Will Suzuki update the RM-Z in 2023?

Grouper wrote:

I’d prefer to not have it, it’s just another thing to break. But we see from two different hills is all, no biggie.

deadlo wrote:

Just don’t own a dirtbike brah, it’s just another thing to break.

fourfourone wrote:

no sir, don't get mad because you got called out a few times.

fourfourone wrote:

no sir, don't get mad because you got called out a few times.

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Not mad. You are aware that people can see your entire posting history with the click of a single button? You seem miserable. Cheer up guy.

Grouper wrote:

They aren’t answers. I’m being serious and you’re being a total femboy about it.

H.E.penyypacker432 wrote:

You’re just a troll. You’ve gotten legitimate answers over and over.

Grouper wrote:

My original question was “ Can someone give me a real reason why they need it to have an electric start?” I want legit performance reasons...

My original question was

“ Can someone give me a real reason why they need it to have an electric start?”

I want legit performance reasons that you all demand electric start out of a bike. So far I have gotten “it’s 2022”, “I like it”, “cars have electric start and AC”.

These are illogical and don’t make any sense. They are not answers. You, however, are a true product of the modern age. You cry and name call when someone pushes back at your sacred commentary. Get your test levels checked, you act feminine.

H.E.penyypacker432 wrote:

You’re just a troll. You’ve gotten legitimate answers over and over.

Grouper wrote:

My original question was “ Can someone give me a real reason why they need it to have an electric start?” I want legit performance reasons...

My original question was

“ Can someone give me a real reason why they need it to have an electric start?”

I want legit performance reasons that you all demand electric start out of a bike. So far I have gotten “it’s 2022”, “I like it”, “cars have electric start and AC”.

These are illogical and don’t make any sense. They are not answers. You, however, are a true product of the modern age. You cry and name call when someone pushes back at your sacred commentary. Get your test levels checked, you act feminine.

stax wrote:

I have an rmz450 2018 until this year. I raced one sixdays, 3 enduro championship and 2 motocross championship in the same bike and never had...

I have an rmz450 2018 until this year. I raced one sixdays, 3 enduro championship and 2 motocross championship in the same bike and never had any problem (always doing best maintainence).

In my opinion when you are tired, dont want to loose time or in enduro when your bike stops on a hill, the electric starts really benefit you . Also in hot the bike has trouble to start.

But that doesnt make you go faster so you dont really needed

MotofactioN wrote:

I have an 18 rmz450 and I love it. I don’t mind the kickstart at all but my Kickstarter bolt just randomly decided to break off...

I have an 18 rmz450 and I love it. I don’t mind the kickstart at all but my Kickstarter bolt just randomly decided to break off the other day for some reason. Now I get to attempt to extract the broken bolt.

Honestly bring on the E start, fuck kickstarters. I’m over it after this bolt breaking lol

USA wrote:

Holy shit. You must be the guy from that commercial, "My kickstarter is busted! Where do you get your parts?"

fourfourone wrote:

no sir, don't get mad because you got called out a few times.

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Not mad. You are aware that people can see your entire posting history with the click of a single button? You seem miserable. Cheer up guy.

fourfourone wrote:

lol, trying to start an argument seems pretty ironic in this case.

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Not mad. You are aware that people can see your entire posting history with the click of a single button? You seem miserable. Cheer up guy.

fourfourone wrote:

lol, trying to start an argument seems pretty ironic in this case.

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Who's arguing? I hope you find happiness, whatever it is that's making you so miserable.

racinstation wrote:

5 pages and not one shred of valuable information regarding the thread title?

TheGetFresh wrote:

When you’re under the physiological stress of a race and your heart rate is above 180, restarting a bike with a kick starter can be a...

When you’re under the physiological stress of a race and your heart rate is above 180, restarting a bike with a kick starter can be a little tricky. Even if it starts on the first kick at the truck you probably don’t realize how subtle your control manipulation is during the process of kickstarting a bike, and that subtlety can disappear when you’re picking your bike up in a corner, heart rate pinned as other riders tear past you. One kick turns to 3–maybe more. And that’s if you remembered to put the bike in neutral. All this is after you’ve fumbled to find the kick lever, too.

All this add to seconds, which are a clear metric of performance. A tip over or stall on an e-start bike, pull the clutch, hit the button, carry on in a matter of a few seconds. A tip over or stall on a kick start bike, and you’re losing at least 5 seconds more than the estart. Any piece of tech that can guarantee saving time is a performance advantage.

Back to the matter at hand, I really don’t think Suzuki is that far behind except for the kick start. I mentioned in another thread that I was looking through my old mags and found the dirt rider 2015 shootout wherein the yz450f took top marks. That bike is substantially similar to the 2022 yz450 that has won the big shootouts. Moreover, people praised the bike for its compliant chassis and best off the shelf suspension in 2015… and in 2022.

All this is to suggest that the difference in bikes now vs. 7 or even 10 years ago isn’t as big as we think. Honda and KTM has had 2 ground up redesigns since 2015, Kawasaki has had 1, but the differences don’t indicate a major leap forward, just a rework with slight improvements throughout. Even with those major reworks the evaluation of those bikes still boil down to frame, engine, chassis and the cooperation among those part groups. Suzuki has an outdated platform but the bike is a few changes away from being as modern as any of the other Japanese bikes.

Luke_Richards wrote:

One of these weirdos took the time to find me on Instagram and message me to call me a faggot Suzuki fan boy

fourfourone wrote:

This forum is going downhill.

Grouper wrote:

Can someone give me a real reason why they need it to have an electric start? More weight, center of gravity height increase, increased chance of...

Can someone give me a real reason why they need it to have an electric start? More weight, center of gravity height increase, increased chance of failure, you have to kick it like you have your whole life unless this is your first year riding.

Not to mention, my RM-Z never started on the second kick. Always first. I'm failing to see why this makes everyone cry.

Dirty Points wrote:

Despite having a kicker, The RMZ is the heaviest 450.

TeamGreen wrote:

That and the electric boys don't seem to spend 1/2 of a heat race trying to re-start their bikes after a crash or stall...

Dirty Points wrote:

Despite having a kicker, The RMZ is the heaviest 450.

TeamGreen wrote:

That and the electric boys don't seem to spend 1/2 of a heat race trying to re-start their bikes after a crash or stall...

resetjet wrote:

Exactly i saw a suzuki guy in arlington coverage kicking away!!!!

Suzukifan2019 wrote:

I really don't know what's going on with Bogle, he get lapped as fast as he was riding a 250. so it's definetely not a bike...

I really don't know what's going on with Bogle, he get lapped as fast as he was riding a 250. so it's definetely not a bike problem (Brandon is doing better results) , it's more a mental/physical problem.
HeP team is i think too kind with its riders...i wonder how they can find motivation after such average results?

Dirty Points wrote:

Despite having a kicker, The RMZ is the heaviest 450.

TeamGreen wrote:

That and the electric boys don't seem to spend 1/2 of a heat race trying to re-start their bikes after a crash or stall...

resetjet wrote:

Exactly i saw a suzuki guy in arlington coverage kicking away!!!!

HonDawg17 wrote:

What is a Suzuki? They still make dirt bikes? They died in 2015.