SX/MX mechanic salary?

BobbyM
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I may have an opportunity to get into the industry as a mechanic, but I need to know if it is something that I can support...
I may have an opportunity to get into the industry as a mechanic, but I need to know if it is something that I can support my family and make a living doing. Any ideas what kind of range a salary would be for a mechanic?

Obviously a new hire for a privateer is going to make a lot less than somebody like Mike Gosselar, but what kind of range are we talking? This would obviously be a dream job for me, but I can't take it if it means putting my family in financial despair

Maybe Matthes would like to chime in? Smile

Thanks in advance guys
TO answer yer question...

FUCK NO.

and

slim to near poverty level for an entry level mech.
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12/2/2011 1:21pm
There was a shock company hiring engineers in california a month or two ago, they might still be looking. The don't do that much in offroad...
There was a shock company hiring engineers in california a month or two ago, they might still be looking. The don't do that much in offroad but they are industry still:
[url]http://www.progressivesuspension.com/jobs.html[/url]
Just checked that out and it looks like it could be a really great fit! My knowledge of suspension from my tinkering with trucks would be an advantage I'm sure, and I have the manufacturing experience as well Smile

Thanks for the link!
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12/2/2011 1:24pm
neysbo wrote:
Could even do it for free for Team Tedder
This is actually what this whole thread has been about. I was thinking about applying for the Team Tedder gig and feel I have a good...
This is actually what this whole thread has been about. I was thinking about applying for the Team Tedder gig and feel I have a good shot at getting it, however having a wife and a 17mo old plus a mortgage it just doesn't seem like something I could realistically do
oh hey Tedders are great, Love Matt and his lovely wife, Christine ...good people and good to work for !

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12/2/2011 1:25pm
The REALLY good news here is that there are gonna be more "Employed" mechaincs in the Paddock in 2012 than we've seen in a long, long, long...time.

The Bad news? We're still in a shit economy and there's not a lot of money to throw around.

So, in the end, it would seem that more of them are gonna get a "better" wage; however, I'm sure many will feel they should be making more.

The Shop

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LAYINBODY31...i've been in the same boat as you. I went to college and graduated with a BA's degree in Engineering and have always thought about trying to do what you're looking into. I worked as a mechanic in shops all through college and one summer I was fortunate enough to do the MX series with a pro privateer. It paid $450 a week and yes it was fun, but at the same the only bills I had were my monthly cell phone and student loan bill. So in most of that sense, it was fun because I had no responsibilities back home as far as a mortgag, wife, children etc. I did miss my friends after being on the road for a couple months and I think you would be in a very difficult situation with your mortgage and family. I'm in the same spot you are in...it was difficult for me to find work and when I finally found a job it has been fairly low paying (around $35,0000.) I'm just now starting my 3rd year here, and like you said, putting in my "experience dues" so I can really start applying for a new job that pays a more deserving wage. But at the same time I am thankful for what I have given the economy and i'm sure you're wife and kid are appreciative of the income you bring home now.

My advise to you having gone through the same thing is to stick with your engineering job. So many more oppurtunitys and good salary jobs to be had if you just stick with it and be patient until the right job comes open. I would suggest keeping your eyes open on the OEM websites as they often post positions for Engineers in the powersport divisions.

Another tip, you really better know your stuff if you want to go on a team as a mechanic. All those mechanics in the pits know so much and work so quickly it's amazing. And If you ARE that good, take an ad out in your local paper and work out of your garage at night charging $40-$60 an hour and stay home and raise your family.
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12/2/2011 2:05pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2011 9:17pm
My oldest just started here working with their trick software program: http://www.hntb.com/our-work
They have an Indy location as well as a bunch nationwide. Seems to pay decent for experienced people.
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Hey mxtech1, you got a "BA's" degree in engineering? As a real engineer, I'm offended. WTF is a BA's degree in engineering?

When I completed my mechanical engineering curriculum, I was given a Bachelor of Science....you know, on account of engineering being....a science!!!!! BTW, did they cover proper use of apostrophes at your school?

