Motocross is easy

shunter986 2/9/2012 8:12am
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It all depends on how much effort you put into every sport. Everybody has a little extra left in the tank. Whether it be running harder...
It all depends on how much effort you put into every sport. Everybody has a little extra left in the tank. Whether it be running harder and faster, punching harder, throwing faster etc, or riding harder. I do disagree however with the saying that mx is equivalent to running full sprint for 30 minutes as Emig said last weekend...running at a full all out sprint would redline you in about a minute probably
1 minute? It would redline me these days in a second but back when I was racing at lorettas and top am nationals I could run a full sprint for a mile. I would ride my road bike 15 miles or more 3 times a week on really hard hilly rides. My point being I still was no where near as prepared as a top professional motocross rider. Ryan villopoto could run full sprint for a long time my friend. The cardio these guys do is insane. These guys do closer to thirty mile road bike rides then ride motos and gym all packed into multiple days a week. If you have never raced at a top level in a 25 minute plus two lap race against 40 of the best riders in the country in 100 degree heat you dont even have a right to have a opinion in this thread. I say that not to be a dick. I say it because its true. I have come back from motos at lorettas so over heated that I would rip my gear off and sit under a cold shower in the motohome feeling like I might die. I can remeber one time in specific I took most my gear off on the way back to the motorhome and just leaned the bike against the motorhome and actually thought I might die if i didnt cool down. It hurts so bad at times you might actually cry. I grew up playing sports all my life and I remeber them being very fun. I cant remeber lotettas lyns motos in the 450 pro sport class ever being fun. That was a war! Riding and racing at a pro level are two different things. I could go ride a pracice track for hrs burning tanks a gas but the bottom line is when you have to push it for 30 minutes wide open with 40 of the nations best right on your ass its a whole new ball game.
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steveada 2/9/2012 8:47am
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Pro and typical amateur mx are 2 different beasts. 4- 5 lap races means 8-10 minutes riding. I mean, I had to give up curling when I got out of shape, and had no problem riding mx.
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SoCalMX70 2/9/2012 10:21am
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The 40 minute GP races I used to do at LACR when I was 16-17 were quite a pain... If I tried to do that now (if that track was still around Sad ) I'd need to get my ass in serious shape. Even only being 27, I don't have half the energy/endurance/cardio I had back then.

At the same time, I remember high school football being killer as well... I only imagine how it is in college and up. Sure the plays might be short and the breaks long, but those few seconds of play take A LOT out of you... Half of it is the strength you must exert (I was a defensive end), the other half is how much the contact takes out of you. Some hits you take just make you want to lay there for a few minutes to gather yourself, but you have to get up and push on. It wears you down quick.

Apples to oranges here.
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JW381 2/9/2012 6:32pm
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SoCalMX70 wrote:
The 40 minute GP races I used to do at LACR when I was 16-17 were quite a pain... If I tried to do that now...
The 40 minute GP races I used to do at LACR when I was 16-17 were quite a pain... If I tried to do that now (if that track was still around Sad ) I'd need to get my ass in serious shape. Even only being 27, I don't have half the energy/endurance/cardio I had back then.

At the same time, I remember high school football being killer as well... I only imagine how it is in college and up. Sure the plays might be short and the breaks long, but those few seconds of play take A LOT out of you... Half of it is the strength you must exert (I was a defensive end), the other half is how much the contact takes out of you. Some hits you take just make you want to lay there for a few minutes to gather yourself, but you have to get up and push on. It wears you down quick.

Apples to oranges here.
I think you pretty much just summed it up for me. Good stuff.

