mx and public school... negative.

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My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now because her teacher told her that the softball camp my dad sent her to was an excused absence.. so they appealed the 5 days with the school board and lost. School board said unless it is a school system event it is in-excused. Like the football team leaving school early to make it to a game far away.

So I see why everyone in mx is home schooled because they would fail. Atleast in ga schools they would. does anyone know a school that will excuse a kid 5 or days of school something like LL?? Or a couple days every month for big races like mini O's ect.???
Or any other solution besides home school? I'm just curious because my kid might be interested in mx when he is old enough...
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12/23/2011 10:47am
For me when I was in school it was 9 days, but if you go to them before hand and discuss it with them, maybe you could work something out. I would see about getting the missed work done early so that nobody has to try to play catch-up (both teacher and student) and that way they might be more likely to work with you. It all comes down to your local school though. I came from a redneck, rural school where they were just glad to have people graduating, haha.
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12/23/2011 10:48am
Sue the teacher for misleading you.

Hit her for 100 grand, mental anguish.
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mellonhs wrote:
My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now...
My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now because her teacher told her that the softball camp my dad sent her to was an excused absence.. so they appealed the 5 days with the school board and lost. School board said unless it is a school system event it is in-excused. Like the football team leaving school early to make it to a game far away.

So I see why everyone in mx is home schooled because they would fail. Atleast in ga schools they would. does anyone know a school that will excuse a kid 5 or days of school something like LL?? Or a couple days every month for big races like mini O's ect.???
Or any other solution besides home school? I'm just curious because my kid might be interested in mx when he is old enough...
You really expected Softball CAMP to be an excused abscense??? WTF??? Always go to the Principal for stuff like that.


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12/23/2011 10:58am
Private school, expensive but more flexible, my buddy has a kid that misses high school for baseball tournaments.
The kid is still getting straight A's

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12/23/2011 11:11am Edited Date/Time 12/23/2011 11:13am
This is what many motocross families do when the public school system fails them and they care about providing their child a quality education. http://www.stayontrack.net/
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My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now...
My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now because her teacher told her that the softball camp my dad sent her to was an excused absence.. so they appealed the 5 days with the school board and lost. School board said unless it is a school system event it is in-excused. Like the football team leaving school early to make it to a game far away.

So I see why everyone in mx is home schooled because they would fail. Atleast in ga schools they would. does anyone know a school that will excuse a kid 5 or days of school something like LL?? Or a couple days every month for big races like mini O's ect.???
Or any other solution besides home school? I'm just curious because my kid might be interested in mx when he is old enough...
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You really expected Softball CAMP to be an excused abscense??? WTF??? Always go to the Principal for stuff like that.


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U missed the whole point of the thread lol
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Of course they will try to play this off as an education issue, and that your child will suffer if they are absent too much.

BS...

Like a lot of things, all you have to do is follow the money.

Public schools get "X" amount per student in attendance.

If too many are absent it cuts into the ol' funding, so no matter how brilliant little Johnnie or Susie is, if you cost them money, you will be failed, then they can get funding for the classes you repeat.
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Of course a solution might be to bring back High School motocross teams like they had out in Cali in the 70's.......
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12/23/2011 11:29am
A family usually has to get approval through the school board BEFORE the academic year starts. The family most times has to provide a very detailed list of all the dates the student will miss and the parents usually are required to provide proof that the student is attending said events on the days off.

In most cases i've seen, the student board will usually decline the approval because of how much extra work is created for the teachers to provide the student with a detailed lesson plan for the year so they can stay current with their work on missed days. In the rare cases of approval, the student is usally put on full time academic probation with at least a "C" average or higher. Once that "C" average is dropped because of bad grades and incomplete work due to absences, the deal is off.

