Racer X "Top Ten Imports"...WTF!

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is it me or does anyone else think they forgot to add Fonseca? there are some riders listed there that weren't as good as him and one never won a championship.
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rgmx-49 2/10/2011 4:59pm
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its sad that you won 2 sx 125 championship titles and arent even mentionedSad
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I believe Tampa SX was his debut and he was one of two people hucking this huge triple right out of corner in the tiddler class. i think Lytle was the other one. The Fonz had us hooked as fans ever since and he proved to be something special.

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rmpilot 2/10/2011 5:06pm
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so who was fonseca better than? the only one i could see any arguing with is pichon just because his best years were in europe.
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great racer and person, very friendly to everyone.
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rgmx-49 2/10/2011 5:09pm
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rmpilot wrote:
so who was fonseca better than? the only one i could see any arguing with is pichon just because his best years were in europe.
DV12 for example.
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rmpilot 2/10/2011 5:12pm
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vuillimen was a much better rider and who knows fonseca could have turned that final coner if he hadnt got hurt but as it stands to me there is absolutely no argument on that one.
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rgmx-49 2/10/2011 5:15pm
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rmpilot wrote:
vuillimen was a much better rider and who knows fonseca could have turned that final coner if he hadnt got hurt but as it stands to...
vuillimen was a much better rider and who knows fonseca could have turned that final coner if he hadnt got hurt but as it stands to me there is absolutely no argument on that one.
so DV(no championships) is better in your opinion than Fonseca(2x lites champion)?
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rmpilot 2/10/2011 5:28pm
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yes he won in the premier class. im not saying theres no worth to fonsecas championships but they were regional titles and it is not as high on the list. vuillimen was beating some of the best riders ever.
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GuyB 2/10/2011 5:32pm
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Every time I start to argue about Lites SX championships, some people say, "It's only a regional championship."

And no, I'm not saying I agree with them.
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rgmx-49 2/10/2011 5:33pm
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yes he won in the premier class. im not saying theres no worth to fonsecas championships but they were regional titles and it is not as...
yes he won in the premier class. im not saying theres no worth to fonsecas championships but they were regional titles and it is not as high on the list. vuillimen was beating some of the best riders ever.
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2006: 6th in AMA Supercross, 10th in AMA Motocross.
2005: 4th (250/450F cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross)
2004: 4th (250cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross)
2003: 7th (250cc supercross), 6th (250/450F cc motocross)

Fonz
2005
6th AMA 250 Supercross Series
3rd AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2004
27th AMA 250 Supercross Series [missed most of season due to injury]
5th AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2003
3rd AMA 250 Supercross Series
8th AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2002
7th AMA 250 Supercross Series
4th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
2001
1st AMA 125 Western Region Supercross Series
8th AMA 125 East/West Supercross Shootout
3rd AMA 125 National Motocross Series
2000
5th AMA 125 Eastern Region Supercross Series
7th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
1999
1st AMA 125 Eastern Region Supercross Series
8th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
1999 AMA Rookie of the Year

how is DV better?
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Ddavis 2/10/2011 5:35pm
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I think Fonseca's career is overshadowed due to the fact that he got hurt.

If not for that, he was a solid top 5 guy and all around nice guy. Sort of like Andrew Short, but with 2 championships.
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rmpilot 2/10/2011 5:35pm
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was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as soon as someone can put another title in place of it.
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rgmx-49 2/10/2011 5:38pm
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rmpilot wrote:
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as...
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as soon as someone can put another title in place of it.
RV doesn't have 450 title...do you think less of him because of that?
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rgmx-49 2/10/2011 5:41pm
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rmpilot wrote:
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as...
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as soon as someone can put another title in place of it.
if lites title don't matter why do they have Pourcel in the top 10 when he's only got lites titles? Lites titles are a huge accomplishment just like any other title.
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rmpilot 2/10/2011 5:46pm
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rmpilot wrote:
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as...
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as soon as someone can put another title in place of it.
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RV doesn't have 450 title...do you think less of him because of that?
pourcel has won a lot of races outside and villopoto has 2 outdoor titles.

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rmpilot 2/10/2011 5:47pm
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and didnt vuillimen give mcgrath a run for his money?
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rgmx-49 2/10/2011 5:50pm
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rmpilot wrote:
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as...
was just putting them in context, because lets face does anyone care that mcgrath or langston won 125 sx titles? it seems those are abandoned as soon as someone can put another title in place of it.
rgmx-49 wrote:
RV doesn't have 450 title...do you think less of him because of that?
rmpilot wrote:
pourcel has won a lot of races outside and villopoto has 2 outdoor titles.
he has 3 outdoors, but they don't matter cause the not 450 titles.... that's what you've been saying that lites titles are of non importance.
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DV12 has 7 supercross wins and 3 motocross wins in the big boy class.
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'Racer X "Top Ten Imports"...WTF!'