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1 minute? It would redline me these days in a second but back when I was racing at lorettas and top am nationals I could run...
1 minute? It would redline me these days in a second but back when I was racing at lorettas and top am nationals I could run a full sprint for a mile. I would ride my road bike 15 miles or more 3 times a week on really hard hilly rides. My point being I still was no where near as prepared as a top professional motocross rider. Ryan villopoto could run full sprint for a long time my friend. The cardio these guys do is insane. These guys do closer to thirty mile road bike rides then ride motos and gym all packed into multiple days a week. If you have never raced at a top level in a 25 minute plus two lap race against 40 of the best riders in the country in 100 degree heat you dont even have a right to have a opinion in this thread. I say that not to be a dick. I say it because its true. I have come back from motos at lorettas so over heated that I would rip my gear off and sit under a cold shower in the motohome feeling like I might die. I can remeber one time in specific I took most my gear off on the way back to the motorhome and just leaned the bike against the motorhome and actually thought I might die if i didnt cool down. It hurts so bad at times you might actually cry. I grew up playing sports all my life and I remeber them being very fun. I cant remeber lotettas lyns motos in the 450 pro sport class ever being fun. That was a war! Riding and racing at a pro level are two different things. I could go ride a pracice track for hrs burning tanks a gas but the bottom line is when you have to push it for 30 minutes wide open with 40 of the nations best right on your ass its a whole new ball game.
I stalled it with two laps to go in my first moto that started at 1:30pm. The regular temp was 103, I would not let the heat get to me so I kept pushing and passed a few more people. I dont remember the last lap or running into a truck on the way to the river. I took my gear off and jumped (fell) in. It took me an hour to cool down. That was the hardest thing I have ever done, BMT and running 8 miles a day with some asshole TI yelling at me about how much of a shit head I was had nothing on my LL experience.

Another thing that makes moto hard is you are scared to half to death for most of the race.
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easton 2/9/2012 7:34pm
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Done just about everysport there is and Boxing is the hardest to get inshape for. The biggest part is relaxing and breathing.

Wrestling went to 5 minute rounds years ago in Roma Greco and Freestyle, yet when i starting boxing in the military it humbled me on what i thought was fit.

When you train use a snorkel to breath throught this will help with body flex and lung recoop.
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ocscottie 2/9/2012 7:36pm
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Have you guys seen the hits that vid has racked up on youtube?? 93k!!
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WhipMeister 2/9/2012 7:43pm
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The cardio aspect of mx is as tough as any sport except for perhaps tour de france-level cyclists. Stick and ball sport players never see 200bpm for 40 minutes straight. Combine the risk factors and I think there is a solid argument for 'toughest'.
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Igy 2/9/2012 7:54pm
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Cool vid. But, can someone explain the sound during the slo-mo?
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Hank_Thrill 2/9/2012 7:59pm
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Pretty sure some of that video has been sped up from the original version.
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First of all I have never posted here before, but this post really got under my skin. I have been involved with the sport since 1972 and I held a professional license in the late '70's and raced into my mid 30's. My son won an amatuer national at Lake Whitney in the early2000's and raced professionally for several years and qualifiied for several night shows but missed making any mains. We owned, built, and ran a motocross track in Texas for almost 10 years. I owned and promomted an Arenacross series in Texas/New Mexico also. I'm not saying I'm and expert but....I have been around the block a time or two. Having said all that I am here to tell you that motocross/supercross is the most physically and mentally demanding sport on the planet, bar none! And it is damn sure not EASY! All sports require a great degree of natural ability but none to the degree of our sport! I am not sure how many professional football, baseball, basketball players, etc. there are in the U.S. but I guarantee there are a hell of a lot more than there are professional motocross riders. JW381 I don't think you have a clue. Motocross/Supercross at any level is far more difficult than any other sport at the same level! Sorry for the rant but I feel a little better now!
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JW381 2/9/2012 8:57pm
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First of all I have never posted here before, but this post really got under my skin. I have been involved with the sport since 1972...
First of all I have never posted here before, but this post really got under my skin. I have been involved with the sport since 1972 and I held a professional license in the late '70's and raced into my mid 30's. My son won an amatuer national at Lake Whitney in the early2000's and raced professionally for several years and qualifiied for several night shows but missed making any mains. We owned, built, and ran a motocross track in Texas for almost 10 years. I owned and promomted an Arenacross series in Texas/New Mexico also. I'm not saying I'm and expert but....I have been around the block a time or two. Having said all that I am here to tell you that motocross/supercross is the most physically and mentally demanding sport on the planet, bar none! And it is damn sure not EASY! All sports require a great degree of natural ability but none to the degree of our sport! I am not sure how many professional football, baseball, basketball players, etc. there are in the U.S. but I guarantee there are a hell of a lot more than there are professional motocross riders. JW381 I don't think you have a clue. Motocross/Supercross at any level is far more difficult than any other sport at the same level! Sorry for the rant but I feel a little better now!
You are missing my point, as well as misinterpreting the thread title, which is obviously sarcastic.
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Baseball is the hardest sport in the universe, in all aspects. Thats why they get paid the most.
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clungey 2/10/2012 1:01am
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Good vid. Title should read...

