max anstie in for lites west...

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:02pm
he signed with italian team gariboldi, that ran kullas and charlier on monster yamahas in mx2, has changed brand for 2012....
they will be running hondas, with close help from works team honda martin, and should keep monster as major sponsor....
the program for max is just like roczen did this year....lites west in usa them mx2....
don't now what backup or even what bikes will he have in usa, but he has good speed in sx, should be another player for the west serie........
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10/14/2011 6:28pm
Cool, so he will ride Honda's for a year before his crooked, scummy dad ruins it for him as usual and he's left trying to find another team for 2013.
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10/14/2011 6:36pm
there was a fight with him and fim director wolfgang srb and i think he is not alowed at the fim races for some time.....
2013 could be the year for max to shine since he will not have daddy bugging his head around at the races.......
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10/14/2011 9:59pm
Max was on it 2 years ago in SX.
I can see him doing well on Hondas
10/15/2011 1:58am
Yeah the kid was very exiting to watch,I thought he was on the verge of big things

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Yeah the kid was very exiting to watch,I thought he was on the verge of big things
He should of stayed in the USA in the first place. Supercross suits him down to the ground.

Shame his dad keeps disturbing his career ,if what I've been reading is true...
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10/15/2011 4:01am Edited Date/Time 10/15/2011 4:02am
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do GPs from you are 15, then go to the US later, he would have been faster.

That said he is really good at Supercross, I just wonder if he can stay injury free by the time the GPs come around lol

With a years experiance in GPs he should be good in 2012.
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10/15/2011 7:25am Edited Date/Time 10/15/2011 7:53am
mccread wrote:
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do...
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do GPs from you are 15, then go to the US later, he would have been faster.

That said he is really good at Supercross, I just wonder if he can stay injury free by the time the GPs come around lol

With a years experiance in GPs he should be good in 2012.
Yeah you're right, all those injuries while he was here and not a healthy full year of racing for sure had nothing to do with his stunt of speed growth...

Are you for real sometimes man!! You are the biggest shit talker I've ever read on here!

Anyway, best of luck to Max! Seems he has lost the biggest monkey off his back and now can show everyone what he's had all along


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mccread wrote:
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do...
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do GPs from you are 15, then go to the US later, he would have been faster.

That said he is really good at Supercross, I just wonder if he can stay injury free by the time the GPs come around lol

With a years experiance in GPs he should be good in 2012.
SH_105 wrote:
Yeah you're right, all those injuries while he was here and not a healthy full year of racing for sure had nothing to do with his...
Yeah you're right, all those injuries while he was here and not a healthy full year of racing for sure had nothing to do with his stunt of speed growth...

Are you for real sometimes man!! You are the biggest shit talker I've ever read on here!

Anyway, best of luck to Max! Seems he has lost the biggest monkey off his back and now can show everyone what he's had all along


SH
It true all those injuries have slowed his progress but it is true to say alot of european riders come over to the states and get hurt.Searle waited till later and it resulted in the same outcome,riding out there takes you to another level quicker than staying home, max will be back faster and stronger this year just hope he stays healthy.
Shaun do you think your speed improved doing gp's or do you think you lost the intensity that you need in the AMA
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mccread wrote:
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do...
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do GPs from you are 15, then go to the US later, he would have been faster.

That said he is really good at Supercross, I just wonder if he can stay injury free by the time the GPs come around lol

With a years experiance in GPs he should be good in 2012.
SH_105 wrote:
Yeah you're right, all those injuries while he was here and not a healthy full year of racing for sure had nothing to do with his...
Yeah you're right, all those injuries while he was here and not a healthy full year of racing for sure had nothing to do with his stunt of speed growth...

Are you for real sometimes man!! You are the biggest shit talker I've ever read on here!

