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9/24/2020 11:15 PM

How will he do? Photo

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9/25/2020 3:49 AM

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Hahah I see Mitchel Falk is still a bit salty. But I agree, this was a good move for him.
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9/25/2020 5:46 AM

How does KTM let another good amateur prospect go?? If i were Rodger i would be having some serious meetings & find out whats going on. KTM knew that jett Lawrence was going to be a big talent from watching him in Europe & they never took him on either. The last big successful runs KTM had in 250s was when they brought marvin & kenny over from Europe. Husky had great success with Osborne but when he was winning in 250s he was about 10 years older than the competition.

KTM / Husky / Gas Gas really need to sort there amateur to Pro program out.

& while there at it, they need to pull another 2-3HP up the start straight & get competive again!

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9/25/2020 6:03 AM

Matthes mentioned this on PulpMX, if you are a hot amateur prospect, how can you resist one of those Star bikes?

That said, sure seems like Star doesn’t shy away from shady business dealings.

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9/25/2020 6:20 AM

Mega Racing wrote:

How does KTM let another good amateur prospect go?? If i were Rodger i would be having some serious meetings & find out whats going on. KTM knew that jett Lawrence was going to be a big talent from watching him in Europe & they never took him on either. The last big successful runs KTM had in 250s was when they brought marvin & kenny over from Europe. Husky had great success with Osborne but when he was winning in 250s he was about 10 years older than the competition.

KTM / Husky / Gas Gas really need to sort there amateur to Pro program out.

& while there at it, they need to pull another 2-3HP up the start straight & get competive again!

They put their eggs in the wrong basket with TLD years ago. It seems like they have finally understood that with bringing the 250 program inhouse again.

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9/25/2020 6:52 AM

Where does that leave Masterpool? Is he a free agent?

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9/25/2020 6:53 AM

KTM normally has amazing talent scouts in Europe. Watch Hofer and Vialle

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9/25/2020 6:56 AM

Cooper, Thrasher, Frye on the 250s. They have to keep Masterpool or? They won't renew Nichols contract then I assume?

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9/25/2020 7:05 AM

I thought the word was Masterpool was out. Maybe leading those laps made them have a change of heart.

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Here's to feeling good all the time

9/25/2020 7:06 AM

What does Falk have to be salty about he hasn't performed to really show he deserves a ride.

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9/25/2020 7:13 AM

Thrasher has moved around a couple of times. I don't think it's any shady dealings. I know he was on KTM 65's, then he was a Team Green rider very briefly. Then back to Orange Brigade/TLD. Now Star. His family is pretty wealthy, I am sure he just wants the best equipment.

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9/25/2020 7:35 AM

mjr119 wrote:

Thrasher has moved around a couple of times. I don't think it's any shady dealings. I know he was on KTM 65's, then he was a Team Green rider very briefly. Then back to Orange Brigade/TLD. Now Star. His family is pretty wealthy, I am sure he just wants the best equipment.

I certainly dont blame the guy. If i were him id go star too. Your more or less guaranteed a top 4 start & to be surrounded by your teammates up front!

I think the other manufacturers need to up there game. Which is odd because in GPs the KTMs are always up front off the start.

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9/25/2020 7:42 AM

mjr119 wrote:

Thrasher has moved around a couple of times. I don't think it's any shady dealings. I know he was on KTM 65's, then he was a Team Green rider very briefly. Then back to Orange Brigade/TLD. Now Star. His family is pretty wealthy, I am sure he just wants the best equipment.

Mega Racing wrote:

I certainly dont blame the guy. If i were him id go star too. Your more or less guaranteed a top 4 start & to be surrounded by your teammates up front!

I think the other manufacturers need to up there game. Which is odd because in GPs the KTMs are always up front off the start.

The factory KTM's in the GP's basically only share the orange plastics with their US counterparts.

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9/25/2020 7:46 AM

Mavetism wrote:

Cooper, Thrasher, Frye on the 250s. They have to keep Masterpool or? They won't renew Nichols contract then I assume?

Nichols' contract ends this year. I think he's in a bad spot. He didn't ride much because of his injury, so not much results and there's other guys making their debut on Star Yamaha.

Not many rides to go around either.

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"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

9/25/2020 7:57 AM

Mavetism wrote:

Cooper, Thrasher, Frye on the 250s. They have to keep Masterpool or? They won't renew Nichols contract then I assume?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Nichols' contract ends this year. I think he's in a bad spot. He didn't ride much because of his injury, so not much results and there's other guys making their debut on Star Yamaha.

Not many rides to go around either.

