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perry981
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Edited Date/Time 8/2/2012 8:14pm
Just curious, if you guys were to buy a 2012 250f or two, what bike would you choose? I have been a Honda guy my whole life and im getting back into the sport, my last race was 2010 Unadilla pro weeked in the expert class and i blew my head gasket... dad wasnt really in it anymore but i have finally talked him back into his senses and were racing again... im 18 now so still young enough lol. Im really liking the new yami's but want some input from some people who have been in it the last two years
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RM127
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5/28/2012 6:58pm
U sound spoiled.....
Renner153
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5/28/2012 7:05pm
RM127 wrote:
U sound spoiled.....
^ haha this!

but on topic, yamis are slow but reliable.. my 2010 crf 250 is fast and completely reliable..my only bike i have and i am never worried about it breaking on me
dirtnapper
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5/28/2012 7:07pm
STFU NOOB! Whistling
5/28/2012 7:17pm
Get yourself the Kawasaki that comes in Blue,only if you arent a lazy Noob

If you are a Lazy Noob consider the following!

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perry981
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5/29/2012 6:18pm
lol noob? ive been racing for 9 years i just got out right befor the EFI was introduced so I wanted to know if it really mattered cause yami hasnt switched yet... and not spoiled lol it was eat or race... we raced. my last three bikes were cr144, cr125 and crf250..(08) favorite bike i have ever had... so prolly going to have to stay true to honda...
fader418
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5/29/2012 6:25pm
perry981 wrote:
lol noob? ive been racing for 9 years i just got out right befor the EFI was introduced so I wanted to know if it really...
lol noob? ive been racing for 9 years i just got out right befor the EFI was introduced so I wanted to know if it really mattered cause yami hasnt switched yet... and not spoiled lol it was eat or race... we raced. my last three bikes were cr144, cr125 and crf250..(08) favorite bike i have ever had... so prolly going to have to stay true to honda...
pretty sure they mean noob on vital.....all the bikes are good... bike don't matter
sam111
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5/29/2012 7:01pm Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 2:10pm
I have always ridden Suzuki's. They are really good bikes - in terms of both performance and reliability - despite what some say about them. The current generation RMZ250 has won a lot of magazine shootouts too.

Realistically, the "big five" are all as good as each other. Pick the one you like or can get the best deal on.

bullpen58
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5/29/2012 7:20pm
Stay loyal to Honda.
DPW
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5/29/2012 7:25pm
heck with a 250F....u're 18 now go buy your own 450
5/29/2012 11:04pm
DPW wrote:
heck with a 250F....u're 18 now go buy your own 450
If he buys a 450 every time he hits the track he will end up like this, OP dont listen to this guy get a 250fCool
Indy mxer
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5/30/2012 4:48am
Not sure why you posted.
You wanted opinions on the 2012 250F's, then shortly after that said you were staying with Honda. What?
Actually, all the bikes are very good.

Anyway, I have a 2012 Kaw and love it. Awesome bike.
That said, I ride with a bunch of new Suzuki's and they seem to be excellent bikes as well. Plus, nothing turns like a zook.

Good luck!
BobbyM
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5/30/2012 7:47am
Indy mxer wrote:
Not sure why you posted. You wanted opinions on the 2012 250F's, then shortly after that said you were staying with Honda. What? Actually, all the...
Not sure why you posted.
You wanted opinions on the 2012 250F's, then shortly after that said you were staying with Honda. What?
Actually, all the bikes are very good.

Anyway, I have a 2012 Kaw and love it. Awesome bike.
That said, I ride with a bunch of new Suzuki's and they seem to be excellent bikes as well. Plus, nothing turns like a zook.

Good luck!
this guy is either a fake or he has no business racing a scooter, can't even think for himself on a forum...can't imagine him being on a track making split second decisions. but if is serious he should ride whatever daddy buys him and like it.
burn1986
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5/30/2012 8:00am
Why limit yourself to a 4-stroke. If you have to I would go with the RMZ. However, I think you should try a

2012 KTM 150SX


or a 2013
Dude
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5/30/2012 8:06am
Expert class?

Well, you need to bring a Howitzer to a gunfight. Meaning, race a KTM250SX in the 250 class.

Love the 150 KTM, but at a recent Pro Am, I watched one struggle with a really talented rider on it. Just not quite enough balls to run with 250 two strokes and built-up fours.
burn1986
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5/30/2012 8:28am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 10:06am
Heck yeah, a 250sx would no doubt keep up with and pass any 250F, but those bike are pretty f-in fast (almost too much). If you can handle the power, it's obviously the 250 of choice. The YZ would be my second choice, if you're going that route.
8686
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5/30/2012 9:51am
Buy a new KTM 250SX or Yamaha YZ250. They are lighter and have more power than the 250F's. They are cheaper to maintain and easier to work on than the 250F's.

Didn't that 250F engine repair teach you anything? Lol. Just kidding.

