More Bad News for JS7

michael.hillion 7/28/2014 3:16pm
7/28/2014 3:16pm
Sunhouse wrote:
Wouldn´t it depend on the contents of the IV whether or not it would be legal?
GuyB wrote:
There aren't supposed to be IVs during competition on race day. Post-race is okay.
wow..clarification,,,
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albythizzle 7/28/2014 3:32pm
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If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to themselves. If you are only going to police the small fry the sport dies. Everyone is acting like MX is done if James is done. I mean come on, its not like this dude holds the source code for the NSA. They are allowing this demise with not telling their fans anything, which once again its the fans support who pay his huge salary. If we ever want our sport to grow, this has to stop. They need to be professionals, not cry everyone hates them because forums have nothing better to go on other than speculation.
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bigborefan 7/28/2014 3:54pm
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Mr. Knobby wrote:
he's not as old as Reed. + this thread is shit and most of the posters here are garbage. This site is full of a-holes who...
he's not as old as Reed.

+ this thread is shit and most of the posters here are garbage. This site is full of a-holes who aren't fit to lick the mud off Stewies tires, so they hope against hope he's done something wrong and they can climb on a high horse and feel like somebody for 2 minutes on vital. Then it's back to their meaningless lives as nobodies.
The mean Canadian returns!

Has he done anything wrong? We'll have to wait and see.
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4stroke4DWIN 7/28/2014 4:02pm
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albythizzle wrote:
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to...
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to themselves. If you are only going to police the small fry the sport dies. Everyone is acting like MX is done if James is done. I mean come on, its not like this dude holds the source code for the NSA. They are allowing this demise with not telling their fans anything, which once again its the fans support who pay his huge salary. If we ever want our sport to grow, this has to stop. They need to be professionals, not cry everyone hates them because forums have nothing better to go on other than speculation.
Stellar second post , whats the agenda here?

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albythizzle 7/28/2014 4:06pm
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4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Stellar second post , whats the agenda here?
No agenda, I have been a long time follower of this forum. Just felt like if it is a ten pager and I took the time to read it all I should give my two cents too.
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I dipped out at page 3. Did anyone confirm if this nurse is actually with the Stewart's or just trying to cause trouble?
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GuyB 7/28/2014 5:00pm
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albythizzle wrote:
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to...
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to themselves. If you are only going to police the small fry the sport dies. Everyone is acting like MX is done if James is done. I mean come on, its not like this dude holds the source code for the NSA. They are allowing this demise with not telling their fans anything, which once again its the fans support who pay his huge salary. If we ever want our sport to grow, this has to stop. They need to be professionals, not cry everyone hates them because forums have nothing better to go on other than speculation.
So what percentage of his salary do you pay?
muGz.147 7/28/2014 5:07pm
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Well, Stewy is getting older and it's hard to stay near the top without some extra help?
Mr. Knobby wrote:
he's not as old as Reed. + this thread is shit and most of the posters here are garbage. This site is full of a-holes who...
he's not as old as Reed.

+ this thread is shit and most of the posters here are garbage. This site is full of a-holes who aren't fit to lick the mud off Stewies tires, so they hope against hope he's done something wrong and they can climb on a high horse and feel like somebody for 2 minutes on vital. Then it's back to their meaningless lives as nobodies.
This x2....

Pretty much sums up the internet in general in many cases.
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bigborefan wrote:
I think our "little sport" wants to go mainstream, why, so DC can make more money I guess, but that's a different debate. Drug testing was...
I think our "little sport" wants to go mainstream, why, so DC can make more money I guess, but that's a different debate.

Drug testing was brought in to make it a big boy, legitimate sport, and it backfired when JSE got popped. How is it a witch hunt? He's either guilty or he's not. We will just have to wait and see what the penalties are.

The dilemma is there is no easy way out. You let JSE slide and it shows the rules are a joke. You ban him and Feld loses money, at least that's the rumor.

JSE imploded on his own. I don't think anyone forced him into it.
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It was brought it after the teams voted unanimously for it.
Did this happen when Larry Brooks was on "family time"? JS7 Entertainment didn't get the memo?
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GuyB wrote:
So what percentage of his salary do you pay?
I doubt he pays as much as you.