School boards just won't approve of a kid who is only in class tuesday through thursday, out traveling to to the race weekend on friday, and then traveling back home sunday night and monday after saturday and sunday racing. There's a big difference between a kid who needs to miss some days at the end of summer/early fall and then springtime vs. the major amateur who is trying to attend big races every single weekend all school year long.
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mellonhs wrote:
My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now...
My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now because her teacher told her that the softball camp my dad sent her to was an excused absence.. so they appealed the 5 days with the school board and lost. School board said unless it is a school system event it is in-excused. Like the football team leaving school early to make it to a game far away.

So I see why everyone in mx is home schooled because they would fail. Atleast in ga schools they would. does anyone know a school that will excuse a kid 5 or days of school something like LL?? Or a couple days every month for big races like mini O's ect.???
Or any other solution besides home school? I'm just curious because my kid might be interested in mx when he is old enough...
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You really expected Softball CAMP to be an excused abscense??? WTF??? Always go to the Principal for stuff like that.


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mellonhs wrote:
U missed the whole point of the thread lol
No, I didn't I just commented on part of the first paragraph.

Also, are you asking a question or making a point? Make up your mind.


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Of course they will try to play this off as an education issue, and that your child will suffer if they are absent too much. BS...
Of course they will try to play this off as an education issue, and that your child will suffer if they are absent too much.

BS...

Like a lot of things, all you have to do is follow the money.

Public schools get "X" amount per student in attendance.

If too many are absent it cuts into the ol' funding, so no matter how brilliant little Johnnie or Susie is, if you cost them money, you will be failed, then they can get funding for the classes you repeat.
Ummmmmm, in most cases it is and educational issue. Usually little Johnnie or Susie isn't brilliant and when he doesn't learn anything it's put on the system.


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12/23/2011 11:34am
You're worried about school attendance policies for your future kids, so they can race?
You must have a short worry list.
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12/23/2011 11:36am
wow man that sucks...

when i was in high school, i had a shit ton of missed days each year because of racing. not sure how i didn't get affected, but i do know that a lot of my teachers knew i was racing and didn't mark me absent.

but my opinion, stay far far away from home-schooling. the social aspect of growing up around other people with other interests is something that hanging out with kids at the race track will never teach you... imo
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12/23/2011 11:39am
P wrote:
You really expected Softball CAMP to be an excused abscense??? WTF??? Always go to the Principal for stuff like that.


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mellonhs wrote:
U missed the whole point of the thread lol
P wrote:
No, I didn't I just commented on part of the first paragraph. Also, are you asking a question or making a point? Make up your mind...
No, I didn't I just commented on part of the first paragraph.

Also, are you asking a question or making a point? Make up your mind.


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Asking a question and giving an example of what just happened. I mean considering she's the starting pitcher and the reason they win games I would have thought it would he easier to get that excused. and if not I was wondering if it was impossible for mx. Because it has nothing to do with the school. And softball did. And her teacher told her it was cool. She just missed her last class and that teacher said it was excused. That's all
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12/23/2011 11:41am
You're worried about school attendance policies for your future kids, so they can race?
You must have a short worry list.
Lol I'm not worried I was WONDERING. My kid might not even race.. it was just a curiosity question because of what my dad told me today.
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My son just graduated from public school and has done every amateur national for the past 8 years.
I will never say it was easy, but a decent education is really high on our priority list.
He has done very well at racing, and in school, but there will always be obstacles in life and how you deal with them is what makes you the person you are.
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mellonhs wrote:
U missed the whole point of the thread lol
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No, I didn't I just commented on part of the first paragraph. Also, are you asking a question or making a point? Make up your mind...
No, I didn't I just commented on part of the first paragraph.

Also, are you asking a question or making a point? Make up your mind.


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Asking a question and giving an example of what just happened. I mean considering she's the starting pitcher and the reason they win games I would...
Asking a question and giving an example of what just happened. I mean considering she's the starting pitcher and the reason they win games I would have thought it would he easier to get that excused. and if not I was wondering if it was impossible for mx. Because it has nothing to do with the school. And softball did. And her teacher told her it was cool. She just missed her last class and that teacher said it was excused. That's all
It wasn't a school approved/sponsored camp, was it? Either way, you should always go to the top for stuff like that.