Motocross is easy when compared to other sports of a more demanding nature....
Which I l know will be hard to swallow for some of you jizzgulpers, it's da troof I tell ya boy!
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fmfred 2/10/2012 5:20am
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Pole vaulting looks pretty f'n difficult





TripleDigit 2/10/2012 6:14am
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MX has to be one of the hardest,physically,mentally and there's a lot of skill,to me NFL is indeed,a few seconds of play then a break,I can't for the life of me what people see in it but each to their own,also you'd never put a guy like RV up against those guys as he's way smaller obviously,Baseball? That's even less work,NBA? More running,although the court is pretty small.
Some of you guys will be pissed at this but the original Football (soccer in US) seems to beat all of the above hands down as far as this goes (im not really into it either),I'm sure there are more in depth sources,strength is hard to gauge,NFL is more strenuous but only in very small bursts


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/football/features/newsid_38370…

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/football-nutrition.html

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_far_does_a_professional_football_player_r…

WTF is this all about,11 minutes of play and 1 hour of adverts?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487042812045750028520555614…
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It's tough to argue against professional cycling as the most demanding sport. Guys racing the Tour de France consume 8-10K calories per day and still lose weight! There are numerous subjective approaches to qualifying a sport's difficutly, but objectively the energy consumed/energy expended ratio provides measurable, tangible evidence. Elite racers are cardio-vascular freaks (PEDs not withstanding) and require a commitment that's second to none.

It's not a slight against MX or any other sport, each of which have elements that a cyclist cannot master. It's simply boiling the argument down to meaurables like power, wattage, and energy consumption. In those catagories, cycling stands alone.
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Nice—but we all know the motosickle does all the work—we are just along for the ride…. Grinning

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TripleDigit 2/10/2012 6:47am
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I think its very hard to compare a lot of sports,MX is a total workout compared to others but doesn't compare to cycling in terms of duration,but a cyclist isn't a patch on many other sportsmen as far as brute strength/upper body goes goes etc
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LoudLove wrote:
It's tough to argue against professional cycling as the most demanding sport. Guys racing the Tour de France consume 8-10K calories per day and still lose...
It's tough to argue against professional cycling as the most demanding sport. Guys racing the Tour de France consume 8-10K calories per day and still lose weight! There are numerous subjective approaches to qualifying a sport's difficutly, but objectively the energy consumed/energy expended ratio provides measurable, tangible evidence. Elite racers are cardio-vascular freaks (PEDs not withstanding) and require a commitment that's second to none.

It's not a slight against MX or any other sport, each of which have elements that a cyclist cannot master. It's simply boiling the argument down to meaurables like power, wattage, and energy consumption. In those catagories, cycling stands alone.
Dude...WTF did you get done with your shoulder? That must've taken a while to come back from?
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clungey 2/10/2012 7:04am
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Too many fat fucks can ride an mx bike at a high standard to convince me that mx is a tough sport!
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LoudLove 2/10/2012 7:08am
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Beemac, let's just say this: a 250F in 4th gear is faster than a 450F in 3rd. A hard lesson-learned when trying to clear a big step-up.

