TP199 vs. CR22

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Edited Date/Time 2/23/2012 8:12pm
sorry if this has been posted already.

2001 Sydney Supercross Masters Night 2 - 250 Final (Travis Pastrana and Chad Reed)

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MW19 2/22/2012 7:12pm
2/22/2012 7:12pm
Just saw this, I forgot how fast travis actually was at one time.
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EvanR127 2/22/2012 7:18pm
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Dam pastrana is a beast! See him rail those turns! Ah what could have been......

How old was chad at his first race here if he was 19 during this?
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jtomasik 2/22/2012 7:29pm
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Pastrana was Stewart-abilities only with even less personal adult self-supervision. Too bad he only lasted a few short seasons.

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Derpin' DJ 2/22/2012 7:46pm
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Man, pretty sure there was more people there than the entire 2011 SuperX series
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jndmx 2/22/2012 8:19pm
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Holy hell that jump into the corner at 2:25 was nuts.....flying block pass......lol.
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SwapperMX 2/22/2012 8:44pm
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EvanR127 wrote:
Dam pastrana is a beast! See him rail those turns! Ah what could have been...... How old was chad at his first race here if he...
Dam pastrana is a beast! See him rail those turns! Ah what could have been......

How old was chad at his first race here if he was 19 during this?
The second Chad turned 16, he was straight out of the juniors and straight onto a 250 two stroke, never giving any consideration to racing the 125 class. He made BIG waves in the industry by doing it, but was on the pace straight away.
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Jono 2/22/2012 9:13pm
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That race is so familiar, I think I was there.. If I wasn't then I watched it on TV.
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TDeath21 2/22/2012 11:13pm
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Pastrana had speed that's for sure. It would have been super interesting to see Pastrana in the 125 class for 3 years instead of 2. He would have went against either Stewart or Reed in the 02 SX season, and obviously both of them in the 02 MX season. I don't think he would have won any championships, but at certain races he would have definitely taken wins from them.
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SoCalMX70 2/23/2012 1:22am
2/23/2012 1:22am
I forgot how fast Pastrana's corner speed was... oh man and that stand-up style, always loved that.
Jamie_Munro 2/23/2012 4:12am
2/23/2012 4:12am
how composed was 199 when he got bumped in the corner and off the track near the start? no drama, nothin- man that was cool to see.
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zookrider62! 2/23/2012 5:44am
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what a crazy race, TP was flying but man was he sloppy. And that track had some huge jumps
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Temor a la Mancha 2/23/2012 5:57am
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Pastrana is the ultimate showman and an incredible athlete. He can do anything and he knows it and that's just fucking cool. Nothing was lost by Pastrana bowing out of motocross. He helped elevate the sport in a way no one else could.

Travis Pastrana is a household name. Chad Reed, James Stewart and Ryan Villapoto are not.
ManxMacca 2/23/2012 6:01am
2/23/2012 6:01am
Pastrana is a legend
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exsarg 2/23/2012 6:12am
2/23/2012 6:12am
agreed wuth all the pastrana comments. his style never changed. reeds style def evolved. fuck i hope he doesnt quit!!!!!
umagumadog 2/23/2012 6:23am
2/23/2012 6:23am
Pastrana definitely has some honey badger in him, he just don't give a fuck.
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hasko158 2/23/2012 7:02am
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His corner speed was insane!
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peelout 2/23/2012 8:33am
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Pastrana was and always will be one of my favorites

but Reed straight up bitch slapped everyone there... big time. amazing to see how far he's come in terms of riding style.

and those jumps were HUGE

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Graphite 2/23/2012 10:00am
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peelout wrote:
Pastrana was and always will be one of my favorites but Reed straight up bitch slapped everyone there... big time. amazing to see how far he's...
Pastrana was and always will be one of my favorites

but Reed straight up bitch slapped everyone there... big time. amazing to see how far he's come in terms of riding style.

and those jumps were HUGE
I agree on all counts.

The jumps were fucking HUGE.

Pastrana is FAST, absolutely FAST.

And Chad Reed is sooo smooth, even there.
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SPYGUY 2/23/2012 10:17am
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Notice how when Pastrana got bumped off the track he turned around and re-entered at the same spot where he exited?