Anyway, best of luck to Max! Seems he has lost the biggest monkey off his back and now can show everyone what he's had all along


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Good post! Grinning
You need to post more often Hammy!
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10/21/2011 1:00pm
looks like he is working hard to make it right in sx......
this his the 1º video of him in a honda, and it looks to be at the ranch in california....so he is already putting in the laps gatting set for the west cost.....wonder in what honda team will he be pitting out of ??

https://youtu.be/zv2hYqvHG3A
10/21/2011 1:04pm
On a 450 too, sweet wheelie in whoops
10/22/2011 12:00am
awesome news that max is doing the supercross- he will be a championship contender, great supercross rider!
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10/22/2011 4:27am Edited Date/Time 10/22/2011 4:32am
mccread wrote:
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do...
He lost a lot of speed to Roczen and Herlings though by going to the US, I think he should have done what they did, do GPs from you are 15, then go to the US later, he would have been faster.

That said he is really good at Supercross, I just wonder if he can stay injury free by the time the GPs come around lol

With a years experiance in GPs he should be good in 2012.
SH_105 wrote:
Yeah you're right, all those injuries while he was here and not a healthy full year of racing for sure had nothing to do with his...
Yeah you're right, all those injuries while he was here and not a healthy full year of racing for sure had nothing to do with his stunt of speed growth...

Are you for real sometimes man!! You are the biggest shit talker I've ever read on here!

Anyway, best of luck to Max! Seems he has lost the biggest monkey off his back and now can show everyone what he's had all along


SH
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing more on SX style of riding also meant he struggled with his outdoor speed and adapting to the diversity of tracks/countries when he raced the world championship this year, whereas Roczen/Herlings/Searle where fast on everything and even beat him at Glen Helen too. Those two reasons (plus maybe his dad making him not attractive to top teams in US lol) are a big part of why I feel he lost ground on those guys in motocross and why he I believe he should have stayed and raced GPs for a couple of years and established himself as a versatile all round top rider outdoors.. then went to the US for supercross once he had established himself like Roczen has done.

The facts are he went to the US at 13/14 to become a better rider and get a head start on those guys - turns out they are the ones ahead of him in career development, and at a younger age, especially in motocross. Which indicates to me that they made the right choice. Searle has also had more success in his career by going the same route. I think that is a pretty fair observation to make based on what's happened...not sure why that annoys you tbh.

Anstie is a great rider though, with very good technique and brings a lot of colour to the paddock. I just hope he stays injury free this year in Supercross and show what he can do, then race the GPs healthy and finally start to get some wins. It will be interesting to see if he can beat Roczen in supercross. He has the talent to be at the front but it just hasn't came together for him so far. I expect him to be a factor in both series this season, he has all the experience he needs now in every series.. it is all up to him.
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10/22/2011 7:36am
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike and is looking forward to SX. He shed some light on what went on this past year in Europe......... the equipment was not what people thought. He did not get the "good" stuff. The bikes were not fast and he had more than his share of mechanical issues. Point being he will be on good equipment in 12 from the start and I'll bet he is a contender both here in SX and in MXGP. IMHO.
10/22/2011 7:46am
DL wrote:
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike...
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike and is looking forward to SX. He shed some light on what went on this past year in Europe......... the equipment was not what people thought. He did not get the "good" stuff. The bikes were not fast and he had more than his share of mechanical issues. Point being he will be on good equipment in 12 from the start and I'll bet he is a contender both here in SX and in MXGP. IMHO.
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DL wrote:
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike...
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike and is looking forward to SX. He shed some light on what went on this past year in Europe......... the equipment was not what people thought. He did not get the "good" stuff. The bikes were not fast and he had more than his share of mechanical issues. Point being he will be on good equipment in 12 from the start and I'll bet he is a contender both here in SX and in MXGP. IMHO.
Searle did just fine on the bike.
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Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike...
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike and is looking forward to SX. He shed some light on what went on this past year in Europe......... the equipment was not what people thought. He did not get the "good" stuff. The bikes were not fast and he had more than his share of mechanical issues. Point being he will be on good equipment in 12 from the start and I'll bet he is a contender both here in SX and in MXGP. IMHO.
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Searle did just fine on the bike.
Searle had different/better equipment............. you'll just have to take my word on this. There was so much BS going on all year with that team. It was far from what people thought. The politics sucked.
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mccread wrote:
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing...
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing more on SX style of riding also meant he struggled with his outdoor speed and adapting to the diversity of tracks/countries when he raced the world championship this year, whereas Roczen/Herlings/Searle where fast on everything and even beat him at Glen Helen too. Those two reasons (plus maybe his dad making him not attractive to top teams in US lol) are a big part of why I feel he lost ground on those guys in motocross and why he I believe he should have stayed and raced GPs for a couple of years and established himself as a versatile all round top rider outdoors.. then went to the US for supercross once he had established himself like Roczen has done.

