Stewart Renthal /Metcalf Pro Taper

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Rizzo 5/25/2012 4:19pm
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Who cares! Man that bike looks good with those RED backrounds! Haters, get used to them!
Bike doesn't look any different than when RC and Dungey rode it.
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Sherwood 5/25/2012 4:40pm
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If Tucker Rocky is pissed about James running Renthal shouldn't they also be pissed at Metcalf for having a parts unlimited sticker on his jersey?
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FGR01 5/25/2012 4:46pm
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If Tucker Rocky is pissed about James running Renthal shouldn't they also be pissed at Metcalf for having a parts unlimited sticker on his jersey?
Or him wearing Thor gear which is owned by PU ?

The answer is no. TR/PT has a deal with Suzuki, not with Metcalfe. Suzuki controls what goes on the bike, Metcalfe controls what goes on his body. Kinda like when Honda was officially sponsored by FOX for mechanics clothes and such but the riders all had their individual contracts for whatever gear they wanted.
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Sherwood 5/25/2012 4:59pm
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Sherwood wrote:
If Tucker Rocky is pissed about James running Renthal shouldn't they also be pissed at Metcalf for having a parts unlimited sticker on his jersey?
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Or him wearing Thor gear which is owned by PU ? The answer is no. TR/PT has a deal with Suzuki, not with Metcalfe. Suzuki controls...
Or him wearing Thor gear which is owned by PU ?

The answer is no. TR/PT has a deal with Suzuki, not with Metcalfe. Suzuki controls what goes on the bike, Metcalfe controls what goes on his body. Kinda like when Honda was officially sponsored by FOX for mechanics clothes and such but the riders all had their individual contracts for whatever gear they wanted.
That's like saying JS7 could've worn a Red Bull logo on his jersey when Monster became a sponsor at Kawasaki. Most teams don't allow that kind of thing.

Suzuki is one of the few examples of letting riders use other sponsors, RC and monster, JS with Renthal, Metcalf and Parts Unlimited. etc.

The Honda deal was an apparel deal, that's why they required riders to wear a fox logo on their team shirts.

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Kartwheel84c 5/25/2012 5:12pm
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I'm pretty sure those Pro Taper bars (the only time he didnt use Renthals) are what caused McGrath to do so bad on the Suzuki that one year...

This is really simple folks. JS7 is not under contract, he can wear anything he wants or use any part he wants. Like has been noted, see what happens when he actually goes under contract. Even then, he will still have Renthal bars, just with Pro Taper stickers and bar pads. I guarantee you, as long as he is winning, Suzuki will let him use anything he wants, contract or not.
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Dano39 5/25/2012 5:14pm
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I have to ask... does it really fuggin' matter?!

Nobody has to be pissed off at anybody... nobody's disrespecting anybody either and... nobody's being disloyal! Except in the minds of the bitches who put everything under a freakin' microscope and talk shit about it to DEATH!

For whatever reason, and probably discussed by James with his sponsor's, he's using Renthal's, Big deal!
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IceMan446 5/25/2012 5:28pm
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FGR01 wrote:
From Racerhead: Some pit scuttlebutt that had people talking was the use of Renthal bars by James Stewart on the Yoshimura Suzuki team when the team...
From Racerhead:

Some pit scuttlebutt that had people talking was the use of Renthal bars by James Stewart on the Yoshimura Suzuki team when the team is supported by Pro Taper. Plenty of talk about how Pro Taper is definitely not happy about this (and I checked with them and they’re not) and how James wears Answer gear which is owned by Tucker Rocky, the same company that owns Pro Taper. The deal is PT didn’t make a bar that made Stewart happy (he’s been a long-time Renthal guy) and that he asked if he could use them. Obviously Suzuki said yes and here we are. Weird deal for sure but I suppose Suzuki’s stance is that James (or a second rider) isn’t listed on the contract that Suzuki signed so maybe this is a technicality. I don’t know for sure, just spit-balling here but it’s got people talking.
There you go.

End of discussion. James can do what he wants since he is NOT a Suzuki rider at the moment. Suzuki has its contracts, and its for one rider, not two.

And does it matter? No, in the long run Suzuki doesn't care. They are getting all the press they need and they aren't even paying James to ride the bike!
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bobby397 5/25/2012 5:56pm
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Boarddesign wrote:
Who cares! Man that bike looks good with those RED backrounds! Haters, get used to them!
Rizzo wrote:
Bike doesn't look any different than when RC and Dungey rode it.
forgot reed and alessi......
bradmx421 5/25/2012 5:58pm
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shocked no one has mentioned he is also running Vortex sprockets
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Boarddesign 5/25/2012 6:18pm
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Boarddesign wrote:
Who cares! Man that bike looks good with those RED backrounds! Haters, get used to them!
Rizzo wrote:
Bike doesn't look any different than when RC and Dungey rode it.
bobby397 wrote:
forgot reed and alessi......
Uhh... I does look different....