Nowadays the riders just skip the entire section and re-enter at the next corner like nothing ever happened.
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Graphite 2/23/2012 10:20am
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SPYGUY wrote:
Notice how when Pastrana got bumped off the track he turned around and re-entered at the same spot where he exited? Nowadays the riders just skip...
Notice how when Pastrana got bumped off the track he turned around and re-entered at the same spot where he exited?

Nowadays the riders just skip the entire section and re-enter at the next corner like nothing ever happened.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but how can you say this without knowing the rules? that is, I'm assuming you and I both don't have the aussie indoor SX rule book in front of us. AMA rules may say reentering the track at a different point without gaining position is OK. While aussie rules may say you must reenter when you went out...
Crisp BRAAAP! 2/23/2012 10:23am
2/23/2012 10:23am
Chad's first block pass was exactly what Mookie tried to pull last weekend: started on the outside before squaring up inside and bouncing off the victim.

This race perfectly encapsulates Travis' career for me. Fast as hell but ending the race getting up like a heavyweight fighter after being knocked out. Like a super-concentrated JS7.
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SPYGUY 2/23/2012 10:35am
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SPYGUY wrote:
Notice how when Pastrana got bumped off the track he turned around and re-entered at the same spot where he exited? Nowadays the riders just skip...
Notice how when Pastrana got bumped off the track he turned around and re-entered at the same spot where he exited?

Nowadays the riders just skip the entire section and re-enter at the next corner like nothing ever happened.
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I understand the point you're trying to make, but how can you say this without knowing the rules? that is, I'm assuming you and I both...
I understand the point you're trying to make, but how can you say this without knowing the rules? that is, I'm assuming you and I both don't have the aussie indoor SX rule book in front of us. AMA rules may say reentering the track at a different point without gaining position is OK. While aussie rules may say you must reenter when you went out...
I also understand what you're saying, but I feel that the rule is written too vaguely.

Something to the affect of "as long as you don't gain a position". But what if you gain an advantage? Last year at one of the races Barcia went off the track in the whoops, pinned it on the side of the track and used the extra momentum he carried to pass a rider that had just exited the whoops.

I understand that you can't always re-enter the track where you exited, for safety reasons, but that doesn't mean you should be allowed to pin it beside the track going faster than if you had stayed on.
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Hando 2/23/2012 10:48am
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I remember was TP was still racing..seems like yesterday.

In retrospect though...had he kept racing he wouldn't be as succesful as he is today.

Pretty sure he makes more $$ than he would have ever did had he kept racing.

No denying he once had tremendous natural ability...
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tblazier 2/23/2012 12:03pm
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That was awesome. Such a bummer TP199 retires so early. I loved watching that kid rip.
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Falcon 2/23/2012 12:46pm
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Some of you guys may remember the hype surrounding Pastrana before he moved to 125s...

It's easy to forget when you are looking at his career in retrospect, but he had every team manager ready to sign him on a moment's notice. It was a widely-held belief that he would put Carmichael out to pasture very quickly.

Of course, riders mature, things change, and we never got to see TP's true potential. I have to agree with Hando, though: he's definitely a bigger star and making more money now than he would have had he stuck with MX.
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ocscottie 2/23/2012 1:00pm
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tblazier wrote:
That was awesome. Such a bummer TP199 retires so early. I loved watching that kid rip.
Yea Tony, that one really hurts, he is one guy that if he had lived up to his potential w/o the injuries he very well could of changed the game in a big way. (and he did even with them!)

If there is one guy i would of gladly donated my knees to, he is the one i would have! Hell i dont need them Blink
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FreshTopEnd 2/23/2012 1:26pm
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I don't think RC would have his perfect seasons if Travis had not gotten hurt and stayed focused on racing MX ("focus" not being a criticism there). But, then that would not have been TP.

Therein lies the difference between the two.
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jndmx 2/23/2012 1:30pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
I don't think RC would have his perfect seasons if Travis had not gotten hurt and stayed focused on racing MX ("focus" not being a criticism...
I don't think RC would have his perfect seasons if Travis had not gotten hurt and stayed focused on racing MX ("focus" not being a criticism there). But, then that would not have been TP.

Therein lies the difference between the two.
Brings up an interesting bench racing question;

Would Suzuki even have gone after RC if Travis had not gone the Freestyle route?
Travis was going to be their marquee guy from all appearances.
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Crush 2/23/2012 2:00pm
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umagumadog wrote:
Pastrana definitely has some honey badger in him, he just don't give a fuck.
Excellent!

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