The facts are he went to the US at 13/14 to become a better rider and get a head start on those guys - turns out they are the ones ahead of him in career development, and at a younger age, especially in motocross. Which indicates to me that they made the right choice. Searle has also had more success in his career by going the same route. I think that is a pretty fair observation to make based on what's happened...not sure why that annoys you tbh.

Anstie is a great rider though, with very good technique and brings a lot of colour to the paddock. I just hope he stays injury free this year in Supercross and show what he can do, then race the GPs healthy and finally start to get some wins. It will be interesting to see if he can beat Roczen in supercross. He has the talent to be at the front but it just hasn't came together for him so far. I expect him to be a factor in both series this season, he has all the experience he needs now in every series.. it is all up to him.
Maybe he's just not as good as Roczen.

And, not to stray too far into reality, but generally for most riders the intensity of SX has improved their speed in all disciplines.

And, while I know this is foreign for you Mccread, to go a little further into the land of fact, SX isn't the only discipline where riders get hurt. Probably as many racing and training outdoors as SX.
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10/22/2011 9:13am
mccread wrote:
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing...
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing more on SX style of riding also meant he struggled with his outdoor speed and adapting to the diversity of tracks/countries when he raced the world championship this year, whereas Roczen/Herlings/Searle where fast on everything and even beat him at Glen Helen too. Those two reasons (plus maybe his dad making him not attractive to top teams in US lol) are a big part of why I feel he lost ground on those guys in motocross and why he I believe he should have stayed and raced GPs for a couple of years and established himself as a versatile all round top rider outdoors.. then went to the US for supercross once he had established himself like Roczen has done.

The facts are he went to the US at 13/14 to become a better rider and get a head start on those guys - turns out they are the ones ahead of him in career development, and at a younger age, especially in motocross. Which indicates to me that they made the right choice. Searle has also had more success in his career by going the same route. I think that is a pretty fair observation to make based on what's happened...not sure why that annoys you tbh.

Anstie is a great rider though, with very good technique and brings a lot of colour to the paddock. I just hope he stays injury free this year in Supercross and show what he can do, then race the GPs healthy and finally start to get some wins. It will be interesting to see if he can beat Roczen in supercross. He has the talent to be at the front but it just hasn't came together for him so far. I expect him to be a factor in both series this season, he has all the experience he needs now in every series.. it is all up to him.
Maybe he's just not as good as Roczen. And, not to stray too far into reality, but generally for most riders the intensity of SX has...
Maybe he's just not as good as Roczen.

And, not to stray too far into reality, but generally for most riders the intensity of SX has improved their speed in all disciplines.

And, while I know this is foreign for you Mccread, to go a little further into the land of fact, SX isn't the only discipline where riders get hurt. Probably as many racing and training outdoors as SX.
Not sure what you mean FTE. I mean, there are no GP riders that have been hurt this year riding outdoors are there? Also, supercross never helped Carmichael, Stewart, Reed, Villopoto, Dungey, or anyone else going back 30 years with their starts and jumping skills at all.