Forget DV, Fonz, etc; as an Aussie, I can't believe Erin Normoyle didn't make the list.
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rmpilot wrote:
yes he won in the premier class. im not saying theres no worth to fonsecas championships but they were regional titles and it is not as...
yes he won in the premier class. im not saying theres no worth to fonsecas championships but they were regional titles and it is not as high on the list. vuillimen was beating some of the best riders ever.
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DV 2006: 6th in AMA Supercross, 10th in AMA Motocross. 2005: 4th (250/450F cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross) 2004: 4th (250cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc...
DV
2006: 6th in AMA Supercross, 10th in AMA Motocross.
2005: 4th (250/450F cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross)
2004: 4th (250cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross)
2003: 7th (250cc supercross), 6th (250/450F cc motocross)

Fonz
2005
6th AMA 250 Supercross Series
3rd AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2004
27th AMA 250 Supercross Series [missed most of season due to injury]
5th AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2003
3rd AMA 250 Supercross Series
8th AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2002
7th AMA 250 Supercross Series
4th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
2001
1st AMA 125 Western Region Supercross Series
8th AMA 125 East/West Supercross Shootout
3rd AMA 125 National Motocross Series
2000
5th AMA 125 Eastern Region Supercross Series
7th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
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1st AMA 125 Eastern Region Supercross Series
8th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
1999 AMA Rookie of the Year

how is DV better?
seems cooler!!!
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he's # 9 ya gal dang dummy.
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rgmx-49 wrote:
RV doesn't have 450 title...do you think less of him because of that?
rmpilot wrote:
pourcel has won a lot of races outside and villopoto has 2 outdoor titles.
rgmx-49 wrote:
he has 3 outdoors, but they don't matter cause the not 450 titles.... that's what you've been saying that lites titles are of non importance.
Give it up!! How many times did Fonseca pass RC for the win? None. Nope, DV didn't win two 125 SX championships. Maybe his series results aren't better than the Fonz's, but he was without a doubt faster and has won more races in the premiere class which is the ultimate benchmark for professional motocross and supercross! No disrespect to Fonseca of course as I will always be a fan.
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jeffro503 2/10/2011 11:49pm
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Bottom line here....a list of 10 riders was obviously to short. they left out some great racers , including Ernie.
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rmpilot wrote:
yes he won in the premier class. im not saying theres no worth to fonsecas championships but they were regional titles and it is not as...
yes he won in the premier class. im not saying theres no worth to fonsecas championships but they were regional titles and it is not as high on the list. vuillimen was beating some of the best riders ever.
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DV 2006: 6th in AMA Supercross, 10th in AMA Motocross. 2005: 4th (250/450F cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross) 2004: 4th (250cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc...
DV
2006: 6th in AMA Supercross, 10th in AMA Motocross.
2005: 4th (250/450F cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross)
2004: 4th (250cc supercross), 4th (250/450F cc motocross)
2003: 7th (250cc supercross), 6th (250/450F cc motocross)

Fonz
2005
6th AMA 250 Supercross Series
3rd AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2004
27th AMA 250 Supercross Series [missed most of season due to injury]
5th AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2003
3rd AMA 250 Supercross Series
8th AMA 250 National Motocross Series
2002
7th AMA 250 Supercross Series
4th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
2001
1st AMA 125 Western Region Supercross Series
8th AMA 125 East/West Supercross Shootout
3rd AMA 125 National Motocross Series
2000
5th AMA 125 Eastern Region Supercross Series
7th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
1999
1st AMA 125 Eastern Region Supercross Series
8th AMA 125 National Motocross Series
1999 AMA Rookie of the Year

how is DV better?
ak23 wrote:
seems cooler!!!
You missed out his best years thats how...

DV was 2nd in SX in 2000 4th MX
Had some issues in SX in 2001, but was top5? in MX again
second in 2002 SX and top five I think in MX again....

Also third in the 250 GPs in 1999
Second in 125 GPs in 1998.

from 98-03 DV was one of the very top riders in world.

His career was better than Ernies...but Fonseca was a great rider.
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I think everything is correct.
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FastEddy 2/11/2011 4:21am
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I wouldn't really consider Fonseca an import.
BUT I see where you guys are coming from.
He was here winning mini-classes in the States far before he turned pro(think he started racing here at age 12).
I guess you could say he came up as an American racer in a sense,racing LL's....
He legally turned pro here in the States I believe,not in *Costa Rica (due to an age restriction on the big bikes in Costa Rica-he still rode the pro class though because they modified the rule for him,or something like that. But still he won titles down there).When he was racing pro down there,I think he was still racing AM's up here.

I would assume maybe this is why RacerX left Ernie out of that one.
But they should have given him a nod as they did Wardy.
All the other guys listed were already pro,racing the GP's before they raced here as pro's.
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Crush 2/11/2011 5:11am
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The Fonz was great... But DV caught and beat MC, RC and CR in their primes... Fonz almost got lapped whilst standing on the podium to two of those guys...

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