He had 3 podiums in SX this year of the 5 races he ran. SX is uber important to the OEM's, I will be shocked if he isn't back at Star.

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9/25/2020 8:18 AM

Mavetism wrote:

Cooper, Thrasher, Frye on the 250s. They have to keep Masterpool or? They won't renew Nichols contract then I assume?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Nichols' contract ends this year. I think he's in a bad spot. He didn't ride much because of his injury, so not much results and there's other guys making their debut on Star Yamaha.

Not many rides to go around either.

i hope he isnt in a bad spot. i grew up watching him and bogle race here in oklahoma. colt has had some good rides in sx, and he is back on the bike now. i hope they both have a ride when the time comes.

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9/25/2020 8:44 AM

Thrasher, Vohland, Reynolds... 2025 MXoN champs, stamp it

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9/25/2020 8:56 AM

LungButter wrote:

Matthes mentioned this on PulpMX, if you are a hot amateur prospect, how can you resist one of those Star bikes?

That said, sure seems like Star doesn’t shy away from shady business dealings.

I don't understand how it is "shady". Gas Gas/KTM, Star Yamaha, Barcia and Thrasher all needed to agree to get this done and they all did. Sounds more like smart business on all sides if you ask me. And we know what we're going to get with Barcia.....top 4-5 in sx and outdoors. What do we know about Thrasher? He's unproven in the pro class and could be the next Tomac or the next Aldredge, Cantrel, etc. It's more of a gamble for Yamaha, they just gave up their top producer over the last 5 years or so.

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9/25/2020 9:05 AM

Motofinne wrote:

They put their eggs in the wrong basket with TLD years ago. It seems like they have finally understood that with bringing the 250 program inhouse again.

Yeah....now TLD is the full Factory 450 and 250 team for GasGas, they sure showed them they don't trust them.....

As far as Star, you guys are completely right, they have never done shading dealings to get riders from other teams, especially involving amateurs. I apologize for making such a statement, Star is clearly known for doing everything on the up and up, honoring contracts, never protesting for ridiculous reasons, treating all media fairly, etc. Amazing team when it comes to business practice no doubt....

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9/25/2020 9:13 AM

Motofinne wrote:

They put their eggs in the wrong basket with TLD years ago. It seems like they have finally understood that with bringing the 250 program inhouse again.

the move from KTM to GasGas should be a very good one in my opinion. they've been struggling to get a decent suspension package for a LONG time.

should be interesting to say the least

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9/25/2020 9:37 AM

Mavetism wrote:

Cooper, Thrasher, Frye on the 250s. They have to keep Masterpool or? They won't renew Nichols contract then I assume?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Nichols' contract ends this year. I think he's in a bad spot. He didn't ride much because of his injury, so not much results and there's other guys making their debut on Star Yamaha.

Not many rides to go around either.

JBlain619 wrote:

He had 3 podiums in SX this year of the 5 races he ran. SX is uber important to the OEM's, I will be shocked if he isn't back at Star.

There's no denying he's had great results, but he's only had 1 great season since turning pro and he'll be 27 years old in March.

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He could very well end up back at Star Yamaha with a pay cut. He was riding great until he got hurt again.

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"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

9/25/2020 10:19 AM

Cortami79 wrote:

KTM normally has amazing talent scouts in Europe. Watch Hofer and Vialle

Is it talent scouts? Or is that bike just THAT good over there?

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9/25/2020 10:20 AM

I like Nichols, unfortunately I don’t see him back at Yamaha. Again, I think the team who stands the most to gain out of the 250 musical chairs this season is JGR. Masterpool*, Marchbanks, Nichols, are all possibly on the market. New casino money for JGR and they can pickup some great riders.

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9/25/2020 10:22 AM

Mega Racing wrote:

How does KTM let another good amateur prospect go?? If i were Rodger i would be having some serious meetings & find out whats going on. KTM knew that jett Lawrence was going to be a big talent from watching him in Europe & they never took him on either. The last big successful runs KTM had in 250s was when they brought marvin & kenny over from Europe. Husky had great success with Osborne but when he was winning in 250s he was about 10 years older than the competition.

KTM / Husky / Gas Gas really need to sort there amateur to Pro program out.

& while there at it, they need to pull another 2-3HP up the start straight & get competive again!

Motofinne wrote:

They put their eggs in the wrong basket with TLD years ago. It seems like they have finally understood that with bringing the 250 program inhouse again.

LungButter wrote:

Yeah....now TLD is the full Factory 450 and 250 team for GasGas, they sure showed them they don't trust them.....