Irrespective of that, no one here has more of a vested interest in keeping James in the game than you(unless there are some posters here that we are unaware of who they are).
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So what percentage of his salary do you pay?
Never said I did, his fans do. You're exactly right though, I'm sure he would make all that money with no fans, it's simple business. You don't keep an employee that brings you no income. So tell me again how does that team generate income with no fans? You're right, ticket sales, bike sales, his gear line etc. that's all for shits and giggles right? Not to generate income? Again who buys that stuff? Oh yeah his fans. So to answer your question 0, all I was trying to say is he should have the respect to give his fans a answer.
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neysbo 7/28/2014 5:12pm
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albythizzle wrote:
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to...
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to themselves. If you are only going to police the small fry the sport dies. Everyone is acting like MX is done if James is done. I mean come on, its not like this dude holds the source code for the NSA. They are allowing this demise with not telling their fans anything, which once again its the fans support who pay his huge salary. If we ever want our sport to grow, this has to stop. They need to be professionals, not cry everyone hates them because forums have nothing better to go on other than speculation.
I agree, if was innocent , there would have been some kind of statement from the Stewart camp. Now it looks like they are just taking their time to make up the best BS story they can come up with.
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albythizzle wrote:
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to...
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to themselves. If you are only going to police the small fry the sport dies. Everyone is acting like MX is done if James is done. I mean come on, its not like this dude holds the source code for the NSA. They are allowing this demise with not telling their fans anything, which once again its the fans support who pay his huge salary. If we ever want our sport to grow, this has to stop. They need to be professionals, not cry everyone hates them because forums have nothing better to go on other than speculation.
GuyB wrote:
So what percentage of his salary do you pay?
I feel the fans who buy race tickets, bikes and race stuff do pay their part of those guys salary.
Mr. Knobby 7/28/2014 5:20pm
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GuyB wrote:
Corny is using stuff like gna. I try and keep things reined in a bit, and there are times when it gets out of hand. But...
Corny is using stuff like gna.

I try and keep things reined in a bit, and there are times when it gets out of hand. But have you checked out social media lately? Comments on any newpaper site article? People seem to have far fewer boundaries on what they're willing to say...especially if they're online and anonymous. It's not isolated to here.
Everyone's doing it, so it's ok.

Plus, we get a lot more page views and visits and that rolls over to more advertising dollars.

In other words.....we love it!!
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gsxrcr28 7/28/2014 5:25pm
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albythizzle wrote:
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to...
If he is innocent why still no press release? DId he not fail a drug test before this mess? JAMES and his team did this to themselves. If you are only going to police the small fry the sport dies. Everyone is acting like MX is done if James is done. I mean come on, its not like this dude holds the source code for the NSA. They are allowing this demise with not telling their fans anything, which once again its the fans support who pay his huge salary. If we ever want our sport to grow, this has to stop. They need to be professionals, not cry everyone hates them because forums have nothing better to go on other than speculation.
A press release for what? The nurse?

He wasn't caught doing anything wrong, why issue a press release?
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GuyB 7/28/2014 5:26pm
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Mr. Knobby wrote:
Everyone's doing it, so it's ok. Plus, we get a lot more page views and visits and that rolls over to more advertising dollars. In other...
Everyone's doing it, so it's ok.

Plus, we get a lot more page views and visits and that rolls over to more advertising dollars.

In other words.....we love it!!
If that's what you got out of my message, you have an issue with reading comprehension.
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gsxrcr28 7/28/2014 5:30pm
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GuyB wrote:
So what percentage of his salary do you pay?
albythizzle wrote:
Never said I did, his fans do. You're exactly right though, I'm sure he would make all that money with no fans, it's simple business. You...
Never said I did, his fans do. You're exactly right though, I'm sure he would make all that money with no fans, it's simple business. You don't keep an employee that brings you no income. So tell me again how does that team generate income with no fans? You're right, ticket sales, bike sales, his gear line etc. that's all for shits and giggles right? Not to generate income? Again who buys that stuff? Oh yeah his fans. So to answer your question 0, all I was trying to say is he should have the respect to give his fans a answer.
I see this a lot. What he should do for his fans coming from his non fans. It seems like his fans are fine and a know he talks to them when he can.
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Will we have to wait ten years until Oprah pays for the interview?

