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TeamGreen
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9/7/2023 8:07pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2023 3:08pm
early wrote:
I don't get why your taking the position that all alternative schools are religious ​​​​​I keep saying it because that's what the religious right says...

I don't get why your taking the position that all alternative schools are religious

​​​​​I keep saying it because that's what the religious right says they want to do. This is on the website for the Family Research Council which is an rightwing organization started by Edgar Prince. Edgar Prince is the father of Eric Prince and Betsy Devos. Eric Prince was founder of Blackwater the Iraq War mercenary group. Betsy Devos is married to the head of Amway (the original mlm scam) and was appointed the secretary of education by trump. 

They got the courts lined up, they got the state legislatures lined up, 7 mountains.

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vet323 wrote:
You copied this: I don't get why your taking the position that all alternative schools are religious And then talked about a single right-wing religious...

You copied this:

I don't get why your taking the position that all alternative schools are religious

And then talked about a single right-wing religious organization. How does that make all alternative schools religious?

 

early wrote:
The school voucher program has been a trojan horse for the religious right to funnel tax money to Christian schools, they are saying it right there...

The school voucher program has been a trojan horse for the religious right to funnel tax money to Christian schools, they are saying it right there. Betsy Devos the secretary of education, the highest education position in the country was pushing it.

 

My kid went to an alternate school: it was an Art School in Santa Ana, CA. It was run by the county. 

I’m jus’ sayin’…

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9/8/2023 5:49am
TeamGreen wrote:

My kid went to an alternate school: it was an Art School in Santa Ana, CA. It was run by the county. 

I’m jus’ sayin’…

I'm glad your daughter had that opportunity.  That's not the same as vouchers and charter schools. Around my parts they took all technical classes (shop, etc) out of the local schools and moved them to the county vocational school. It probably made those technical classes better but decreased the range of students that are able to take them.

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9/8/2023 7:21am
ToolMaker wrote:
My guess is the public schools in your state are a disaster. And I won't confine it to your state. They all are a disaster unless...

My guess is the public schools in your state are a disaster. And I won't confine it to your state. They all are a disaster unless the student has real initiative or has strong parental involvement. And yes I know there are exceptions.

early wrote:
Suburban and subrural schools are generally pretty good. Rural and urban schools struggle more just like everywhere else.  20 years ago Ohio was near the top...

Suburban and subrural schools are generally pretty good. Rural and urban schools struggle more just like everywhere else. 

20 years ago Ohio was near the top of US school rankings, now it's near the middle. The state has gotten more Red in that time and the state legislature and court is now completely locked up with Republican rule. Most people I went to school with moved out of state or to Columbus which is by far the most liberal part of the state. Theres a brain drain in most other parts of the state, but people do stick around for family obligations, and what used to be cheaper living conditions although that seems to be disappearing too. 

20 years ago, when Ohio was near the top, they spent roughly $8400/yr per student. Today Ohio spends $13,000/yr per student (equal to inflation). It's not the money.

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9/8/2023 7:57am
vet323 wrote:
20 years ago, when Ohio was near the top, they spent roughly $8400/yr per student. Today Ohio spends $13,000/yr per student (equal to inflation). It's not...

20 years ago, when Ohio was near the top, they spent roughly $8400/yr per student. Today Ohio spends $13,000/yr per student (equal to inflation). It's not the money.

You ate right, money is not everything, the people in this state have gotten worse.

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9/8/2023 3:11pm
TeamGreen wrote:

My kid went to an alternate school: it was an Art School in Santa Ana, CA. It was run by the county. 

I’m jus’ sayin’…

early wrote:
I'm glad your daughter had that opportunity.  That's not the same as vouchers and charter schools. Around my parts they took all technical classes (shop, etc)...

I'm glad your daughter had that opportunity.  That's not the same as vouchers and charter schools. Around my parts they took all technical classes (shop, etc) out of the local schools and moved them to the county vocational school. It probably made those technical classes better but decreased the range of students that are able to take them.

The assigned funding followed her to the Art School.

As for the vocational aspect? I'm in total agreement.

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9/8/2023 3:43pm
ToolMaker wrote:
My guess is the public schools in your state are a disaster. And I won't confine it to your state. They all are a disaster unless...

My guess is the public schools in your state are a disaster. And I won't confine it to your state. They all are a disaster unless the student has real initiative or has strong parental involvement. And yes I know there are exceptions.

early wrote:
Suburban and subrural schools are generally pretty good. Rural and urban schools struggle more just like everywhere else.  20 years ago Ohio was near the top...

Suburban and subrural schools are generally pretty good. Rural and urban schools struggle more just like everywhere else. 

20 years ago Ohio was near the top of US school rankings, now it's near the middle. The state has gotten more Red in that time and the state legislature and court is now completely locked up with Republican rule. Most people I went to school with moved out of state or to Columbus which is by far the most liberal part of the state. Theres a brain drain in most other parts of the state, but people do stick around for family obligations, and what used to be cheaper living conditions although that seems to be disappearing too. 

In this area all public schools are shit. Parents, teachers, administration don't care. I really don't think this is a repu lican/democrat issue. It starts with parents not giving a shit about themselves, having kids they care even less about. How can teachers not have bad attitudes? A teacher friend of mine at a well funded "good" school states that none of the parents show up for parent teacher conferences. I have high school kids that work for me that don't even know what their folks do for a living, let alone have dinner with them. Add all this to public school's perverse agendas and it is a shit show. 

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