I would say don't even think about home schooling your kid until they are 14 or 15 and are a true prospect, but even then I wouldn't recommend it. Broc Hepler went to regular school as did Justin Bogal I believe. It can be done. Your kid may have to go to a school outside of your immediate area, but sometimes there are schools in a district that are more flexible. The Olympic skater Joey Cheek is from my town and he had to switch schools to a program that would allow him to travel during the school year.


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Wrong P. School attendance has been tied to fed and state $ for a while now. The school looses money when jr is out. Do you go to the doc every time you have a stomach virus? Hell no it will pass literally!! But the schools do not take a note or confirmation from mom and dad as an excuse anymore. Bastards expect a doc note every time to excuse it. All about $... Attendance shouldn't matter when it comes to pass or fail, it should be about the grades. Didn't do the work, didn't pass the test? No pass...
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I had it worked out with my school, that as long as I kept my grades above a 3.0, I could miss school to race. It couldn't be an excessive amount though.
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Wrong P. School attendance has been tied to fed and state $ for a while now. The school looses money when jr is out. Do you...
Wrong P. School attendance has been tied to fed and state $ for a while now. The school looses money when jr is out. Do you go to the doc every time you have a stomach virus? Hell no it will pass literally!! But the schools do not take a note or confirmation from mom and dad as an excuse anymore. Bastards expect a doc note every time to excuse it. All about $... Attendance shouldn't matter when it comes to pass or fail, it should be about the grades. Didn't do the work, didn't pass the test? No pass...
Of course attendence should matter for the simple point that I mentioned above. Most kids aren't "super kids" and need to be present in class to learn the material. These are teenagers, most of them can't even get going in the morning without getting a boot in the butt.


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12/23/2011 12:17pm
As someone whose kids are home schooled I always chuckle when these threads come up. There are so many misconceptions thrown around by people who have no idea what it entails it is quite amusing. The whole “socialization” issue is the biggest load of crap. My kids have absolutely no socialization issues unless you count things like my 12 year old daughter isn’t interested in acting like she is 18 like her public school friends. We wanted the best education & opportunities for our children and that wasn’t going to happen with the current public school system. I guess we will find out how that worked out as they grow up?
And yes, attendance is tied to funding. We have been down that road a few times………
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Tracktor wrote:
As someone whose kids are home schooled I always chuckle when these threads come up. There are so many misconceptions thrown around by people who have...
As someone whose kids are home schooled I always chuckle when these threads come up. There are so many misconceptions thrown around by people who have no idea what it entails it is quite amusing. The whole “socialization” issue is the biggest load of crap. My kids have absolutely no socialization issues unless you count things like my 12 year old daughter isn’t interested in acting like she is 18 like her public school friends. We wanted the best education & opportunities for our children and that wasn’t going to happen with the current public school system. I guess we will find out how that worked out as they grow up?
And yes, attendance is tied to funding. We have been down that road a few times………
What kind of student were you in school? Do you have a teaching degree? Just asking.


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mellonhs wrote:
My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now...
My sister is in the 10th grade and she told me if they miss 7 in-excused days they automatically fail the class. She has 5 now because her teacher told her that the softball camp my dad sent her to was an excused absence.. so they appealed the 5 days with the school board and lost. School board said unless it is a school system event it is in-excused. Like the football team leaving school early to make it to a game far away.

So I see why everyone in mx is home schooled because they would fail. Atleast in ga schools they would. does anyone know a school that will excuse a kid 5 or days of school something like LL?? Or a couple days every month for big races like mini O's ect.???
Or any other solution besides home school? I'm just curious because my kid might be interested in mx when he is old enough...
10 days at my school..my dad just lied and said someone died, we had to go out of town...excused!