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albythizzle 7/28/2014 5:37pm
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GuyB wrote:
So what percentage of his salary do you pay?
albythizzle wrote:
Never said I did, his fans do. You're exactly right though, I'm sure he would make all that money with no fans, it's simple business. You...
Never said I did, his fans do. You're exactly right though, I'm sure he would make all that money with no fans, it's simple business. You don't keep an employee that brings you no income. So tell me again how does that team generate income with no fans? You're right, ticket sales, bike sales, his gear line etc. that's all for shits and giggles right? Not to generate income? Again who buys that stuff? Oh yeah his fans. So to answer your question 0, all I was trying to say is he should have the respect to give his fans a answer.
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I see this a lot. What he should do for his fans coming from his non fans. It seems like his fans are fine and a...
I see this a lot. What he should do for his fans coming from his non fans. It seems like his fans are fine and a know he talks to them when he can.
Right, way to be a professional! Seems like no other riders/teams have any issues quieting the speculation. I am a fan of James on a motorcycle, off not so much. He post stuff on social media like it is some huge secret, it is asking for this exact situation to happen. I also see his "fans" making some pretty wild accusations when the finger is pointed at James, what you said can go both ways.
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MotoMo165 7/28/2014 5:38pm
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I would bet good money that a whole bunch of JS7 "fans" were hoping this PED testing would have caught "the other guy"... sorta backfired eh...
I would bet good money that a whole bunch of JS7 "fans" were hoping this PED testing would have caught "the other guy"... sorta backfired eh?

Bummer all the way around, imo.
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It would've caught the other guy, if only, oh nevermind!:whistle: :P On a serious note, this testing has turned into one big clusterfuck! I was hoping...
It would've caught the other guy, if only, oh nevermind!Whistling Tongue

On a serious note, this testing has turned into one big clusterfuck! I was hoping it would catch the hardcore PED users and if it was James, then so be it, but there are so many grey areas and dysfunctional protocol that I wish they would've never started! I wouldn't want RV or any other rider for that matter going through what James is going through right now. It's a bunch of BS.
zook11 wrote:
What's even more pathetic you you following me around every post I make. Get a life.
I've been a long time lurker and made an account a while back.. its true you do jump on anything to do with James. Not hard at all to see being a daily visitor at Vital.
Mr. Knobby 7/28/2014 5:39pm
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bigborefan wrote:
The mean Canadian returns!

Has he done anything wrong? We'll have to wait and see.
You sure as hell haven't been waiting, you've convicted him a million times over in your posts.
Your posts are dripping with your desire to see him crucified. Who's mean again?
Mr. Knobby 7/28/2014 5:49pm
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
A press release for what? The nurse?

He wasn't caught doing anything wrong, why issue a press release?
Because the herd over at Vital have gone off on a wild tangent that have some of the weaker minds comparing him to Lance Armstrong. Everyone knows that the world of motocross rotates around VitalMX and he should issue a press release because a keyboard jockey hopped up on redbull wants him to.
Mr. Knobby 7/28/2014 5:52pm
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Right, way to be a professional! Seems like no other riders/teams have any issues quieting the speculation. I am a fan of James on a motorcycle...
Right, way to be a professional! Seems like no other riders/teams have any issues quieting the speculation. I am a fan of James on a motorcycle, off not so much. He post stuff on social media like it is some huge secret, it is asking for this exact situation to happen. I also see his "fans" making some pretty wild accusations when the finger is pointed at James, what you said can go both ways.
What speculation do you see the other riders/teams quieting exactly?
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albythizzle wrote:
Never said I did, his fans do. You're exactly right though, I'm sure he would make all that money with no fans, it's simple business. You...
Never said I did, his fans do. You're exactly right though, I'm sure he would make all that money with no fans, it's simple business. You don't keep an employee that brings you no income. So tell me again how does that team generate income with no fans? You're right, ticket sales, bike sales, his gear line etc. that's all for shits and giggles right? Not to generate income? Again who buys that stuff? Oh yeah his fans. So to answer your question 0, all I was trying to say is he should have the respect to give his fans a answer.
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I see this a lot. What he should do for his fans coming from his non fans. It seems like his fans are fine and a...
I see this a lot. What he should do for his fans coming from his non fans. It seems like his fans are fine and a know he talks to them when he can.
albythizzle wrote:
Right, way to be a professional! Seems like no other riders/teams have any issues quieting the speculation. I am a fan of James on a motorcycle...
Right, way to be a professional! Seems like no other riders/teams have any issues quieting the speculation. I am a fan of James on a motorcycle, off not so much. He post stuff on social media like it is some huge secret, it is asking for this exact situation to happen. I also see his "fans" making some pretty wild accusations when the finger is pointed at James, what you said can go both ways.
While I'm sure his fans appreciate your concern, I think he would issue a press release if there was anything that would potentially affect his racing. He issued one for the lack of a TUE for the Adderall because that could potentially affect his racing.
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albythizzle 7/28/2014 6:04pm
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Mr. Knobby wrote:
What speculation do you see the other riders/teams quieting exactly?
Baggett and Webb posting their results.
Mr. Knobby 7/28/2014 6:13pm
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If that's what you got out of my message, you have an issue with reading comprehension.
Really?

