Barcia - How Was Your Weekend

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4/2/2012 1:36pm
Racer92 wrote:
A few crocodile tears and you are cool with things? Is that how you raised your kids? That stuff he did was completely off the hook...
A few crocodile tears and you are cool with things? Is that how you raised your kids? That stuff he did was completely off the hook bullshit. No excuse for that kinda nonsense while the Medics are treating a injured rider. This generation of spoiled moto brats need rules & structure or they will turn into shitty adults. (Do we really need more rolled rental cars?) And in the real world when you screw up, you pay the price, not cry a little and youre off the hook. Try that crap with the Popo or a District Judge sometime.

My son knew if he screwed up his ass was in the sling, period. You do the crime, you do the time.
It wasn't the tears that impressed me. Nor will I attempt to defend his actions. Like you, my kids always knew that dealing with Dad would be more difficult than anybody else. If you look elsewhere at my other postings you will see that I would have been harsher than the AMA ever was. With that said, they gave the punishment that they felt appropriate. So he will have to do the time, so to speak. I was more evaluating his comments and body language than a few tears. He also isn't running from his actions (he is on pulmx tonight). Its just my humble opinion, that he grew up. I for one am willing to move on and give him the benefit of the doubt that he will get it right in the future. Kind of brings to mind an old expression. "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water". I think that rule applies in this case at this point in time. Future behavior obviously could dictate a different result.

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4/2/2012 1:50pm
I think Barcia is sincerely sorry for the entire situation. He shows that. Regardless of Vincent's not pulling over, he was the one that made the mistake of roosting Roczen and Bodner/Vincent. Now he has recived the concequnces of that action. Everyone makes mistakes, he has owned up to his. I think he will mature as a rider and person from all of this.

Good job Justin!
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4/2/2012 2:12pm
Barcia is unprofessional and dangerous.
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4/2/2012 2:17pm
LowPsi wrote:
Barcia is unprofessional and dangerous.
That's what they said about Maverik in Top Gun...now he's an instructor there. (What is up with this world?)

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4/2/2012 2:23pm
LowPsi wrote:
Barcia is unprofessional and dangerous.
Titan1 wrote:
That's what they said about Maverik in Top Gun...now he's an instructor there. (What is up with this world?)
yeah but Goose died, bro. Goose fucking died. and now, i'm Tom Cruise.

think about that for a minute and get back to me.
4/2/2012 4:22pm
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4/2/2012 4:29pm
dunno why he felt compelled to get on the rev limiter and roost the sh*t out of roczen right after the finish. kenny didnt do anything except pass him when he was down
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4/2/2012 4:38pm
Titan1 wrote:
I just don't understand why Vincent did just get out of the way? Barcia was behind him for like 5 corners, blue flags waving the entire...
I just don't understand why Vincent did just get out of the way? Barcia was behind him for like 5 corners, blue flags waving the entire time...Vincent should have just gotten out of the way like he was supposed too.

The only thing I can think of that would be going through Vincents head was that he wanted to stay on the lead lap so he had one more lap to make up some positions....but even that is no excuse.
gt80rider wrote:
Whos to say vincent riding like that wasnt payback for something we dont know about... I doubt it, but if so barcia got paid back in...
Whos to say vincent riding like that wasnt payback for something we dont know about... I doubt it, but if so barcia got paid back in full plus some by losing the race....
Actually, we were watching the Toronto practice and did see Barcia yelling at Vincint for slowing him up in the corner after the whoops. It was really weird as Barcia came up on Vincent and followed him, Vincent followd the natural line to the inside and squeezed him in, then Barcia started yelling at him ?? Vincent yelled back and off they went.
We were totally thinking something was going to happen in Toronto as Barcia did lap him in the main, but he just let him bye....
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4/2/2012 4:39pm
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Exactly I don't see what the point of him crying was. It didnt affect the championship. He's 1e two years in a row.
4/2/2012 4:40pm Edited Date/Time 4/2/2012 4:41pm
Titan1 wrote:
I just don't understand why Vincent did just get out of the way? Barcia was behind him for like 5 corners, blue flags waving the entire...
I just don't understand why Vincent did just get out of the way? Barcia was behind him for like 5 corners, blue flags waving the entire time...Vincent should have just gotten out of the way like he was supposed too.