As far as Star, you guys are completely right, they have never done shading dealings to get riders from other teams, especially involving amateurs. I apologize for making such a statement, Star is clearly known for doing everything on the up and up, honoring contracts, never protesting for ridiculous reasons, treating all media fairly, etc. Amazing team when it comes to business practice no doubt....


If you think star is really that bad, while I think is more some goofy or temperamental stuffs, then you would be reaaallly shocked at general business practices. The world is not white or black, but mostly grey. I wrote a couple pages about it in a thesis, and found in total, in the world, 13.000 billion dollars of identified frauds & other shady stuffs over a 30 years period. (about 100% of the average GDP of the US, through 30 years).

Right now for instance, Nikola looked to have shady practices ... by frauding just 30 billions to investors wink
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9/25/2020 10:28 AM

Question wrote:
If you think star is really that bad, while I think is more some goofy or temperamental stuffs, then you would be reaaallly shocked at general business practices. The world is not white or black, but mostly grey. I wrote a couple pages about it in a thesis, and found in total, in the world, 13.000 billion dollars of identified frauds & other shady stuffs over a 30 years period. (about 100% of the average GDP of the US, through 30 years).

Right now for instance, Nikola looked to have shady practices ... by frauding just 30 billions to investors wink

I have zero idea what you’re saying.

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9/25/2020 10:44 AM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Nichols' contract ends this year. I think he's in a bad spot. He didn't ride much because of his injury, so not much results and there's other guys making their debut on Star Yamaha.

Not many rides to go around either.

JBlain619 wrote:

He had 3 podiums in SX this year of the 5 races he ran. SX is uber important to the OEM's, I will be shocked if he isn't back at Star.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

There's no denying he's had great results, but he's only had 1 great season since turning pro and he'll be 27 years old in March.

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He could very well end up back at Star Yamaha with a pay cut. He was riding great until he got hurt again.

I'm completely with you about his career and injuries but follow my reasoning here...

They lose both Ferrandis and McElrath(assuming he isn't granted his appeal). Justin will be the only guy that has podiumed that is currently on their roster.

Going into '21, they will have Craig, Cooper, and 2 rookies. There is no way in hell I'm banking a title or wins on CC. If you're looking at Colt's past, you have to do the same with CC. He's 30 years old and has 1 win to his name. IMO Colt has a better upside than CC. Thrasher and Frye both have 0 SX experience so anything they do inside the top 10 is success.


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9/25/2020 10:46 AM

nskerb wrote:

I have zero idea what you’re saying.

I think he is trying to draw a comparison from scams being run in the business world to Star racing having a reputation for less than stellar morals in contract dealings.

Pure speculation on my part.

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9/25/2020 10:55 AM

The other thing to add, TLD KTM struggled big time trying to get bikes figured out over the past 2 years. That is the main reason why everyone left last year. With them going to a new GasGas bike, I am sure people may be worried about it taking a year or 2 to get the bikes dialed in.

Rookies now a day usually only get 2 years to make a name for themself and I would rather be on a proven bike.

Those Star bikes are FAST!!

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9/25/2020 10:57 AM

JBlain619 wrote:

He had 3 podiums in SX this year of the 5 races he ran. SX is uber important to the OEM's, I will be shocked if he isn't back at Star.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

There's no denying he's had great results, but he's only had 1 great season since turning pro and he'll be 27 years old in March.

Photo

He could very well end up back at Star Yamaha with a pay cut. He was riding great until he got hurt again.

JBlain619 wrote:

I'm completely with you about his career and injuries but follow my reasoning here...

They lose both Ferrandis and McElrath(assuming he isn't granted his appeal). Justin will be the only guy that has podiumed that is currently on their roster.

Going into '21, they will have Craig, Cooper, and 2 rookies. There is no way in hell I'm banking a title or wins on CC. If you're looking at Colt's past, you have to do the same with CC. He's 30 years old and has 1 win to his name. IMO Colt has a better upside than CC. Thrasher and Frye both have 0 SX experience so anything they do inside the top 10 is success.


I agree with this. Colt has had a lot of injuries but he has tons of talent. I could see him being the sx champ next year

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9/25/2020 10:58 AM

Zycki11 wrote:

I like Nichols, unfortunately I don’t see him back at Yamaha. Again, I think the team who stands the most to gain out of the 250 musical chairs this season is JGR. Masterpool*, Marchbanks, Nichols, are all possibly on the market. New casino money for JGR and they can pickup some great riders.

Has anyone head if they are having 2 spots for 250 this year? The only people on the market I would take over Amart is Masterpool and Marchbanks. I think Amart is a solid choice over Nichols next year. You’ll get podiums and an occasional win with Amart but he won’t crash out and teams want visibility.

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