Plus you're just going to look and sound a hell of a lot cooler ripping around the track on a two stroke.
5/30/2012 9:55am
The Yamaha is outdated even before it's unboxed! Old (but proven) technology ... If they make a EFI Yamaha this year, then you'll lose massive money if you buy a 2012 YZF. I would stick with the Honda (and I ride a Kawasaki)
moto282
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5/30/2012 10:04am
Don't go with a Yamaha 250F for reasons stated above.... go with either the Kawi or the Honda.
AS64
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5/30/2012 10:12am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 10:13am
2012 Suzuki RM-Z250
burn1986
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5/30/2012 10:13am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 10:33am
Many people prefer the carb to the EFI. Not only does it weigh less, but is proven tech. Any 250F is going to blow more quickly if revved to where the most power is 10k - 13k rpms, but if you (or your dad) have the money, then go for it. Like someone said earlier, you could go with a 2013 2-stroke for more power and possibly cheaper than the 250F (especially in the long run). Don't listen to these people who say that a YZ250 is outdated just becasue of the plastic. The aluminum frame and SSS suspension is the best-to-date, even though many prefer the pre-2005 steel frame (which KTM still uses, since it works).
SlowMoFo
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5/30/2012 10:15am
I rode a Kawi 250f two weeks ago and I found it anemic and very nervous! Maybe I am spoiled with the 450 power but that bike pulled decent but signed off pretty quick ahd once it picked up speed it started wobbling all over. I remember my 05 250f being way stronger at the bottom and more planted but things have changed for sure.
AS64
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5/30/2012 10:27am
You know what, yes I personally recommend the RM-Z250. BUT, pick a damn color! All these bikes are worthy competitors. The bikes are so damn good these days I don't think you can go wrong with any one of them (within the big 5).
Tracktor
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5/30/2012 10:35am
As you can see this forum is filled with people who don't ride^^^. A 250 2-stroke doesn't have a chance against a 250f in lap times. Besides the fact that 250f's are giggle machines. Power doesn't mean a damn thing if you get tired and can't control it. 250f's are damn near the perfect bike.......

I went with Honda this year. Came off of a 2009 Kawi and it was a great bike. You won't go wrong with a Honda but the rest of them are great bikes also. Find a local dealer that will take care of you and start riding.............
Ing
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5/30/2012 10:41am
Buy a pretty orange one. The look like flying punkins.
8686
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5/30/2012 12:43pm
Tracktor wrote:
As you can see this forum is filled with people who don't ride^^^. A 250 2-stroke doesn't have a chance against a 250f in lap times...
As you can see this forum is filled with people who don't ride^^^. A 250 2-stroke doesn't have a chance against a 250f in lap times. Besides the fact that 250f's are giggle machines. Power doesn't mean a damn thing if you get tired and can't control it. 250f's are damn near the perfect bike.......

I went with Honda this year. Came off of a 2009 Kawi and it was a great bike. You won't go wrong with a Honda but the rest of them are great bikes also. Find a local dealer that will take care of you and start riding.............
Then one should work on their fitness so they can control the lighter and faster bike.
mmcmx
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5/30/2012 12:49pm
EFI in the 250 is bullshit. I have a '10 KXF and I think I'll switch to the 450 because I can't get to the idea that my new bike will be slower than my old one...
Tracktor
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5/30/2012 9:03pm
Tracktor wrote:
As you can see this forum is filled with people who don't ride^^^. A 250 2-stroke doesn't have a chance against a 250f in lap times...
As you can see this forum is filled with people who don't ride^^^. A 250 2-stroke doesn't have a chance against a 250f in lap times. Besides the fact that 250f's are giggle machines. Power doesn't mean a damn thing if you get tired and can't control it. 250f's are damn near the perfect bike.......

I went with Honda this year. Came off of a 2009 Kawi and it was a great bike. You won't go wrong with a Honda but the rest of them are great bikes also. Find a local dealer that will take care of you and start riding.............
8686 wrote:
Then one should work on their fitness so they can control the lighter and faster bike.
Tell that to all the pros who choose to ride thumpers. One should ride whatever the hell they like. Of course that's a tough concept to explain to someone who probably doesn't..........................
8686
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5/31/2012 5:30am
Tracktor wrote:
Tell that to all the pros who choose to ride thumpers. One should ride whatever the hell they like. Of course that's a tough concept to...
Tell that to all the pros who choose to ride thumpers. One should ride whatever the hell they like. Of course that's a tough concept to explain to someone who probably doesn't..........................
Let's be nice now. Smile

Do you think the pro's on the 250F's would still ride a 250F if they had the choice between a 250F or a 250 2-stroke?
burn1986
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5/31/2012 5:35am
8686 wrote:
Let's be nice now. :) Do you think the pro's on the 250F's would still ride a 250F if they had the choice between a 250F...
Let's be nice now. Smile

Do you think the pro's on the 250F's would still ride a 250F if they had the choice between a 250F or a 250 2-stroke?
Boy, that's a hard one, hmmmm let me think . . . ummmm . . . no.

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