Oregon lawmaker continues to push for liability waiver legality.

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Edited Date/Time 12/3/2025 4:57am

Posting this in Non Moto because it isn’t strictly aimed at moto locations and the discourse on this side is usually a tick higher on the maturity scale……

Would this allow more tracks/riding areas to open, or at least keep some from closing?

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https://www.opb.org/article/2025/12/02/oregon-waivers-ski-raft-work-out-recreation/


Lawmaker wants Oregonians to sign waivers to ski, raft and work out

By Bryce Dole (OPB )
Dec. 2, 2025 2:30 p.m.
 

A new bill could rekindle a debate over liability waivers in recreation and fitness.

A Democratic lawmaker wants Oregonians to sign liability waivers before they work out at a gym, hop on a ski lift or use other fitness and recreation facilities.

State Sen. Mark Meek, D-Gladstone, says he is proposing a bill for the upcoming short legislative session that would have Oregon recognize such waivers. Signing one means an adult cannot sue an establishment for negligence.

The waivers are used in neighboring Pacific Northwest states, but not Oregon. That’s because of a 2014 Oregon Supreme Court ruling.

In Bagley v. Mt. Bachelor, Inc., the state’s highest court ruled that an 18-year-old, who was paralyzed in a ski jump accident in 2006, did not lose his right to sue the Central Oregon resort by signing a blanket liability waiver, which the court called “unconscionable.” The ruling made these waivers unenforceable.

Opponents have long argued that such waivers risk customers giving up their rights to go to court and show that a business acted negligently in the case of a tragic accident.

Recreational business owners say the Supreme Court ruling opened them up to lawsuits and expensive legal settlements, causing insurance rates to rise and making it harder to operate without raising prices.

“We’ve got a problem in Oregon where we’re out of balance and it’s the Legislature’s role in my view to bring that back into balance,” said Jeff Kohnstamm, president and area operator at Timberline Lodge.

Kohnstamm was one of several outdoor business owners who testified before the new Senate Interim Committee on Commerce and General Government in November. He blamed the 2014 ruling on the resort’s surging liability insurance premium, rising deductible and ticket prices.

“We consider ourselves a recreation state, but we don’t have the legal infrastructure to allow that to happen,” he said.

Outdoor recreation in Oregon was a nearly $16 billion industry in 2022, according to an analysisproduced by state agencies and Earth Economics, a nonpartisan nonprofit that researches the economic value of natural resources. It also supported about 192,000 full- and- part-time jobs, according to the study, which was published last year.

Oregonians are now waiting to hit the slopes this winter, but ski resorts have had to delay their openings because they don’t have enough snow. Meanwhile, many Oregonians will see higher lift ticket prices.

“At some point, it doesn’t pencil out for ordinary Oregonians to go out and participate in these activities,” said Meek. “They can’t afford it.”

The waivers are a written acknowledgement of the risks inherent in physical activities like skiing at a ski resort or rafting with a guide. Should his bill pass, Meek said the waivers would not have Oregonians sign away their right to sue for gross negligence, or more egregious circumstances in which a facility was unaware of a problem but failed to address it.

But others argue that waivers won’t solve the problem of rising prices.

“You have heard repeatedly from ski operators that their insurance rates were rising unsustainably, that they were struggling to get coverage, and they were on the verge of going out of business,” said Hans Bernard, a lobbyist for the Oregon Trial Lawyers Association.

“Each year these operators raise their lift ticket prices as they had done nearly every year in the decades before the Bagley decision, and we have yet to see any of them cease operations,” Bernard said.

Meek proposed a similar bill that died in the 2025 long legislative session despite bipartisan support. His bill for the 2026 short session has not yet been published on the Oregon Legislature’s website.

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12/3/2025 11:18am

The only people I can see opposing this are insurance companies and lawyers.

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Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to fall, but they're not going to protect you from crossing the track with your tractor on the backside of a blind jump in the middle of practice. Basically all a waiver does is protect you from the unfortunate results caused by the reasonable imperfections of life, which are really just the things people shouldn't be suing for in the first place. 

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byke wrote:
Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to...

Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to fall, but they're not going to protect you from crossing the track with your tractor on the backside of a blind jump in the middle of practice. Basically all a waiver does is protect you from the unfortunate results caused by the reasonable imperfections of life, which are really just the things people shouldn't be suing for in the first place. 

Yup, a waiver is not blanket protection against being sued for negligence, like a lot of people think.

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12/3/2025 12:56pm

There is always a long line of attorneys wanting to sue as many as possible for anything they can.

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12/3/2025 2:18pm
byke wrote:
Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to...

Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to fall, but they're not going to protect you from crossing the track with your tractor on the backside of a blind jump in the middle of practice. Basically all a waiver does is protect you from the unfortunate results caused by the reasonable imperfections of life, which are really just the things people shouldn't be suing for in the first place. 

Moto Nomad wrote:

Yup, a waiver is not blanket protection against being sued for negligence, like a lot of people think.

As a former track operator, I can say that no reasonable person expects insurance to protect them against negligence.

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If you are voluntarily involved in a potentially lethal activity, you should have no recourse to sue anyone for shit. 

Track suing scum are all the same, or at least they used to be. Rich Taylor should receive the RC16 treatment, persona non grata.

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12/3/2025 3:44pm Edited Date/Time 12/3/2025 3:45pm
avidchimp wrote:

The only people I can see opposing this are insurance companies and lawyers.

And those lobbies are the reason why such legislation has such a hard time making it through.  I fought that battle in PA for years- we have Recreational Use of Land and Water protection in statute here, but it doesn't protect against filing a lawsuit, regardless of how frivolous.  We tried to get it amended just to make the plaintiff liable for costs if the a lawsuit is thrown out, but the trial lawyers wouldn't let it off the ground.

On an unrelated note, what do you call a bus load of lawyers going over a cliff?

12/3/2025 10:29pm
byke wrote:
Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to...

Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to fall, but they're not going to protect you from crossing the track with your tractor on the backside of a blind jump in the middle of practice. Basically all a waiver does is protect you from the unfortunate results caused by the reasonable imperfections of life, which are really just the things people shouldn't be suing for in the first place. 

General liability waivers go beyond “reasonable imperfections” and are durable against simple negligence. Driving a tractor onto a blind part of an active track is gross negligence, and gross negligence cannot be waved as a matter of public policy. So if you sign the AMA waiver, most jurisdictions will require you to prove the track operator was grossly negligent to win a lawsuit. 

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byke wrote:
Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to...

Waivers don't actually do all that much. They'll protect you from something like not fully discing up a rut on a track that causes someone to fall, but they're not going to protect you from crossing the track with your tractor on the backside of a blind jump in the middle of practice. Basically all a waiver does is protect you from the unfortunate results caused by the reasonable imperfections of life, which are really just the things people shouldn't be suing for in the first place. 

General liability waivers go beyond “reasonable imperfections” and are durable against simple negligence. Driving a tractor onto a blind part of an active track is gross...

General liability waivers go beyond “reasonable imperfections” and are durable against simple negligence. Driving a tractor onto a blind part of an active track is gross negligence, and gross negligence cannot be waved as a matter of public policy. So if you sign the AMA waiver, most jurisdictions will require you to prove the track operator was grossly negligent to win a lawsuit. 

But they can still bring a lawsuit, and that still costs the defendant. 

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