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I disagree about suing the flagger part. That kind of shit can shut a track down. However, when you sign a waiver to race, it doesn't release the track from negligence, and this was gross negligence.
I hope the kid is insured, if not, the track needs to step up and pay those bill.
At thunder valley about 5 years, they used to have a double before the gullys that was pretty deep and when I came over it, a kid on his 80 was still rolling out of it. Not knowing if I was going to land on top of him, I decided to throw the bike away as hard as I could another direct and ejected on to my knees and then bounce or rolled out of it. Nothing broke, but alot pain and bruise knees. My knee pads were severly cracked and had to have someone dirve me off the track. Well I missed the kid, but these backside surprises scare the hell out of me, I would scream like that too. This is definitely a freak accident, glad to here the rider is going to be o.k.
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Now full disclosure.
This wasn't one of my events but I was there, about 100' away
I didn't see it happen, but saw the after affects.
I know the rider and hate that something like this happened to him. He has not been able to showcase his true ability at Loretta's and other national events because of a broken femur and other injuries in the last couple of years and all of us that know and follow his racing were hoping this would be the year he could break out.
I have known and had dealings with Robby Neeley for at least 20 years.
I also know the flagger. He has flagged many events over the last several years.
He is a good guy that I would like to believe simply lost track of where the leaders were while going back across the track after helping a rider or removing something from the track. He was in a blind spot where the view of uncoming riders is a little limited.
You can tell that this didn't happen on the first lap, and there was another class out there on a stagger start.
There are bikes all around on all sides with many areas where the bikes are going away from his position, so telling where the leaders are from the sound is pretty hard.
Please realize that I am not making excuses, but when I see posts like BD49's and several other vital members a couple of hours after seeing a guy that I know laid out looking like news footage that you see of somebody in a vegatative state, I find responses like those disgusting and hope that at some point they realize how big a jerk they appear to be.
I hope everyone involved gets healed up soon.
JustMx......sorry for my initial post, but hearing that kid scream literally sent chills up my spine.
I'm certainly not perfect and have made a series of mistakes in my life and really the only thing you can do or say in those instances is say, "I'm sorry," and hope that everyone forgives you and most of the time they do. I can't even begin to imagine how terrible the flagger feels for the injury he caused to this kid.
As far as the flagger goes, I hope that he heals up quick and has no lingering injuries from such an impact.
Sorry for again for typing immediately after seeing that video.
I appreciate you being open to look at it from a different perspective and hope that some others involved in this discussion will do the same.
Okay, with that important business out of the way...
IF you're going to cross the track, make sure you do it in a spot where you can see oncoming traffic.
Pit Row
Small local track owners have a hard time finding quality flag people.
The other option is to not hire them and force every riders that races to flag for the other classes. That way you don't have inexperienced people on the track.
As I've matured I realized that there is no value to being a dick 24/7. Back then I had a couple of thousand posts in a short time.
Having said that, you wouldn't believe the amount of stuff that I type out in a replies, then re-read it and ask myself, "how does saying this add any value to what is being discussed." Then I delete it and keep reading.
Sometimes, though, I just can't help myself.
Didn't realize there were still bikes on the track....
Couldn't hear them coming...
Whatever, whatever, whatever.
NEVER CROSS THE TRACK ON THE BACKSIDE OF A BLIND JUMP !!!!!! EVER!!!!! (or enter or exit the track behind a blind jump if you are a rider) It's kinda like a gun. Always assume it is loaded and treat it as such. Always assume a bike may come flying over a blind jump.
It's common sense and should be more than common sense for anyone who has even a remote inkling of MX knowledge or spends time at the MX track flagging or whatever.
Was it Robbie Reynard a few years ago at Mt Morris that nailed a bulldozer or tractor during practice. Idiot was crossing the track behind a blind jump. Should he have just chalked that up as "oh well, it's MX, things happen."
Or local track owners could pay a yearly salary to these people to bring them band an be professionals, then the cost of each race could go up 100 dollars.per race, then you would have hired professionals to do the work (and they can still make mistakes)
Having sympathy, even on dumb people is what sets humans apart from lower level beings.
With that said, I hope the kid heals up quickly and is back at it next year..
P.S. Just for clarification... This is AL Lane Yamaha in Iron Station, NC... Just on the outskirts of Lincolnton.
I completely apologize for using this word in regard to this, and any incident involving motorsports, and also apologize for everyone that this may have offended. This action is certainly not the attitude or view of this site, and this site does not necessarily adopt or endorse the views or opinions of it's posters. The incident involving a sanctioned and experienced flagger walking in front of a racer is an incident that is under investigation and is being reviewed by the owners and operators of the parties involved.
All attempts to portray this flagger as anything other than completely honorable, or justifiable in his actions is unwarranted and will not be tolerated.
Let's also remember that he is only a volunteer, who is doing the best he can. I know the kid got some broken bones, but how do we know it was the flagger that caused this? Maybe the kid turned around in midair, or the bike got away from him and the flagger was looking at him about to wreck? How do we know the flagger didn't injure himself by turning his head real quick to look at the kid and wonder what he could do to help? In fact, maybe he saw that the kid was about to wreck and was walking over to help where he thought he would wreck, or to try and prevent the wreck?
Either way, the flagger went above and beyond to try and help this racer, who shouldn't have been on the track since he was obviously a danger to himself and the flagger. I'm just thankful the flagger wasn't seriously injured.
After I thought about it and read JustMx's posting I realized that his physical injuries probably don't hurt nearly as much as his heart is hurting after what he cost this kid, in not only physical pain, but also his LL dream.
Beyond that, I still fling poo.....
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