The only thing I can think of that would be going through Vincents head was that he wanted to stay on the lead lap so he had one more lap to make up some positions....but even that is no excuse.
Well it's obvious you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
peelout wrote:
what the fuck are you on about?? home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the...
what the fuck are you on about??

home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the inside of the double to the outside of the corner and takes them both out... and somehow that's supposed to be Barcia's fault?

you're sniffing the good shit, i see
Homeboy was racing for a position, you guys complain when riders aren't trying on the last lap, there you fucking go.
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4/2/2012 4:55pm
Well it's obvious you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
peelout wrote:
what the fuck are you on about?? home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the...
what the fuck are you on about??

home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the inside of the double to the outside of the corner and takes them both out... and somehow that's supposed to be Barcia's fault?

you're sniffing the good shit, i see
Homeboy was racing for a position, you guys complain when riders aren't trying on the last lap, there you fucking go.
Who was he racing? He was essentially all by himself (besides Barcia)...When he's battling with the leader, he's not battling for position....he's getting in the way.
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4/2/2012 5:47pm
was it Daytona where he passed a lapper in his qualifier looked over at him jumped in front of the rider roosted the shit out of...
was it Daytona where he passed a lapper in his qualifier looked over at him jumped in front of the rider roosted the shit out of him then moved back to his line and kept going. i never liked him B4 but that move sealed it.
I enjoy amateur motocross almost as much as I do watching the pros so I have watched Barcia since he was a kid on CR85s and I have had the same feelings about him as you do. Even as a pro I have watched him pull so many stupid and uncalled for "stunts" that it has sealed the deal for me also.
I wonder if Vincent had stood up and came at him if he would have ran away like a little girl like he did in Bercy?Laughing

The only thing good about him getting a $5000 fine is that it goes to a good cause.
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4/2/2012 6:42pm
dkg wrote:
wow, a ton of maturing done by a young man in a very short time. His video was sincere, I am sure that he is punishing...
wow, a ton of maturing done by a young man in a very short time. His video was sincere, I am sure that he is punishing himself more than our comments are. I am satisfied with the end result and most importantly in my eyes he took it like a man, is learing from it. I am over this issue, there are bigger fish to fry, maybe another round of 2-stroke vs 4-stroke debates. lol
Racer92 wrote:
A few crocodile tears and you are cool with things? Is that how you raised your kids? That stuff he did was completely off the hook...
A few crocodile tears and you are cool with things? Is that how you raised your kids? That stuff he did was completely off the hook bullshit. No excuse for that kinda nonsense while the Medics are treating a injured rider. This generation of spoiled moto brats need rules & structure or they will turn into shitty adults. (Do we really need more rolled rental cars?) And in the real world when you screw up, you pay the price, not cry a little and youre off the hook. Try that crap with the Popo or a District Judge sometime.

My son knew if he screwed up his ass was in the sling, period. You do the crime, you do the time.
This

What he did to KR was childish, but what he done to Vincent and the Medics is totally unacceptable.
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4/2/2012 6:56pm
Barcia will be the next James, if he lives through it, by not hurting himself with his stupid moves, or having some one he pulled a dirty move on kick his but for him. He has a good chance of missing a race, by getting his ass kicked by a privateer. They have nothing to lose. He will win races, but he will have problems. He already has previous fans that don't like him now. He has fans that like him also. But in my opinion, he is just getting more dangerous. He can pass those lappers anytime he wants, cleanly, but he screws with them. Sometimes they get hurt. There is no need. When you are going for it with the top guys, it's different. But when you screw with them, you're just an arrogant asshole. Ever see Windam or Ricky do that shit? I was a Barcia fan. My son raced with him on 80's. I'm glad he didn't perfect his dirty tactics back then or my son would have kicked his ass. Watched him over the years and pulled for him, but not now. I believe his intention was payback for the other guy getting in his way, and it bit him on the ass instead. When you are that far ahead, you shouldn't be screwing with people that shouldn't even be there in the first place. James pulled the same stuff,and look at him. The Barcia regime I suspect may be short lived. I for one, as a former fan, am not a fan anymore. And about his apology, he would have been better off not to have it filmed and shown on the web. An apology while laughing does not seem sincere to me.
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4/3/2012 6:01am
Titan1 wrote:
I just don't understand why Vincent did just get out of the way? Barcia was behind him for like 5 corners, blue flags waving the entire...
I just don't understand why Vincent did just get out of the way? Barcia was behind him for like 5 corners, blue flags waving the entire time...Vincent should have just gotten out of the way like he was supposed too.

