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redalert144 10/21/2011 12:33pm
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AJ, do you sell 125 these engines by themselves? If so, what do they go for
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AJ 10/21/2011 12:52pm
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Paul Buckley wrote:
Think there will be a market for all those 250F motors that you pull out of those frames?
Hey Paul,,
I've pulled a lot of the FI CRF250 engines the last few years with our 500AF's ,,
certainly a market- often there is a waiting list for when i pull the next bartch..
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DrSweden 10/21/2011 12:56pm
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So how much does a CRF250 weight, and a CR125 from 02-07 in comparison? Kind a big projekt to change the gas tank, but I hear those EFI ones are thick like a brick, and weight like 1-2 lbs extra?

Pretty damn nice scooter by the way and åretty cool that the stupidity of others (Honda) makes others to prosper (KTM and AJ)! Smile
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tbanks 10/21/2011 1:01pm
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Very nice......I wish I had one

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Berni 10/21/2011 1:06pm
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What I dont understand is why the hell a factory like Honda goes backwards regarding the power in a 125 and a 1995 or 1999 model year engine can be better than a 2003, it is not like they introduced somethin revolutionary at some point that needs one or two years of tunning and testing to make it better, and in a future become something much better than te original. It is going backwards for maybe some reliability in a class where power is the most important thing. And anyways newers cr125 have way to much reliability, they could give something for more power.
mx_phreek 10/21/2011 1:12pm
10/21/2011 1:12pm
AJ any plan's on a FI 250 2stroke?
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AJ 10/21/2011 1:23pm
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mx_phreek wrote:
AJ any plan's on a FI 250 2stroke?
yes,
I would like to see all the AF bikes have a FI option soon, and think that will happen.

250AFi , 500AFi

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burn1986 10/21/2011 1:53pm
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Berni wrote:
What I dont understand is why the hell a factory like Honda goes backwards regarding the power in a 125 and a 1995 or 1999 model...
What I dont understand is why the hell a factory like Honda goes backwards regarding the power in a 125 and a 1995 or 1999 model year engine can be better than a 2003, it is not like they introduced somethin revolutionary at some point that needs one or two years of tunning and testing to make it better, and in a future become something much better than te original. It is going backwards for maybe some reliability in a class where power is the most important thing. And anyways newers cr125 have way to much reliability, they could give something for more power.
The aluminum frame caused problems with the engine not getting a good air flow, thus hindering power. In 2005, they went backwards with the engine (with the head squish band) in an attempt to try and get more horsepower. From 1998 - 2007, there are some mods that you can make to give the bike more air flow, which increases power.
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mxpunk 10/21/2011 1:53pm
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sweeet

is the 99 better then the 96?? i rode my friends 96 a few years back...thing was a top fuel dragster!!
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EvanR127 10/21/2011 2:00pm
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You wouldn't happen to be talking about the HGT Fuel Injection kit on twostrokemx.com?
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GuyB 10/21/2011 2:19pm
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NeWskoolmxer wrote:
Mean machine, If they didn't charge sooooo much.
You know why Service Honda stuff is expensive? For the same reason divorces are expensive.

They're worth it.
Sheriff245 10/21/2011 3:17pm
10/21/2011 3:17pm
This thing is SWEET!
I'm dreaming of a YZ125 engine in a new gen YZ250F chassis. Could this be done in the near future?
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drmarkr 10/21/2011 3:22pm
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I already have one..... ;-)

It's the little brother to my AF500!!

(actually, it's an 05 with Showa forks...next best thing. 134cc motor built by Steve 814, and it RIPS!)





Big brother:

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EvanR127 10/21/2011 3:22pm
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IMO I don't think a yz or RM125 would be better in 4t frame plue the suspension is the same as new four strokes!
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Flatliner 10/21/2011 3:25pm
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mxpunk wrote:
sweeet

is the 99 better then the 96?? i rode my friends 96 a few years back...thing was a top fuel dragster!!
No, at least I didn't think so.
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TerryK 10/21/2011 5:47pm
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Thats a thing of beauty AJ. Once again, well done sir!
neverwasfastenuf 10/21/2011 7:05pm
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NeWskoolmxer wrote:
Mean machine, If they didn't charge sooooo much.
GuyB wrote:
You know why Service Honda stuff is expensive? For the same reason divorces are expensive.