It's going a LOT faster!!!
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TeamGreen 5/25/2012 6:21pm
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Funny.

The Retarded shit some of you can invent.

James has his own Equipment deals: He WASN'T/Isn't part of the deal (& riders) that the Team's sponsors negotiated for.

Renthal, being a true class-act of a company, even offered James "concessions" if needed to prevent him from having any problems...

HE stayed true to his sponsors.

Yet, some of you come in here & talk shit.

What a bunch of Ass-Holes.
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dak446 5/25/2012 6:21pm
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Boarddesign wrote:
Who cares! Man that bike looks good with those RED backrounds! Haters, get used to them!
Rizzo wrote:
Bike doesn't look any different than when RC and Dungey rode it.
Cool story, BRO
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FGR01 5/25/2012 6:28pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
Funny. The Retarded shit some of you can invent. James has his own Equipment deals: He WASN'T/Isn't part of the deal (& riders) that the Team's...
Funny.

The Retarded shit some of you can invent.

James has his own Equipment deals: He WASN'T/Isn't part of the deal (& riders) that the Team's sponsors negotiated for.

Renthal, being a true class-act of a company, even offered James "concessions" if needed to prevent him from having any problems...

HE stayed true to his sponsors.

Yet, some of you come in here & talk shit.

What a bunch of Ass-Holes.
Who is the asshole that is talking shit that you are referring to?
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Faceaz 5/25/2012 6:32pm
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I would bet ProTapers sponsorship is for a one rider team. Their support probably does not extend to a 2nd rider, giving Suzuki some options.
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PJ205 5/25/2012 6:45pm
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Seriously? Who cares?
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FGR01 5/25/2012 7:12pm
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Faceaz wrote:
I would bet ProTapers sponsorship is for a one rider team. Their support probably does not extend to a 2nd rider, giving Suzuki some options.
That's what it sounds like from the Racerhead quote. Suzuki is probably exploiting a technicality in their contract with Pro-Taper. So, they might be legal according to the "letter" of the contract, but not the "spirit" of the contract and that is why Pro Taper is upset.
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TP13 5/25/2012 7:28pm
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kongols wrote:
Stewart doesn`t have a contract for this summer.
FGR01 wrote:
He might not have a contract with Suzuki but I bet Suzuki has a contract with Pro Taper. I have never seen a team mix and...
He might not have a contract with Suzuki but I bet Suzuki has a contract with Pro Taper.

I have never seen a team mix and match bars (or any major supplied part) for different riders before.

This reminds me of when RC paid a fine to wear Fox when Pro Circuit had a contract with AXO.
Kevin Windham with Tag Metals?
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Sherwood 5/25/2012 7:48pm
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Faceaz wrote:
I would bet ProTapers sponsorship is for a one rider team. Their support probably does not extend to a 2nd rider, giving Suzuki some options.
FGR01 wrote:
That's what it sounds like from the Racerhead quote. Suzuki is probably exploiting a technicality in their contract with Pro-Taper. So, they might be legal according...
That's what it sounds like from the Racerhead quote. Suzuki is probably exploiting a technicality in their contract with Pro-Taper. So, they might be legal according to the "letter" of the contract, but not the "spirit" of the contract and that is why Pro Taper is upset.
Sounds like you have a bone to pick...

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sam111 5/25/2012 8:35pm
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FGR01 wrote:
From Racerhead: Some pit scuttlebutt that had people talking was the use of Renthal bars by James Stewart on the Yoshimura Suzuki team when the team...
From Racerhead:

Some pit scuttlebutt that had people talking was the use of Renthal bars by James Stewart on the Yoshimura Suzuki team when the team is supported by Pro Taper. Plenty of talk about how Pro Taper is definitely not happy about this (and I checked with them and they’re not) and how James wears Answer gear which is owned by Tucker Rocky, the same company that owns Pro Taper. The deal is PT didn’t make a bar that made Stewart happy (he’s been a long-time Renthal guy) and that he asked if he could use them. Obviously Suzuki said yes and here we are. Weird deal for sure but I suppose Suzuki’s stance is that James (or a second rider) isn’t listed on the contract that Suzuki signed so maybe this is a technicality. I don’t know for sure, just spit-balling here but it’s got people talking.
James used Tag bars in 2009, 2010 and 2011.