Who cares what other sites, social media in general or anonymous posters are doing. Why not set an example and yank these massively speculative threads before they get carried away like this?

There are guys in this thread saying he's guilty and any story that comes from him or the team later is going to be BS and nothing is going to change their mind. That opinion they've constructed is based on nothing but this thread that has been allowed to spin out of control and possibly cause a lot of damage to people, teams, reputations..etc.

Threads like this should be muted until such time that official word comes out, to stop people from inserting words like "between motos" and taking it in a certain direction possibly hurting people in the process....possibly, even, all on purpose.
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Mr. Knobby wrote:
Really? Who cares what other sites, social media in general or anonymous posters are doing. Why not set an example and yank these massively speculative threads...
Really?

Who cares what other sites, social media in general or anonymous posters are doing. Why not set an example and yank these massively speculative threads before they get carried away like this?

There are guys in this thread saying he's guilty and any story that comes from him or the team later is going to be BS and nothing is going to change their mind. That opinion they've constructed is based on nothing but this thread that has been allowed to spin out of control and possibly cause a lot of damage to people, teams, reputations..etc.

Threads like this should be muted until such time that official word comes out, to stop people from inserting words like "between motos" and taking it in a certain direction possibly hurting people in the process....possibly, even, all on purpose.
What speculation are you referring to?

The speculation that he was taking bags in between motos?

When I wake up each morning and I see light shining through my window I believe it is fair to say that the sun is shining. Sure, I am just speculating but it is not too difficult to connect the dots.

But I guess we aren't supposed to talk about it.
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heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend who... #reospeedwagon

this thread belongs in the dumbgeon...nothing to see here...
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GuyB wrote:
If that's what you got out of my message, you have an issue with reading comprehension.
Mr. Knobby wrote:
Really? Who cares what other sites, social media in general or anonymous posters are doing. Why not set an example and yank these massively speculative threads...
Really?

Who cares what other sites, social media in general or anonymous posters are doing. Why not set an example and yank these massively speculative threads before they get carried away like this?

There are guys in this thread saying he's guilty and any story that comes from him or the team later is going to be BS and nothing is going to change their mind. That opinion they've constructed is based on nothing but this thread that has been allowed to spin out of control and possibly cause a lot of damage to people, teams, reputations..etc.

Threads like this should be muted until such time that official word comes out, to stop people from inserting words like "between motos" and taking it in a certain direction possibly hurting people in the process....possibly, even, all on purpose.
And miss out on your eloquent/quality contributions? That would be tragic.

Perhaps we can shut down all new papers/ magazines and any other form public speech that sometime speculates without facts. Or better yet how bout someone start whining about a lawsuit………

It's a nasty world out there so people need to have their big boy pants on these days.

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Mr. Knobby wrote:
Really? Who cares what other sites, social media in general or anonymous posters are doing. Why not set an example and yank these massively speculative threads...
Really?

Who cares what other sites, social media in general or anonymous posters are doing. Why not set an example and yank these massively speculative threads before they get carried away like this?

There are guys in this thread saying he's guilty and any story that comes from him or the team later is going to be BS and nothing is going to change their mind. That opinion they've constructed is based on nothing but this thread that has been allowed to spin out of control and possibly cause a lot of damage to people, teams, reputations..etc.

Threads like this should be muted until such time that official word comes out, to stop people from inserting words like "between motos" and taking it in a certain direction possibly hurting people in the process....possibly, even, all on purpose.
Mr Knobby you sure get spun up over JSE. You must have a man crush on James.

You really think Vital will hurt someones reputation long term? It's a fun site, but I don;t know if it has that much clout.

It's true, I am not a JSE fan, never have been. And it's not personal. I have said before I do not know James. Never meet him.He was however starting to win me over, but then the drama queen that he is showed up again.

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