the next day, pay for gas, food, and whatever else and do it all over again...people would get burnt out so fast.

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7/12/2008 2:00pm
If guys are running out of fuel with 35 min motos, how are they going to do 50 min motos?
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Sell those weeks to LiveNation for more Supercross.
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7/12/2008 2:17pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 7:35pm
No alcohol works in Millville and as far as I can tell spectator numbers have increased.. It was out of control for years and I wouldn't go there just because of all the drunken assholes staggering around 24-7. If you are going to die without your beer, there's always the beer gardens.


I like the way the motos are run now (for many years now) but I would also like to see some kind of support class for true privateteers. I'm sure they could squeeze 2 more shorter motos in on Sunday.
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7/12/2008 2:25pm
I don't like the idea of having the lites on one day and then the 450's on the next day. Some people travel a long ways to see these events and staying another day is expensive, plus you would probably have to pay full price for both days of getting into the event.
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7/12/2008 2:43pm
Move the racing to Saturday, Sunday is travel, work on Mon etc etc. Simple.
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1 and 4 won't work.
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oshow wrote:
1 and 4 won't work.
And why not?
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Live coverage! Also to make the racing better, move the ones that dominate the small bore class up sooner. Why is RV still totally dominating the 250 class? If a young gun is totally dominating for a couple of years move them up. Imagine if RV moved up last year what racing we would be having in both classes this year. Back in the old days everyone wanted to move up into the premiere class. It would just make the racing better. Yawn, I think I'll take a nap now so I'll be rested up to ride all day tomorrow instead of staying home to see RV stomp em in the 250's and JS stomp em in the 450's...
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As a spectator, I wouldn't be thrilled about splitting the classes into different days. I can only make it out for one day, and it would suck to only see half the racing...
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I like Spinner's idea, except the ban on Alcohol. Usually the only time I drink is at the race track...if I drink.

At Glen Helen, they do have a family only section, but I think they still allow alcohol. I would think an Alcohol only section, would be appropriate..No alcohol among the masses, if you want to drink, stay in the play pen.

Of course, rules don't apply to me...just everyone else.
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7/12/2008 4:08pm
Tell Carolyn Huffman to quit being so goddamm greedy. It's embarrassing and would be cheaper to go to Disney land for the weekend. Tell Ralph to put Chuck Sun jump back in (they took it out for vendor space so shougie has no jump anymore)
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oshow wrote:
1 and 4 won't work.
Spinner wrote:
And why not?
Because I don't like them.... just kidding.

1= I don't think you would get as many people both days....Travel-$$-Work would play a part in that.

4= Maybe add a family section but no way ban the drinks.
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take 1 of the Pennsylvania racers and put it at the new track in Al.
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Yup 1 and 4 are stupid and 2 and 3 are obvious, I hope you didn't spend a lot of time coming up with that. lol.
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I kinda like the moving both races to sat. idea. I think that would work so good for fans, racers, everyone.
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spacerider wrote:
take 1 of the Pennsylvania racers and put it at the new track in Al.
Monster Mt. would be a great national! Good Idea.
7/12/2008 4:20pm
Monster Mountain is closer to me but if they can make a quality "National" track at Barber it would be better.
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1. Team/Rider Merchandising. NPG/AMA/DMG have every right to licensing fee, but in return teams and racers should be allowed a vendor location along a prominent "midway" outside of the pit paddock area and all should be allowed equal billing and exposure, no "ghetto"

2. Autograph sessions and rider "meet and greets" are to be held on the merchandising midway. This will increase exposure of the merchandising trailers, help a rider/team increase sales and frees up crowded space in the paddock (pit) area.

3. Natural berms should be built along the track sides, preferably tiered, in order to allow better viewing for those not standing at the fence line.

4. Improved sound and spectator communication boards in a modular system that can be easily broken down and packed into a semi-trailer and hauled from race to race. Speakers should include several speaker arrays that can be hung from cranes and/or scaffolding/scissor lift which can also be used for TV camera platforms. Additional spectator information should be several scoring pylons placed throughout the property showing the running order in live time via timing loops placed throughout the track.

5. Diamondvision (large video) screens (at least two) placed in areas with limited viewing.

6. More hard bathrooms for women only, or at minimum, many trailer potties that are kept clean, for ladies only.

7. Sponsor/VIP tents with hard floors and A/C. Those with the most money won't be hardcore MX Fans, just people with money. Treat them like they expect to be treated at any other motorsport event...don't make them and their spouses muddy up their nice shoes...that's just stupid.

8. Better and more visible security, in the parking lots as well.

9. Shade, shade, shade....it's pretty damn hot in the summer, make your customers more comfortable by providing shade which can be easily done and you can even sell it for additional income.
How? Shade sail cloth. Triangular sail cloth strung between poles, which can even be raised, lowered and tilted for various sun and weather conditions.
They can be paid for through advertising...print sponsor logo on them
See example below:



10. Predetermined wash bay areas outside of or away from the paddock area to keep it from getting muddy and keep it a more professional appearance

11. Play areas for kids. Many kids get board throughout the day standing at the fence in the sun, they need an outlet. Build a couple play areas and even offer "child check"


and that's to start....
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Monster Mountain is closer to me but if they can make a quality "National" track at Barber it would be better.
Barber or Bremen are coming.
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2, 3, 4. All sound like good ideas. I say let''s vote on it.
7/12/2008 4:48pm
Bremen is not a good choice. Not enough parking. Monster mountain is a better choice. The best is Barber!!! Plenty of space already raced at professionally and right off the interstate!! Slam dunk winner.
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Teflon wrote:
Ban Alcohol from the race? are you kidding me? there goes red buuuuud. Not as many fans will come to both days of a two day...
Ban Alcohol from the race? are you kidding me? there goes red buuuuud.
Not as many fans will come to both days of a two day event. that would be hell on teams that have 450 and 250 riders.
yep!
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1) advertise locally that there is a race in town.

2) quit dreaming that people know there is a race in town and advertise the event locally.....oops i lready said that!

3) everything dave said is a good start

4) open up your checkbook for 3 years and make an investment in the future.
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gnarwhip wrote:
Spreading out an event to Saturday and Sunday is ridiculous. You forget people who race motocross have real lives and real jobs, would you really want...
Spreading out an event to Saturday and Sunday is ridiculous. You forget people who race motocross have real lives and real jobs, would you really want to spend your entire weekend at the track? Hell no. After a long, exhausting race day, as a fan or a racer, I am tired of moto at that point and definitely would not want to come back the next day, pay for gas, food, and whatever else and do it all over again...people would get burnt out so fast.
I agree. As the movie says "On any Sunday."

oG
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From Dave's list:

10. Predetermined wash bay areas outside of or away from the paddock area to keep it from getting muddy and keep it a more professional appearance

This rule is actually in place. However, AMA (Specifically John Ayers) did not follow through with his part, of providing the washers. I built a wash area, and it was never used.
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For clarification, John Ayers is GM of the NPG
Not part of the AMA

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