I almost wonder if he has a progressive sort of disease that causes delusions of increasing intensity as time goes on...
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10/22/2011 9:21am
good to see more common wealth blokes coming state side

more foreign riders legitimize our sport here in the USA imo Smile
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10/22/2011 9:32am
mccread wrote:
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing...
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing more on SX style of riding also meant he struggled with his outdoor speed and adapting to the diversity of tracks/countries when he raced the world championship this year, whereas Roczen/Herlings/Searle where fast on everything and even beat him at Glen Helen too. Those two reasons (plus maybe his dad making him not attractive to top teams in US lol) are a big part of why I feel he lost ground on those guys in motocross and why he I believe he should have stayed and raced GPs for a couple of years and established himself as a versatile all round top rider outdoors.. then went to the US for supercross once he had established himself like Roczen has done.

The facts are he went to the US at 13/14 to become a better rider and get a head start on those guys - turns out they are the ones ahead of him in career development, and at a younger age, especially in motocross. Which indicates to me that they made the right choice. Searle has also had more success in his career by going the same route. I think that is a pretty fair observation to make based on what's happened...not sure why that annoys you tbh.

Anstie is a great rider though, with very good technique and brings a lot of colour to the paddock. I just hope he stays injury free this year in Supercross and show what he can do, then race the GPs healthy and finally start to get some wins. It will be interesting to see if he can beat Roczen in supercross. He has the talent to be at the front but it just hasn't came together for him so far. I expect him to be a factor in both series this season, he has all the experience he needs now in every series.. it is all up to him.
Maybe he's just not as good as Roczen. And, not to stray too far into reality, but generally for most riders the intensity of SX has...
Maybe he's just not as good as Roczen.

And, not to stray too far into reality, but generally for most riders the intensity of SX has improved their speed in all disciplines.

And, while I know this is foreign for you Mccread, to go a little further into the land of fact, SX isn't the only discipline where riders get hurt. Probably as many racing and training outdoors as SX.
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Not sure what you mean FTE. I mean, there are no GP riders that have been hurt this year riding outdoors are there? Also, supercross never...
Not sure what you mean FTE. I mean, there are no GP riders that have been hurt this year riding outdoors are there? Also, supercross never helped Carmichael, Stewart, Reed, Villopoto, Dungey, or anyone else going back 30 years with their starts and jumping skills at all.

I almost wonder if he has a progressive sort of disease that causes delusions of increasing intensity as time goes on...
BINGO.

People don't talk about this much any more because it goes without saying. The biggest reason American's are faster is because of Supercross. It hones all the skills and makes for a better all around racer. I think if Anstie had stuck around longer he might have had better results, but history shows that most Euro's that come to America get injured in supercross because it is not a focus for the FIM. This inexperience at supercross hurts the young Euro's when they first come over.
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10/22/2011 9:41am Edited Date/Time 10/22/2011 9:42am
I'd just like to disavow any association with Carlo's rantings, which pretty much warrant a room of his own with Mccread.

XOXOX FTE. Wink
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10/22/2011 10:34am Edited Date/Time 10/22/2011 10:39am
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Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing...
Exactly my point Sean - all those injuries in the US are part of what have hurt him, and imo being in the US and focusing more on SX style of riding also meant he struggled with his outdoor speed and adapting to the diversity of tracks/countries when he raced the world championship this year, whereas Roczen/Herlings/Searle where fast on everything and even beat him at Glen Helen too. Those two reasons (plus maybe his dad making him not attractive to top teams in US lol) are a big part of why I feel he lost ground on those guys in motocross and why he I believe he should have stayed and raced GPs for a couple of years and established himself as a versatile all round top rider outdoors.. then went to the US for supercross once he had established himself like Roczen has done.

The facts are he went to the US at 13/14 to become a better rider and get a head start on those guys - turns out they are the ones ahead of him in career development, and at a younger age, especially in motocross. Which indicates to me that they made the right choice. Searle has also had more success in his career by going the same route. I think that is a pretty fair observation to make based on what's happened...not sure why that annoys you tbh.

Anstie is a great rider though, with very good technique and brings a lot of colour to the paddock. I just hope he stays injury free this year in Supercross and show what he can do, then race the GPs healthy and finally start to get some wins. It will be interesting to see if he can beat Roczen in supercross. He has the talent to be at the front but it just hasn't came together for him so far. I expect him to be a factor in both series this season, he has all the experience he needs now in every series.. it is all up to him.
Maybe he's just not as good as Roczen. And, not to stray too far into reality, but generally for most riders the intensity of SX has...
Maybe he's just not as good as Roczen.