They're worth it.
Smile

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Berni 10/22/2011 6:28am
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Berni wrote:
What I dont understand is why the hell a factory like Honda goes backwards regarding the power in a 125 and a 1995 or 1999 model...
What I dont understand is why the hell a factory like Honda goes backwards regarding the power in a 125 and a 1995 or 1999 model year engine can be better than a 2003, it is not like they introduced somethin revolutionary at some point that needs one or two years of tunning and testing to make it better, and in a future become something much better than te original. It is going backwards for maybe some reliability in a class where power is the most important thing. And anyways newers cr125 have way to much reliability, they could give something for more power.
burn1986 wrote:
The aluminum frame caused problems with the engine not getting a good air flow, thus hindering power. In 2005, they went backwards with the engine (with...
The aluminum frame caused problems with the engine not getting a good air flow, thus hindering power. In 2005, they went backwards with the engine (with the head squish band) in an attempt to try and get more horsepower. From 1998 - 2007, there are some mods that you can make to give the bike more air flow, which increases power.
Actually I drilled some holes in the airbox to my cr125 02', but I did some others thing to the bike at the same time so I dont really know how much the holes improved the power....
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mxpunk 10/22/2011 1:44pm
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mhmm the crf250 is the reason the new cr125 sucks!

i rode an 05 crf250 and i thought it was slow...well, it had no hit at all and was very mellow. totally stock bike though.
Sheriff245 10/22/2011 5:22pm
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EvanR127 wrote:
IMO I don't think a yz or RM125 would be better in 4t frame plue the suspension is the same as new four strokes!
The chassis and ergonomics on the new YZ250F is simply amazing. I love my YZ125, but the chassis is just not up to date.
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Harry_Gray 10/23/2011 4:18pm
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That's a cool ass bike! Can't wait to hear how it runs w/ the FI...
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Harry_Gray 10/23/2011 4:19pm
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NeWskoolmxer wrote:
Mean machine, If they didn't charge sooooo much.
GuyB wrote:
You know why Service Honda stuff is expensive? For the same reason divorces are expensive.

They're worth it.
That's the smartest thing I've heard in awhile/lol...
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bullpen58 10/23/2011 4:31pm
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I want a YZ80 in a YZ250F frame. That thing would RIP!!!! Then, I wanna put a fancy spark plug in it to give it more torque. I'd pay $35,000,000 for a bike like that.
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stangkag 10/23/2011 8:12pm
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bullpen58 wrote:
I want a YZ80 in a YZ250F frame. That thing would RIP!!!! Then, I wanna put a fancy spark plug in it to give it more...
I want a YZ80 in a YZ250F frame. That thing would RIP!!!! Then, I wanna put a fancy spark plug in it to give it more torque. I'd pay $35,000,000 for a bike like that.
A pw50 motor in a YZ450F Frame would be wayyyyy better haha...


Earlier when AJ said a fuel injected CR500AF was in the works, I got the biggest smile ever Smile Brrraaaapppppppp
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AJ 10/24/2011 11:58am
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bullpen58 wrote:
I want a YZ80 in a YZ250F frame. That thing would RIP!!!! Then, I wanna put a fancy spark plug in it to give it more...
I want a YZ80 in a YZ250F frame. That thing would RIP!!!! Then, I wanna put a fancy spark plug in it to give it more torque. I'd pay $35,000,000 for a bike like that.
hey ,lol

i've seen some guy stuff a YZF 400?(or 450) engine in a YSR50
and it workled respectably well, except for a very small fuel capacity..

so pretty much anything is possible..
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bullpen58 10/24/2011 12:07pm
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bullpen58 wrote:
I want a YZ80 in a YZ250F frame. That thing would RIP!!!! Then, I wanna put a fancy spark plug in it to give it more...
I want a YZ80 in a YZ250F frame. That thing would RIP!!!! Then, I wanna put a fancy spark plug in it to give it more torque. I'd pay $35,000,000 for a bike like that.
AJ wrote:
hey ,lol i've seen some guy stuff a YZF 400?(or 450) engine in a YSR50 and it workled respectably well, except for a very small fuel...
hey ,lol

i've seen some guy stuff a YZF 400?(or 450) engine in a YSR50
and it workled respectably well, except for a very small fuel capacity..

so pretty much anything is possible..
OMG!!!! That thing (the YSR400) must be nearly impossible to ride well. Sounds fun though.
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mxpunk 10/24/2011 12:33pm
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i see a few of you have put showa suspension on your cr125's ...

does the showa shock and forks make a big difference??

i read the kyb stuff was good. never moto'd a cr125...
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Chris O'Neal 10/24/2011 1:28pm
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Wasn't the 98-99 motor much slower than the previous years? I had a 95 CR125 and it was faster than my 2002 cr125. Just wondering why not go with a 97 motor? It had way more top end.
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R.Staten 10/24/2011 7:18pm
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neverwasfastenuf wrote:
Very nice, like FTE asked what is the weight? Have you guys done any conversions into a Suzuki AF with the 500 or 250 two stroke...
Very nice, like FTE asked what is the weight? Have you guys done any conversions into a Suzuki AF with the 500 or 250 two stroke motors?
Elsinore Factory has done a 07 RMZ 450 W/ The CR 500 Conversion.

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