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Our shit is free, for sure, but it's shit. I have a job, work hard, make a decent living and would far rather live in the US, at least as far as medical care is concerned. I tweaked my back slightly riding a couple weeks ago and gave up trying to find a Dr that was accepting new patients here...wasn't hurt bad enough to go to Emergency.
My Dad's wife flew back to Ukraine (from Canada) because it was a 6 month wait for the tests she needed - in the Ukraine she got in right away.
I am detracting from the original post and for that I am sorry - I couldn't help myself. R2R is a great organization as far as I can tell...just don't let ANYONE tell you health care is "better" in Canada!
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I know it is hopeless trying to change the minds of some when it comes to political issues, but from an outsiders perspective (wait until the overseas people chim in), American politicians and the medical industrial complex that funds them are screwing the citizens of this country over.
That was just my retarded opinion.
I did not pull the 2 examples I provided out of my ass.
Had lunch with a customer Monday who got hit in the head with a puck playing hockey the week before - and whose wife packed up the kids at 11pm at ngiht and drove him (concussion) an hour or more out of Calgary to a smaller town to get stitched up. Why didn't you just go to the hospital here in town, we asked. "Fuck that shit - I'd still be sitting in emergency" was his reply.
I was pondering trying to use my EMPLOYER PROVIDED travellers insurance in Phoenix when I was there for the SX to get my back looked at - I have better things to do (work / ride / drink beer) than make 100 phone calls in Calgary trying to find a Dr taking new patients or sit in a Medicentre or emergency for hours on end.
I hear the horror stories out of the US - do I want that system up here? Not really. Would it benefit me if it was? Probably make it easier to see a Dr, for sure, for the same or less cost to me. Granted, I have a job that would provide me with insurance either way. Is Obamacare going to do anything other than waste more of US taxpayers $? Not likely.
I hijacked the thread again - I couldn't resist. I'm sorry.
The thing that gets me is being denied for being out of network, I have never had to deal with that. Man what a load of shit that is.
Second, I think what we want as Americans is if we pay for health insurance, our decision on which health care facility we go to is based on our health care needs and that we do not have to consult first with our health insurer in a time of need as to which facility they approve of and dissaprove of.
The health Insurance companies seem to accept and not accept health care facilities based on maximum profit motives, not maximum health care motives.
For those that want to sharpshoot? I get what you're saying, but man, your timing isn't really red-hot.
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http://www.road2recovery.com/docs/financials/ROAD%202%20RECOVERY%202009…
From what I can see.
Revenue $237,345
Expenses $253.448
Deficit - .58,678
When you look at their expense sheet it shows a bunch of expenses, The only one I could see related to giving riders money was the Injured Rider program in which they paid out $26,196
They also have listed as an asset, a insured rider Endowment which has been growing from year to year and is now at $280,000 and they bought a vehicle which is another asset at 23,000
By my calculations For every 10 dollars you give, only one makes it to the rider for the year of 2009. I am not an expert either so my numbers may be a little off, but not by much I think.
I don't think carlos is posting stupid stuff. I think someone needs to explain why in 2009, Only 1 dollar of every 10 taken in as revenue went to riders.
Until this is explained I would prefer to give money directly to the rider via paypal, They will get 100 percent up to 6 to 8 before gift taxes kick in, or 33 percent goes to the government. Better than 1 dollar out of 10. Carlos wanted to help by donating, I do too, does anyone have Ryans paypal account?
A professional motocross rider is injured and his health insurance won't pay for his medical care???
WTF???
Either the rider was kind of careless while choosing his insurance company, or the whole medical insurance system in the US is completly f**** up!
God damn, this is really sad, in every way!
Another question (sorry for my lack of knowledge):
Why is there no insurance for the riders coming from Feld. I mean every rider must have a racers-license, right? Is there no insurance included?
Like someone else said, you need to read the fine print on your policy.
What should discussed you isn't the insurance company, but that Feld pockets at least 10 mill a year and they can't even provide some decent insurance foe the guys they are making money off of. Feld could easily put 500k a year into a rider injury fund and let the funds grow while taking care of guys like Morias
Feld could also afford to help riders build up some kind of simple 401K for guys like JT$ and Kyle Lewis, guys that have spent their lives making supercross a better show.
This stuff will never happen because there's doesn't seem to be anyone with the balls that is smart enough to stand up to them. In the mean time, guy will continue to get hurt and beg for Money. And some wonder what's wrong with our sport.
I'm not sure what the right answer is...and I can see both sides. Calling this a "failure" on Feld's part...is inaccurate though. IMO
i would like to stamp on you with that incorrect and generalising bullshit but this thread does not need hihacking for personal torment.
I hope the kid get sorted out and heals up soon, shame.
Feld has the money to even self insure the riders by starting a fund, IMO its in their and the riders best interest and keeping the riders healthy is in felds best interest.
Seems Jimmy Albertson cleared a lot of this up, in the tread that is in the dungeon now...
But nice catch GuyB, but this is good information from Eywa.
However, back to INDYMXR's post about a Pay Pal account being subject to taxes. If ths account is set up as a gift, how is it taxable? Does it have something to do with Pay Pal? CA state laws confirm to the federal law, it would not be taxable.
I'm not bashing R2R by any means.
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