The only thing I can think of that would be going through Vincents head was that he wanted to stay on the lead lap so he had one more lap to make up some positions....but even that is no excuse.
Well it's obvious you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
peelout wrote:
what the fuck are you on about?? home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the...
what the fuck are you on about??

home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the inside of the double to the outside of the corner and takes them both out... and somehow that's supposed to be Barcia's fault?

you're sniffing the good shit, i see
I agree. Vincent needs to stay out of the way. Barcia was in the race line, and Vincent went from the inside to the outside and clipped him. Big mistake on Vincent's part IMO, but Barcia let his emotions get the best of him. I'm sure he really is regretting it now, and he will learn from it.
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4/3/2012 6:28am
NoGo wrote:
Exactly I don't see what the point of him crying was. It didnt affect the championship. He's 1e two years in a row.
Unless he does a Tomac in the whoops...

Its Barcia's title to lose of course and he has been dominant, but he's gotten a little squirly a few times too.
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4/3/2012 7:16am
Good to see him remorseful about the situation. I'm still a fan.
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4/3/2012 7:31am
Of you're lapping someone, you should be able to get around them cleanly and pull away. Barcia made the pass then slowed up.

And Vincent was racing for position. There's a guy on a Yamaha a couple seconds ahead of him at the start of the Barcia/Vincent footage.

Barcia is pretty much the dirtiest, wildest rider out there. For him to bitch like that when it happens to him is hilarious. He needs to get the shit slapped out of him. Judging by KR and BBs reactions, they probably won't too scared of ole Barcia anymore.

Can't wait to boo the f*** out of Barcia in Vincent's home state.
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4/3/2012 7:40am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2012 7:42am
Well it's obvious you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
peelout wrote:
what the fuck are you on about?? home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the...
what the fuck are you on about??

home boy gets the blue flag numerous times, then jumps into the back of Barcia while jumping from the inside of the double to the outside of the corner and takes them both out... and somehow that's supposed to be Barcia's fault?

you're sniffing the good shit, i see
flyinb501 wrote:
I agree. Vincent needs to stay out of the way. Barcia was in the race line, and Vincent went from the inside to the outside and...
I agree. Vincent needs to stay out of the way. Barcia was in the race line, and Vincent went from the inside to the outside and clipped him. Big mistake on Vincent's part IMO, but Barcia let his emotions get the best of him. I'm sure he really is regretting it now, and he will learn from it.
Here is why I think you and Peely are wrong.

Vincent was out of the race line when Barcia went past him, and was trying to stay out of the race line. Barcia thought he was further ahead of Vincent then he was when he crossed over to the right, Vincent had nowhere to go. Even if Vincent had gone straight they would have come together since Barcia slowed to make the turn. Vincent had no options since Barcia crossed over while Vincent was committed to the double-I think Vincent turned left in an attempt to miss Barcia.

And, as Nielsen said above, Vincent WAS racing for position.
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4/3/2012 7:57am
He knew he messed up and apologized, good for him, he's still cool in my book.
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4/3/2012 8:29am
I've never been a big Barcia fan but he has owned it and apologized for it. So for me its over. He was wrong but he has done the adult thing now.
4/3/2012 8:49am
I thought he would mature after Bercy, but I knew after Daytona he's still the same. So this weekend doesn't surprise me actually ... This will not be the last time ...
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4/3/2012 8:51am
Douchebag wrote:
I thought he would mature after Bercy, but I knew after Daytona he's still the same. So this weekend doesn't surprise me actually ... This will...
I thought he would mature after Bercy, but I knew after Daytona he's still the same. So this weekend doesn't surprise me actually ... This will not be the last time ...
You know with a username like that, it's pretty much impossible to take anything you say seriously, right?
4/3/2012 9:30am
I thought it would fit well with some of the people around here?


PS : Interview with Barcia on racerx
"Anything else you want to add?
I’d like to just send a huge apology to the Asterisk guys, they take such good care of us. And also to my team. They’ve been huge with helping me out and understanding the situation and helping me work through it. We’re just going to try to come back at the races strong."

So he's doesn't care for Vincent! Great ...
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4/3/2012 9:53am
Barcia is a cry baby. He is a spoiled ass kid who doesnt have any regard for what the hell he is doing or who it effects.

