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If they can work out some kind of group rate, that'd be even better. But no insurance coverage? No race.
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part of the cost of racing is INSURANCE.
1 thing a Riders union could do is have a say about dangerous tracks
The main group of riders from #8 or so on down to top #40 riders that show up to qualify to SX or MX need to form a cartel. With the right plan and the right leader it could happen. Ideally that leader is a past champion or even a current top #1-7 rider willing to stick his neck out on this deal... the leverage of them as a "cartel" in ultimately "deciding" what races they will or wont do, at the 11th hour, will potentially get Feld (SX with a full stadium and the pressure of live TV to deliver a race show) to consider the alternative bargain request: To raise ticket prices 1-3 bucks per ticket at all following rounds or the Cartel will continue to undermine the night show moments before live TV, and then put 100% of that money into a fund for group coverage and rider pension to be paid out based on making the night show in some sort of fair order. The more years you race and make the night show the larger your pension is, all the while you have coverage. Then, if an individual rider wants to have their own policy for "added coverage" thats their biz. BOOM! haha
1. It increases the cost of the insurance.
2. That cost is passed on to the consumer in the form of higher premiums.
3. The consumer looks for cheaper insurance.
4. Those who do not insure preexisting conditions and high risk will be lower cost to the consumer.
5. Consumer switches to cheaper insurance.
6. Company now does not insure preexisting condition or high risk to compete.
In short insurance companies don't want to partner with high risk groups unless they can make a lot of money doing it meaning, the costs will be quite high. So you can say goodbye to "affordable" insurance. Even most large corporate companies have exclusions in the policy that excludes racing, equestrian, and other dangerous sports.
Gov steps in and makes laws about preexisting and high risk.
People who do not have preexisting or participate in high risk sports feel that why should they have to pay for people who break bones racing motocross, sportbike, horses, bicyclist, etc. I agree with them. So if you race motocross even at a non pro level, you are going to have to pay a LOT MORE for insurance
But liberals and communists/socialists believe in the redistribution of wealth. They want to force you to do what they want by taking your money to pay for others. Just like the original poster wants to do. (If in a democracy, a majority agree that all insurance companies should accept preexisting conditions and high risk groups knowing it will cost consumers more money, so be it.)
You have choices right now. Don't race, don't have insurance, self insure, buy health insurance.
Dictating to you that you must purchase insurance (from a gov level) forces you to pay whether you race or not, need it or not, do drugs motorsports activities, racing, dangerous activities that destroy your body and cause a burden to others or not,
If the riders want a union, that is fine, but if the cost of an SX ticket doubles because of a riders union, I won't be going. That is how capitalism works, You have choices, socialism takes all your choices away and give them to gov.
I am glad gov doesn't control the AMA/promoters/riders/sponsors and they can work it out for themselves.
Creating a rider insurance program, all for it! Shoot, the lowest cost option might be the AMA employing a group of doctors, PT's, and surgeons.
That would cut out the insurance middle man but if it was cost effective, wouldn't corporations be doing that?
This ain't about unions: It's about RESPONSIBILITY.
Period.
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TeamGreen.....well put good sir. I find it hard to refrain from smart-assery, which obviously convolutes my message. I like your style; deliver the point. BOOM!
We don't need a Union, WWR is going to fix all the sport's ills. Oh wait, that was ten years ago.........
Just looking at it like that - I could be way off though.
Who the fuck do you think is stopping these guys from buying their own insurance?? Oh...of course......GW Bush!!
I knew it.
These guys aren't employee's. They don't need a union. They need to take some of their money and buy an insurance policy. Along with putting some money away to support themselves if (when!!) they get injured and can't ride/work/whatever for a living.
Obama.....of course. Obama money......
No wonder this country is so fucked up. Half the posters in this thread think it's somebody else's responsibility to pay their fucking bills.....
But nooooooooooooooooo, it's socialism when funding health, but capitalism when funding army? Did I get the last thing part right? It's very confusing...
Two-time champion Dario Franchitti, IRL and ChampCar veteran Tony Kanaan, and F1 and IndyCar driver Justin Wilson will head a newly-created IndyCar drivers’ association, which was formally announced for the first time today.
The Drivers' Assocaition, similar to the Formula 1 Drivers' Association and the now-defunct Championship Drivers Association, will give drivers a unified voice to help the series management determine safety and competition regulations.
more HERE
I envision something like SMRSC (SX/MX Racers Safety Committee) and loosely focus on things like the above mentioned "Associations" focus on. "give drivers (riders) a unified voice to help the series management determine safety and competition regulations"
It could work if done right, and with the right people to head it.
New IndyCar Series drivers union talks up track safety
The Izod IndyCar Series drivers recently formed an association that is vowing to advise the series and its tracks on a breadth of topics from safety to competition to media strategy. Tony Kanaan, Justin Wilson and Dario Franchitti were voted the group's leaders in a meeting before the Mid-Ohio race two weeks ago.
"It's a good idea to have a voice and be more professional and unified," Danica Patrick said last weekend before running the NASCAR Nationwide race at Michigan. "If there's a guardrail or a runoff that doesn't look safe, we're risking it, so we want something changed. So (it's) a drivers union kind of thing." more HERE
Buying Lambo's and shit aint gonna help ya ofc.
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