I'm just busting your chops, man! Wink
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Thanks for the input guys... sadly those numbers aren't far off from what I'm making now with my Big10 engineering degree and 2 years experience :(...
Thanks for the input guys... sadly those numbers aren't far off from what I'm making now with my Big10 engineering degree and 2 years experience Sad But to secure something like that is what is going to be a struggle, although would be the best job I'm likely to ever have Smile
really man? that sucks, can you weld? i made very good money welding in indianapolis when they were expanding their airport. i built their above ground fuel storage tanks.
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12/2/2011 4:05pm
mom241 wrote:
I'm shocked at what your salary is. Must be frustrating after working to earn such a great degree at an excellent school. Have you thought about...
I'm shocked at what your salary is. Must be frustrating after working to earn such a great degree at
an excellent school. Have you thought about pursuing engineering within the industry?

Mechanics are under appreciated (hopefully not by their riders). They really work hard and give lots of moral support. Brent has been with Trey since he was 13--the year after he lost his father. Don't know where he would be without Big B.
I'm rather shocked at my salary too, and yes it is very frustrating after all the work to earn my degree. I took the job thinking...
I'm rather shocked at my salary too, and yes it is very frustrating after all the work to earn my degree. I took the job thinking that there would be a large hike in salary after the first year but it never happened. But now I'm in the position where I almost need to stay for the 'time on the job experience' even though the pay is low, because unfortunately companies don't see my value as much higher than someone fresh out of college. And the bad part is that there's just not many jobs in my area, so finding a new one is hard

But like you and others have suggested, I would love to find an engineering job in the field. I just need to get my resume to the right people but finding a way to do that is hard. I figured that if I took the Tedder gig I could plaster my resume all over at the races and find something more along the engineering lines that would pay in the range I need to support my family. Can I send it to you and you get it to some people in the industry?? Smile I'd love to see some of my original designs make their way into the sport such as a VVT camshaft I designed for my Senior Design Project (I can just see Trey riding a TrueVVT Uni-Cam CRF450r right now.... Wink )
I was an Engineering mgr when I was in my 20's and still follow the numbers. Assuming you are a good engineer; i.e. your identity is "getting things done" you should be able to find a job in the $55,000 to $65,000 range. After more years on the job you can be making $75,000 - $80,000...and these are midwest jobs.... All that being said, do not take my word for it....the Purdue placement center can give you all the data you desire!!!
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12/2/2011 5:20pm
Highsider wrote:
My oldest just started here working with their trick software program: http://www.hntb.com/our-work They have an Indy location as well as a bunch nationwide. Seems to pay...
My oldest just started here working with their trick software program: http://www.hntb.com/our-work
They have an Indy location as well as a bunch nationwide. Seems to pay decent for experienced people.
I've worked for HNTB a couple of different times over the years and they're a top-notch firm. The thing is, they are an A-E firm and mostly deal with civil engineering type of projects. I get the feeling that layinbody 531 is a mech eng.

MX_563, I also got a chuckle about the "BA's degree in Engineering" comment, but given the butchering of the English language and piss-poor spelling and writing skills I've witnessed over the years by some brilliant engineers, I just chalked it up to right-brain/left-brain syndrome.

Layinbody 531, I have to agree with Trey's mom about the paltry salary you say you're pulling. Go to work for HNTB and you should be pulling in $60-70k for starters. Work in the field as an inspector on a project that receives federal funding and prevailing wage is around $48/hr.

Hell, I brought my older brother in when I was QA Manager on the 22 Frwy back in 2005 and he knew NOTHING about construction...ZERO. He'd been a juvenile probation officer for years after getting a BA in Sociology from UCSB. Anyway, him and his degree were worthless, but I hired him and taught him enough to pull it off, while also being in a position to kind of carry him and see that one of my other inspectors kept an eye on him. He got all the Caltrans certs I told him to get (no-brainers) and ended up outlasting me as the project wound down in 2007. I hooked him up at HNTB after that and he's been making $50/hr there ever since, which is at least 3 times as much as he ever made as a P.O.
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I would like to take this time to apologize to the posting parties in this thread for improper use of apostrophes, spelling, and not specifically defining an area of education. ddavis
12/2/2011 9:49pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2011 9:52pm
The everyone landing a job has been typical for my ME class too, although most of the jobs start around 70k around here. Why anyone would think mechanical is on the decline I'm not sure; Besides typical applications of ME, our school also did concentrations in Robotics and HVAC, which are areas that are certainly not going away.
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12/2/2011 10:24pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2011 10:26pm
- "Average" Probably less than a auto mechanic (my whole family are mechanics and shop owners)

- New family = not recommend to work on the road......