Someone died alot, later teachers would go out into hall and ask, where you racing this week!?
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Tracktor wrote:
As someone whose kids are home schooled I always chuckle when these threads come up. There are so many misconceptions thrown around by people who have...
As someone whose kids are home schooled I always chuckle when these threads come up. There are so many misconceptions thrown around by people who have no idea what it entails it is quite amusing. The whole “socialization” issue is the biggest load of crap. My kids have absolutely no socialization issues unless you count things like my 12 year old daughter isn’t interested in acting like she is 18 like her public school friends. We wanted the best education & opportunities for our children and that wasn’t going to happen with the current public school system. I guess we will find out how that worked out as they grow up?
And yes, attendance is tied to funding. We have been down that road a few times………
X2 man that's all kids do now in high school. Smoke weed and drink. Like a local pro tried going to school. Got into drugs in 10th grade... Wasted talent. That kid can still fly around a track and has taught Nick Gaines a lot of what he knows on a bike...
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We send our son to Catholic school, at the end of the school year (last) I approached the principle. I told her that we plan on attending four different Am Nats. I told her that we need to take a week off here and there and she had no problem with it. We will do all assignments that will be due either before of during our breaks.
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12/23/2011 1:02pm
JustMX wrote:
Of course they will try to play this off as an education issue, and that your child will suffer if they are absent too much. BS...
Of course they will try to play this off as an education issue, and that your child will suffer if they are absent too much.

BS...

Like a lot of things, all you have to do is follow the money.

Public schools get "X" amount per student in attendance.

If too many are absent it cuts into the ol' funding, so no matter how brilliant little Johnnie or Susie is, if you cost them money, you will be failed, then they can get funding for the classes you repeat.
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Ummmmmm, in most cases it is and educational issue. Usually little Johnnie or Susie isn't brilliant and when he doesn't learn anything it's put on the...
Ummmmmm, in most cases it is and educational issue. Usually little Johnnie or Susie isn't brilliant and when he doesn't learn anything it's put on the system.


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When my son missed school for racing the teachers were never concerned abour him missing class and I constantly received letters from the school asking me to pay the school for the days he missed. In fact at the beginning of the school year they sent out letters to all the parents asking them to pay for days their kids missed.Its all about the money.I never felt obligated to pay them to teach my son on a day he didnt attend.
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12/23/2011 1:16pm
What is bullshit is when a parent is told what is and what isn't "excused" absence. To top that off now they tie grading to this. I am not a fan of home schooling by any means but can understand why many take this road for thier kids.

Flip that.

WHo the hell thinks going to overated "national" amatuer race is worth missing school over and for that matter why should these promoters expect a turn out doing these events during school time?

Guess it is where we place education these days. The mere fact these races are so greatly attended kind of in a way shows where people priorities lay.

School Boards, Principals, and for that fact Zoning boards have nothing more then a mini "dictator" complex, given a little power and look out they will show you who is boss.

I guess that is why when a parent decides to take his/her kid out of school they just friggin lie about it since the "power" isn't in the hands of the parents any longer.
no wonder things are so screwed up.
12/23/2011 1:25pm
In my day, it was the PARENTS who dictated what was "excusable", not the school.

They were also allowed to paddle a kids ass.

This is not ancient history either, we are talking late 80s, 90s, RM80s braaaaaap, and whatnot.
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Tracktor wrote:
As someone whose kids are home schooled I always chuckle when these threads come up. There are so many misconceptions thrown around by people who have...
As someone whose kids are home schooled I always chuckle when these threads come up. There are so many misconceptions thrown around by people who have no idea what it entails it is quite amusing. The whole “socialization” issue is the biggest load of crap. My kids have absolutely no socialization issues unless you count things like my 12 year old daughter isn’t interested in acting like she is 18 like her public school friends. We wanted the best education & opportunities for our children and that wasn’t going to happen with the current public school system. I guess we will find out how that worked out as they grow up?
And yes, attendance is tied to funding. We have been down that road a few times………
agreed, keeping them out of the public school system is probably the best thing a parent can do for a kid these days at least out here where I live. Unfortunately, most parents can't afford private schools or tutoring.
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12/23/2011 1:34pm
What do you get when a double digit IQ parent tries to teach their kid every course required for a full education? At least in a real school, you'll have a few great teachers to make up for the losers.

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