I am also surprised they don't just put a ProTaper pad on the Renthal bars.
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dboivin 5/25/2012 8:35pm
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if pro-taper is pissed enough about it, they will go offer JS $$$'s to use pro-taper. its pretty obvious renthal has a deal with james. and its pretty obvious suzuki isn't gonna let that get in the way of him riding their bikes. sheesh.
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FGR01 5/25/2012 8:36pm
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Faceaz wrote:
I would bet ProTapers sponsorship is for a one rider team. Their support probably does not extend to a 2nd rider, giving Suzuki some options.
FGR01 wrote:
That's what it sounds like from the Racerhead quote. Suzuki is probably exploiting a technicality in their contract with Pro-Taper. So, they might be legal according...
That's what it sounds like from the Racerhead quote. Suzuki is probably exploiting a technicality in their contract with Pro-Taper. So, they might be legal according to the "letter" of the contract, but not the "spirit" of the contract and that is why Pro Taper is upset.
Sherwood wrote:
Sounds like you have a bone to pick...
Not at all. Just wondering why you've got two riders on the same team using different brands of bars. It is not what we are used to seeing.
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sam111 5/25/2012 8:40pm
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Rizzo wrote:
Bike doesn't look any different than when RC and Dungey rode it.
RC never raced the current generation fuel injected bike during his professional career, so it is completely different. Dungey rode the bike last year and the year before - what do you expect them to have changed. It's just that Suzuki hasn't changed the look of the bike since 2008 and hasn't updated the bike much since the 2010 model came out.
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redrider52 5/25/2012 8:46pm
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JS7 can do whatever the hell he wants.If he wants to run different equipment than what the team is contractually obligated to use, then so be it (Pro Taper/Renthal, Pirelli/Dunlop). If he doesn't like the bike he signed a multi-year contract to ride, he can walk away regardless of what the contract says..... Much respect was loss because of the JGR deal
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sam111 5/25/2012 8:48pm
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Sherwood wrote:
Carmichal was with Monster while Suzuki was with Rockstar or am I mistaken?
RC rode for "Makita Suzuki" from 2005-2007. The team became "Rockstar Makita Suzuki" from the beginning of 2008, after Carmichael's retirement.

Didn't James Stewart have to drop RedBull as a personal sponsor in 2008, when Monster began sponsoring the Kawasaki team he was riding for? I think that was one of the reasons he left.
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redrider52 5/25/2012 8:59pm
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Sherwood wrote:
Carmichal was with Monster while Suzuki was with Rockstar or am I mistaken?
sam111 wrote:
RC rode for "Makita Suzuki" from 2005-2007. The team became "Rockstar Makita Suzuki" from the beginning of 2008, after Carmichael's retirement. Didn't James Stewart have to...
RC rode for "Makita Suzuki" from 2005-2007. The team became "Rockstar Makita Suzuki" from the beginning of 2008, after Carmichael's retirement.

Didn't James Stewart have to drop RedBull as a personal sponsor in 2008, when Monster began sponsoring the Kawasaki team he was riding for? I think that was one of the reasons he left.
This was before the 08 season started and notice his lower back....been doing this sorta thing for years

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dak446 5/25/2012 9:13pm
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redrider52 wrote:
This was before the 08 season started and notice his lower back....been doing this sorta thing for years [img]http://www.mxlarge.com/storage/Image/James%20Stewart.jpg[/img]
This was before the 08 season started and notice his lower back....been doing this sorta thing for years

Your trolling is horrible. Go back to the drawing board, BRO
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redrider52 wrote:
JS7 can do whatever the hell he wants.If he wants to run different equipment than what the team is contractually obligated to use, then so be...
JS7 can do whatever the hell he wants.If he wants to run different equipment than what the team is contractually obligated to use, then so be it (Pro Taper/Renthal, Pirelli/Dunlop). If he doesn't like the bike he signed a multi-year contract to ride, he can walk away regardless of what the contract says..... Much respect was loss because of the JGR deal
I doubt he cares at all that you lost respect for him, but consider that it was a mutual split, If JGR had wanted to enforce their contract he would have stayed. They wanted and were paying for a championship and James pretty much told them he didn't feel comfortable enough on that bike to go fast enough to win the championship, but he didn't want to collect their millions for him to be a top 5 rider.

He didn't "walk away." He gave them an option. They accepted.
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Crush 5/26/2012 1:35am
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Long time Renthal guys?!?!

I swear L&M used Tag bars...
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kongols 5/26/2012 1:45am
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Crush wrote:
Long time Renthal guys?!?!

I swear L&M used Tag bars...
That`s why he went back to Renthal, LOL
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FGR01 wrote:
That's what it sounds like from the Racerhead quote. Suzuki is probably exploiting a technicality in their contract with Pro-Taper. So, they might be legal according...
That's what it sounds like from the Racerhead quote. Suzuki is probably exploiting a technicality in their contract with Pro-Taper. So, they might be legal according to the "letter" of the contract, but not the "spirit" of the contract and that is why Pro Taper is upset.
Sherwood wrote:
Sounds like you have a bone to pick...
FGR01 wrote:
Not at all. Just wondering why you've got two riders on the same team using different brands of bars. It is not what we are used...
Not at all. Just wondering why you've got two riders on the same team using different brands of bars. It is not what we are used to seeing.
Hey wait a min... don't you have like 8 bikes in your garage with pro taper bars and then renthal grips on your harley!?

Expect to be getting a call from TR soon...

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