- Connections/experience needed


IMO If older than 25 probably too late to get in to


This is how I would do it to become a mechanic at pro level IMO

-Be a kid who rides and already mechanically incline and has desire
-Work at a local mx shop/dealer during highschool
-Then move over to a local mx suspension shop
-Work on some local A/B riders for experience for cheap
-Get a job at a creditable dealer/shop (PC, RG3.....) as a intern while completely a degree
-Work your way up the ranks at that shop while getting connections
-Convince them to let you tag along on a couple of races as a helper for no pay
-Work as a private mechanic for a season
-Move back to a creditable shop that has a team with now experience/connections/hopefully a degree
-Get that job as a mechanic for a satellite team
-Make a name for yourself
-Mitch calls you for a job Wink hahhahaha
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12/3/2011 1:08am
You want to make money wirh your Engineering degree? Go to work in the oilfield! Have friends that are Engineers working in the oilfield(Eagleford) here in Texas who are making stupid money. Make boatloads of money with your degree and use the money to enjoy your hobbies.
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I would love a job as a pro mechanic and I've been offered the chance....but the starting pay just didn't cut it. For a young person with not a lot of bills it would be awesome....if you can cut the mustard.
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12/3/2011 5:15am
I have multiple friends that are Engineers and they all do well. A couple of them are 6 figures in their early 30s.

Even my ex that struggled for 8 years to get a ME degree got a job just days after graduating making 2x the numbers you are talking.

You need to figure out a way to get into oil field, that is where the money is.

Besides running your own business, sales it's where it's at for good money. All the sales people in my family make strong 6 figure salaries.

Good Luck.
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mxtech1 wrote:
LAYINBODY31...i've been in the same boat as you. I went to college and graduated with a BA's degree in Engineering and have always thought about trying...
LAYINBODY31...i've been in the same boat as you. I went to college and graduated with a BA's degree in Engineering and have always thought about trying to do what you're looking into. I worked as a mechanic in shops all through college and one summer I was fortunate enough to do the MX series with a pro privateer. It paid $450 a week and yes it was fun, but at the same the only bills I had were my monthly cell phone and student loan bill. So in most of that sense, it was fun because I had no responsibilities back home as far as a mortgag, wife, children etc. I did miss my friends after being on the road for a couple months and I think you would be in a very difficult situation with your mortgage and family. I'm in the same spot you are in...it was difficult for me to find work and when I finally found a job it has been fairly low paying (around $35,0000.) I'm just now starting my 3rd year here, and like you said, putting in my "experience dues" so I can really start applying for a new job that pays a more deserving wage. But at the same time I am thankful for what I have given the economy and i'm sure you're wife and kid are appreciative of the income you bring home now.

My advise to you having gone through the same thing is to stick with your engineering job. So many more oppurtunitys and good salary jobs to be had if you just stick with it and be patient until the right job comes open. I would suggest keeping your eyes open on the OEM websites as they often post positions for Engineers in the powersport divisions.

Another tip, you really better know your stuff if you want to go on a team as a mechanic. All those mechanics in the pits know so much and work so quickly it's amazing. And If you ARE that good, take an ad out in your local paper and work out of your garage at night charging $40-$60 an hour and stay home and raise your family.
Good advice here. I've been in the HVAC and controls business for 17 years, work for a very large company and 35k is about right from what i've seen back east. someone mentioned 70k in Cali which would be about right there as well.
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12/3/2011 5:55am
You want to make money on your engineering degree? Move to northern Alberta/ Saskatchewan and you'll START at 150k or more. A laborer can make 80k + up there.
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12/3/2011 5:57am
RACERX69 wrote:
You want to make money wirh your Engineering degree? Go to work in the oilfield! Have friends that are Engineers working in the oilfield(Eagleford) here in...
You want to make money wirh your Engineering degree? Go to work in the oilfield! Have friends that are Engineers working in the oilfield(Eagleford) here in Texas who are making stupid money. Make boatloads of money with your degree and use the money to enjoy your hobbies.
This is one true statement for sure. Look up any engineering job in the oilfield right now and the pay is great with a good days off schedule. I know some guys that make a base salary of $110k with 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. There is a huge demand for Engineers right now.
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just about any of those oilfield, power plant, paper mill jobs will pay around 100k. i made good money at those places tig welding. the work was hard but i didn't mind for the amount of money they were paying.
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crane operators in NYC getting paid $100/hr with overtime.
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12/3/2011 6:13am
You won't make enough money to feed your family as a MX/SX mechanic and thats the good news if your rider doesn't get hurt.
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12/3/2011 6:33am
Roscoe33 wrote:
You won't make enough money to feed your family as a MX/SX mechanic and thats the good news if your rider doesn't get hurt.
that's kind of sad really, i always pictured those guys making decent money.
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Hey shoot me an email I'll give you my contact info. I work for a race team if you have any questions. Jonmx114@gmail.com
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12/3/2011 3:09pm Edited Date/Time 12/3/2011 3:09pm
Here is last year's Salary Survey from Purdue. Page 2 covers Engineering degrees.