And, not to stray too far into reality, but generally for most riders the intensity of SX has improved their speed in all disciplines.

And, while I know this is foreign for you Mccread, to go a little further into the land of fact, SX isn't the only discipline where riders get hurt. Probably as many racing and training outdoors as SX.
Maybe Roczen is better, but I still stand by my point. I don't think going to US helped Max as much as doing GPs for a couple of years from he was fifteen would have with his outdoor speed, because outdoor racing would have been his main priority then and that is all he would have been doing.

Yes I know that, but supercross is very risky, one mistake can have huge consequences.

And being good at supercross doesn't automatically mean you are going to be the best outdoor rider either especially in the World Championship or Britiosh Championship because it is so different ( as Steven Clarke found out this year), there are lots of examples of guys good at supercross intensity and technique but struggle with the challenges in outdoor racing. Of course the opposite is true as well.

That intensity is good for US racing because you need it for there, and in some cases for GP racing but it wasn't the intensity he was lacking.. it was speed and versatility on a variety of tracks that he didn't have compared to the top three.... and that's my point. Racing in the US Amateur series instead of GPs and then US outdoor tracks and practicing supercross, which he has done is totally different to racing the World Championship or British Championship motocross which Roczen/Searle/Herlings etc have done with a lot of success.

Yet again you are viewing this as anti american or something which it isn't or GP v AMA ... which it isn't, stop being so defensive and patriotic.

It's just an observation, based on other guys taking the GP route first, I think going to America at such a young age did not help Max progession as much as he thought it would, and he maybe would have benifitted from racing GPs/British championship from he was fifteen like the other guys.

Max had plenty of time and is talented enough to have went to the US at 17-19 and still pick up supercross and do well there imo, he didn't need to rush it.
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I'd just like to disavow any association with Carlo's rantings, which pretty much warrant a room of his own with Mccread.

XOXOX FTE. Wink
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DL wrote:
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike...
Spent the last two days out at the Ranch on the SX track and Max was there riding his 450. He looked good on the bike and is looking forward to SX. He shed some light on what went on this past year in Europe......... the equipment was not what people thought. He did not get the "good" stuff. The bikes were not fast and he had more than his share of mechanical issues. Point being he will be on good equipment in 12 from the start and I'll bet he is a contender both here in SX and in MXGP. IMHO.
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Searle did just fine on the bike.
DL wrote:
Searle had different/better equipment............. you'll just have to take my word on this. There was so much BS going on all year with that team. It...
Searle had different/better equipment............. you'll just have to take my word on this. There was so much BS going on all year with that team. It was far from what people thought. The politics sucked.
The politics may have sucked, but Max's dad seems to suck in drama with him wherever he goes.

From getting into a fight with jason Anderson's dad and KTM when he was in the amateurs, then having problems with Kawi and supposedly copping things from them. Max's dad is like a black hole. He is just a different form of TA.
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Mccread I personally think Max is probably a BETTER and more rounded rider for going to the States. If it weren't for a list of unfortunate injuries (some of them horrendous) he would have probably achieved some decent results. He has to be one of Europe's best Supercross riders already and a hell of a good Motocross rider. His priority if anything seems to be Supercross, so I don't see how he's lost much ground?
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Anyone know if he will be on a Gariboldi bike or a US team bike?
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Mccread I personally think Max is probably a BETTER and more rounded rider for going to the States. If it weren't for a list of unfortunate...
Mccread I personally think Max is probably a BETTER and more rounded rider for going to the States. If it weren't for a list of unfortunate injuries (some of them horrendous) he would have probably achieved some decent results. He has to be one of Europe's best Supercross riders already and a hell of a good Motocross rider. His priority if anything seems to be Supercross, so I don't see how he's lost much ground?
Agree.

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