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4/13/2020 11:16am
Hi guys!
I'm trying to setup my suspension well, but i have a little difficulty with that...
I have a 2019' sxf350.
My front fork is Wp cone valve from 2014, the rear shock is a Trax without trax mechanism...
I heart the fork is shorter, than Black CVs with 6mm, and 12mm from AER.
I trying to compensate with put down in the clamps, 1.5 preload on the springs(left: 4.6nm, right :4.4nm - 76kg) and a WPTuner put a 3mm washer to the top of the springs. The rear sag is 106mm.
On the tripleclamp picture you can see how i use on loose condition track. It means 1mm from the top of the fork.
If i go up the forks with 2mm, it will unstable front.
Im thinking about, to raise the wheelbase and i can go upper whit the forks. What do you think about this?
Im not sure the trail will change that much, what is enught to put the forks higher in the clamps. If you see the picture from the rear axel it could go back with 10-12 mm... (final gear ratio 14:51)
Could this changes good, or stay on my a$$, and ride with this experienced setup?
Other question, how the wheelbase affect the trail?
Thanks!
I'm trying to setup my suspension well, but i have a little difficulty with that...
I have a 2019' sxf350.
My front fork is Wp cone valve from 2014, the rear shock is a Trax without trax mechanism...
I heart the fork is shorter, than Black CVs with 6mm, and 12mm from AER.
I trying to compensate with put down in the clamps, 1.5 preload on the springs(left: 4.6nm, right :4.4nm - 76kg) and a WPTuner put a 3mm washer to the top of the springs. The rear sag is 106mm.
On the tripleclamp picture you can see how i use on loose condition track. It means 1mm from the top of the fork.
If i go up the forks with 2mm, it will unstable front.
Im thinking about, to raise the wheelbase and i can go upper whit the forks. What do you think about this?
Im not sure the trail will change that much, what is enught to put the forks higher in the clamps. If you see the picture from the rear axel it could go back with 10-12 mm... (final gear ratio 14:51)
Could this changes good, or stay on my a$$, and ride with this experienced setup?
Other question, how the wheelbase affect the trail?
Thanks!
Maybe you need to adjust your clickers for a more even ride, it’s not just fork height and sag that give you balence.
I measured different ratios at the rear axle to get now how can i calculate the wheelbase. So i run with 14:51 with 116 chainlink for 3 years, this is what i prefer, not longer. I tried first to put 1 more link, but i couldnt extend the chain, cuz i reach the backside of the swingarm.
Second idea was i should run with 13:47, which is almost the same ratio, but i have to get out 1 link... If i change with 1 teeth less at the rear, it means +5mm on the wheelbase. Picture: 13:48 redline in the middle. (13:48 with 114link). So if i use 13:47 i get + 7-8mm wheelbase. But if i use 14:52 i think, i reach almost the longest wheelbase in the swingarm...
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Everyone is different. They have different riding styles, are different heights and weights, different skill level, etc., so there's no one clear answer. OLn top of that, the tracks and riding types are all different.
It's why I always laugh at a 1mm longer "performance link" being the answer for everyone. Have you ever seen a link sold that's shorter than stock? They're always 1mm or 1.5mm longer. You'd think the OEMs would figure out that they've been making them just a bit too short for years!
Get the bike to a reasonable baseline (sag set around 108, forks a couple lines up, correct spring rates and valving) and ride it. Get comfortable enough to understand what feels off (at least a couple laps) and adjust accordingly. Adjust one thing at a time so you have a good understanding of what does what. Repeat over the course of a day and you should end up at a pretty good setting, or at least get 90% of the way there and be able to change it up for different track conditions.
Could you tell me what cause the 1mm longer link?
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