Once the bully gets bullied, he will learn his lesson. Watch

Sad part is he is a hell of a rider and has a shot at some championships. But his piss poor attitude and poor sportsmanship will make folks think less of him.
4/3/2012 10:14am
Douchebag wrote:
I thought it would fit well with some of the people around here? PS : [url=http://www.racerxonline.com/2012/04/03/the-moment-barcia-interview]Interview with Barcia on racerx[/url] [i]"Anything else you want to add...
I thought it would fit well with some of the people around here?


PS : Interview with Barcia on racerx
"Anything else you want to add?
I’d like to just send a huge apology to the Asterisk guys, they take such good care of us. And also to my team. They’ve been huge with helping me out and understanding the situation and helping me work through it. We’re just going to try to come back at the races strong."

So he's doesn't care for Vincent! Great ...
Hey Douchebag, he probably didn't care too much about Vincent because Vincent caused it! I swear it's like most of the people on here have never rode or raced an MX bike.

Are you telling me that Vincent didn't know that the leader of the race who was lapping him was behind him for half a lap? You're being lapped get out of the way and don't slow the progress of the leader what so ever! In a 15 lap lights race that means that you are much, much slower then the leader!

I couldn't care less who won that race, but to critisize Barcia for loosing it after getting taken out by a lapper who was holding him up for half a lap is lame. He reacted unprofessional and unacceptable for sure and rightly appologized for doing so, but the one at fault and who should also appologize is Vincent. He is not without fault by any stretch! Half a lap WTF?
4/3/2012 10:14am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2012 10:17am
Racer92 wrote:
A few crocodile tears and you are cool with things? Is that how you raised your kids? That stuff he did was completely off the hook...
A few crocodile tears and you are cool with things? Is that how you raised your kids? That stuff he did was completely off the hook bullshit. No excuse for that kinda nonsense while the Medics are treating a injured rider. This generation of spoiled moto brats need rules & structure or they will turn into shitty adults. (Do we really need more rolled rental cars?) And in the real world when you screw up, you pay the price, not cry a little and youre off the hook. Try that crap with the Popo or a District Judge sometime.

My son knew if he screwed up his ass was in the sling, period. You do the crime, you do the time.
The punishment should also fit the crime. In that regard, I think that the call for a lynching by some of the mob here is going a bit too far. What you call a spoiled brat mentality, others call getting caught in the heat of the moment with no intentions of endangering anyone else or an attitude of self-entitlement. It's all about perspective, after all, your kids look like spoiled brats compared to a child that does slave labor for only pennies a day and has to work 7 days a week. Why don't you toughen your kids up the next time they do something wrong, put them to work for little to nothing, and essentially make them your slaves? The answer is that you are a decent person, recognize harsh punishments are not needed to rid your children of their spoiled brat mentality, and can draw a line between a crime and its punishment. Barcia made a mistake, he recognized his mistake, he admitted that it was unprofessional, he apologized and he was fined for actions. That should be the end of it. But with some of you, it's not the end, you want more punishment. Who has the spoiled brat mentality now? It's those who can't accept Barcia's apology, and move on.

Now if Barcia does something along these lines again, I would probably be more inclined to agree that he needs to be penalized in greater force.
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4/3/2012 10:24am
Douchebag wrote:
I thought it would fit well with some of the people around here? PS : [url=http://www.racerxonline.com/2012/04/03/the-moment-barcia-interview]Interview with Barcia on racerx[/url] [i]"Anything else you want to add...
I thought it would fit well with some of the people around here?


PS : Interview with Barcia on racerx
"Anything else you want to add?
I’d like to just send a huge apology to the Asterisk guys, they take such good care of us. And also to my team. They’ve been huge with helping me out and understanding the situation and helping me work through it. We’re just going to try to come back at the races strong."

So he's doesn't care for Vincent! Great ...
How about being one of the smart guys?
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4/3/2012 10:25am
Big E wrote:
I think Barcia is sincerely sorry for the entire situation. He shows that. Regardless of Vincent's not pulling over, he was the one that made the...
I think Barcia is sincerely sorry for the entire situation. He shows that. Regardless of Vincent's not pulling over, he was the one that made the mistake of roosting Roczen and Bodner/Vincent. Now he has recived the concequnces of that action. Everyone makes mistakes, he has owned up to his. I think he will mature as a rider and person from all of this.

Good job Justin!
Right. I think the AMA is more capable of handling it (and they did) than the Kangaroo Court here.

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