https://www.cco.purdue.edu/common/SalaryMay10.pdf


MEs: 107 reporting with low of $33K, Average $57K, High $95K. Chem-E, Nuc's, EE, and C-EE seem to still carry the highest average starting salary.

My company is hiring as many undergrad Purdue engineers that we can get and we are north of $60K on average for technology Consulting careers. If you have the grades and proven summer work experience and extracurriculars (demonstrated self-starter, high-performer, hard-worker), then you're good to go.
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12/3/2011 4:47pm
Yeah dude...dont bother with being a mechanic....assuming you have atleast a 3.0 GPA and some experience, there is a higher paying job somewhere...

I didnt finish college, but if I had an engineering degree I wouldn't waste my fucking time with "engineering" ...i'd get into finance and business.

Your engineering degree, granted you market it right, will be more compensated in business than engineering.
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12/3/2011 8:19pm
Working in racing is awsome but as most people have posted if you have a family it isn't condusive unless you have a very understanding foundation. If there is already doubt on that side I think your already in trouble.

The other thing to consider is stability....there is ZERO...new crew cheif, team manger, owner and you could be out on the street having done nothing wrong....It happens every year around here and its a real shame...there are probably 200 people looking in this area right now. Their skills are awsome but unfortunately it becomes a very specialized discipline that can cause serious problems trying to get into regular industry after just minimal years in racing.

As much as I know you really want to do it I would have to say its not the life it appears to be from the outside.
12/3/2011 9:44pm
Have you seen the new video about "mechanics of the stars?' All about their cars and toys and houses......chicks too.
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Thanks for the input guys... sadly those numbers aren't far off from what I'm making now with my Big10 engineering degree and 2 years experience :(...
Thanks for the input guys... sadly those numbers aren't far off from what I'm making now with my Big10 engineering degree and 2 years experience Sad But to secure something like that is what is going to be a struggle, although would be the best job I'm likely to ever have Smile
I know a mechanic (who will remain unnamed) and years ago he jokingly said he probably makes $5 and hour if you did the math of what his pay was and how many hours he puts in. It was about 10 years ago, at the time he was with a Factory team working for a top rider. He's still at it with a major team. I've done some math in the past on this subject.

If you figure $5 an hour for 40 hours that equals $200.

If you add overtime and figure $7.50 an hour for 50 more hours, that equals $375.

Doing this math you end up with $30,000 a year ($575 x 52 weeks).

Using 90 hours and $20 an hour Goose comes out around $120,000. People laugh at this when I bring it up, but do the math. I don't know if they put in 90 hours a week, but I bet that isn't a shocking number. Remember, race weekends are basically full-on work straight through from when you leave for the airport until you get back home. I assume they are all salaried but this helps put an hourly figure on it.

Don't expect to have the same family time you would working 40 hours at the engineering gig.
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12/4/2011 6:54am
I have a ME degree. I am currently over a group of 23 engineers (various) and I bring in new hires at 60K. You may need to start looking at another company. In most engineering jobs, where you got your degree or if you have an advanced degree means nothing. The creme always rises to the top and if you're a crappy engineer your salary will stay as such. It is common for top engineers to increase their salary by 50% in 4 years. For example, if my new hires are exceptional, they will be making 90K in 4 years. I started in 1990 and actually doubled my salary in 4 years.

To be exceptional it takes long hours, ability to figure anything out (from the fundamantals), detailed oriented work, and the ability to communicate it. If you don't have those, you wont be exceptional.

You need to mke up your mind soon, as most companies will not hire entry level engineers if they have been out of school for 4 years or more. So, you either need to be an expert at something if you are looking at another company or say where you are.

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