Surgery was June '10 to repair a "catastrophic" humerus break (surgeon's term). I still cannot raise my arm higher than my shoulder w/o assistance. Hopefully a follow-up procedure in April will loosen the hinges. Am I still riding? Yes, sans the big jumping part.
shunter986 2/10/2012 7:27am
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clungey wrote:
Too many fat fucks can ride an mx bike at a high standard to convince me that mx is a tough sport!
Im guessing your kidding? Motocross is so demanding its not even funny. Can a fat fuck run a single lap fast yes. Can a fat fuck run 5 laps at half pace probably but hes tires. That is not motocross. To win at the highest level you need to be able to run sand dunes with a log on your back in 110 degree weather for a half hr. Its like that my man. People in here that have ridin at a top level know what we are talking about. I saw a man die from heat exhaustin from the easy sport you talk of.
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clungey 2/10/2012 7:36am
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clungey wrote:
Too many fat fucks can ride an mx bike at a high standard to convince me that mx is a tough sport!
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Im guessing your kidding? Motocross is so demanding its not even funny. Can a fat fuck run a single lap fast yes. Can a fat fuck...
Im guessing your kidding? Motocross is so demanding its not even funny. Can a fat fuck run a single lap fast yes. Can a fat fuck run 5 laps at half pace probably but hes tires. That is not motocross. To win at the highest level you need to be able to run sand dunes with a log on your back in 110 degree weather for a half hr. Its like that my man. People in here that have ridin at a top level know what we are talking about. I saw a man die from heat exhaustin from the easy sport you talk of.
Kidding...maybe a little bit.

MX at a high level is fairly tough I agree, however some of the chumps on here think it's the toughest sport in the world, clearly not the case...
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LoudLove 2/10/2012 8:05am
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MX has a history of individuals with "natural talent" (Tripes, Lechien, Lawerence) who defeated more physically fit riders. While strength and endurance play a huge role, balance and throttle control can help offset a lack of gym time. They appear to work half as hard to go just as fast. A dash of fearlessness helps as well.

Like comparing Windham and Carmichael. Who is the better "rider"? Probably Kevin. The better racer? RC.
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tonyb 2/10/2012 12:19pm
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clungey wrote:
Kidding...maybe a little bit. MX at a high level is fairly tough I agree, however some of the chumps on here think it's the toughest sport...
Kidding...maybe a little bit.

MX at a high level is fairly tough I agree, however some of the chumps on here think it's the toughest sport in the world, clearly not the case...
clungey, you fat fuck, you don't have a clue to what you are talking about! You make me laugh!
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I read an article years ago about Germany doing tests on there top athletes to establish who was the fitter of them. I think it was Pit Beirer and some Football Players (soccer) cycling etc. and Pit Pissed all over them, with the exception of the Cyclist who was on par with him.

They said that cycling and MX riders are very similar in fitness due to the demands on the body over a prolonged period without rest and the continuing change in heart rate, where in other sports, although over prolonged periods the athletes rest during the match and don't require the same level of endurance fitness.

Other sports although the athletes are very fit, they are trained for short bursts of energy and then can rest for 20/30 secs.
Also in allot of other endurance sports the heart rate stays the same where in MX it is up and down. i.e. if the rider makes a mistake or has a moment on the bike the heart rate shoots up for a while, then has to settle back down again and this happens over and over during a race which has a great demand on endurance apparently.
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peelout 2/10/2012 1:10pm
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clungey wrote:
Kidding...maybe a little bit. MX at a high level is fairly tough I agree, however some of the chumps on here think it's the toughest sport...
Kidding...maybe a little bit.

MX at a high level is fairly tough I agree, however some of the chumps on here think it's the toughest sport in the world, clearly not the case...
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clungey, you fat fuck, you don't have a clue to what you are talking about! You make me laugh!
Bro

why U mad?
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JW381 2/10/2012 1:55pm
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clungey wrote:
Kidding...maybe a little bit. MX at a high level is fairly tough I agree, however some of the chumps on here think it's the toughest sport...
Kidding...maybe a little bit.

MX at a high level is fairly tough I agree, however some of the chumps on here think it's the toughest sport in the world, clearly not the case...
tonyb wrote:
clungey, you fat fuck, you don't have a clue to what you are talking about! You make me laugh!
peelout wrote:
Bro

why U mad?
His girl left him for a fat guy . .
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I think one of the toughest things about motocross is that one tiny mistake can cost you a lot. We've all had crashes which were huge but were caused by a small mistake.

I think motocross is the toughest sport on earth, but then im biased.

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