Is it really necessary?

Riesenberg448
Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 7:30pm


Event Finish Summary
2008 AMA National Amateur Motocross Championship - 8/2/2008 - Hurricane Mills, TN
Class Number Brand Moto 1 Moto 2 Moto 3 Class Finish
85 (12-13) Stock #63 SUZ 30th 32nd DNS 42nd
85 (12-13) Modified #63 SUZ 32nd 19th 31st 29th

I don't know the kid or the family at all, and definitely not meant to be an attack on them at all. Just curious of everyone's thoughts. It has me shaking my head, but then I think, if I could provide my son that when he's old enough to ride, I wonder if I would?
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Tbteam 4/22/2010 8:42am
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I think the simple answer is no, it's not necessary.

It's been two years since the results that you posted. Any updates? With this kind of support, I would expect top results or I'd pack it in.

"Living through your kid" comes to mind.
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I'm jealous... but....I can't believe they have old gas cans and no graphics on all the bikes.... and who doesn't have enough sprockets, they are abusing this mechanic making him take old sprockets off other wheels.
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The poor kid doesn't even have anyone prepping his googles!!! Shocked

Man I hate penny pinching parents.
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It's pretty crazy walking through the pits at amateur nationals these days. They are more impressive than the pro pits were in the late 80's and early 90's. Completely unnecessary, but impressive.

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zookrider62! 4/22/2010 8:49am
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not necessary. Did he crash in every moto or something?
panic revver 4/22/2010 8:53am
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Not necessary but lets face it, if any of us could do it for our kids we would or if we were the kid we would be loving it.
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rc4187 4/22/2010 8:54am
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Is that the JSloan that posts here?
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panic revver wrote:
Not necessary but lets face it, if any of us could do it for our kids we would or if we were the kid we would...
Not necessary but lets face it, if any of us could do it for our kids we would or if we were the kid we would be loving it.
I disagree. I dont think there are too many people who if they had the means, would blow it. If I was a kid, I would be stressed knowing my parents spent tons of money for me to finish almost dead last
Riesenberg448 4/22/2010 9:00am
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Tbteam wrote:
I think the simple answer is no, it's not necessary. It's been two years since the results that you posted. Any updates? With this kind of...
I think the simple answer is no, it's not necessary.

It's been two years since the results that you posted. Any updates? With this kind of support, I would expect top results or I'd pack it in.

"Living through your kid" comes to mind.
I looked up last years LL results and they were all DNS, so I'm guessing he qualified but was injured? Obviously wasn't a money issue getting there. I figured 6 motos was a pretty good gauge. He's not slow by any means, and even to qualify for Loretta's in the 12-13 classes you have to rip, but with the set up I figured he had to have some support from Suzuki... but not with those results. Which simply means, deep pockets. Again, just using this as an example, not trying to call out 1 kid or family.

Jealous? I sure am! I'd love to be able to provide that for my son; however, I do think it'd be done in a bit of moderation.
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that dude looks like a real....asshole. i wonder if he's cool?
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Tony Alessi has competition!
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mx918 4/22/2010 9:04am
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Completely unnecessary. I'd feel way too spoiled if I was the kid.
panic revver 4/22/2010 9:05am
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What do you mean? It seems they have the means and are making it happen for their kid. Now if they have 6 mortgages on their house to support the kid then they are blowing it. If that isn't the case who are we to judge how they spend their money. Should they go buy a $120K Sand Limo and hang out at the dunes?

Maybe he isn't finishing last any more:
Joseph spent a day with National Motocross Champion, Jaissac,

http://www.free-press-release.com/news-jaissac-sloan-and-actor-joseph-james-spend-the-weekend-in-phoenix-practicing-filming-a-movie-and-having-fun-at-the-phoenix-fair-1256757202.html

His own webpage
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panic revver wrote:
What do you mean? It seems they have the means and are making it happen for their kid. Now if they have 6 mortgages on their...
What do you mean? It seems they have the means and are making it happen for their kid. Now if they have 6 mortgages on their house to support the kid then they are blowing it. If that isn't the case who are we to judge how they spend their money. Should they go buy a $120K Sand Limo and hang out at the dunes?

Maybe he isn't finishing last any more:
Joseph spent a day with National Motocross Champion, Jaissac,

http://www.free-press-release.com/news-jaissac-sloan-and-actor-joseph-james-spend-the-weekend-in-phoenix-practicing-filming-a-movie-and-having-fun-at-the-phoenix-fair-1256757202.html

His own webpage
A giant motor home, mutiple bikes, mechanic, trailer behind the motor home, and all that to me, is blowing money if youre not a top contender at LL. Im not questioning if they have the means or not, I have no idea, I just dont understand why someone would spend so much to get the results they have
DanDunes818 4/22/2010 9:09am
4/22/2010 9:09am Edited Date/Time 4/23/2010 8:48pm
Tbteam wrote:
I think the simple answer is no, it's not necessary. It's been two years since the results that you posted. Any updates? With this kind of...
I think the simple answer is no, it's not necessary.

It's been two years since the results that you posted. Any updates? With this kind of support, I would expect top results or I'd pack it in.

"Living through your kid" comes to mind.
I looked up his 2009 results. Looks like they qualified,signed up and paid but he was listed as a DNS every moto.



2009 LL Amateur National - 8/8/2009 - Hurricane Mills, TN

Class Number Brand Moto 1 Moto 2 Moto 3 Class Finish

26. 85 (12-13) Stock #63 SUZ DNS DNS DNS DNS

27. 85 (12-13) Modified #63 SUZ DNS DNS DNS DNS

He did pretty decent in one class at Oak hill. Kid seems to be getting fast but has DNF'ed a few. Looks like he may have got hurt..

85 (14-15) Mod #63 SUZ 5th 4th 4th
Supermini 1 (12-15) #63 SUZ 12th DNF 28th
Supermini 2 (13-16) #63 SUZ DNF DNF DNF

At the world mini last week he didn't do great but for sure decent results

85/150 Mod 14-16 #631 SUZ 5th DNS 20th
85/150 Open Thru 16 #631 SUZ 11th 6th 8th
85/150 Stk 14-16 #631 SUZ 5th 12th 10th
SuperMini Thru 16 #631 SUZ 14th 7th 9th
panic revver 4/22/2010 9:13am
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panic revver wrote:
What do you mean? It seems they have the means and are making it happen for their kid. Now if they have 6 mortgages on their...
What do you mean? It seems they have the means and are making it happen for their kid. Now if they have 6 mortgages on their house to support the kid then they are blowing it. If that isn't the case who are we to judge how they spend their money. Should they go buy a $120K Sand Limo and hang out at the dunes?

Maybe he isn't finishing last any more:
Joseph spent a day with National Motocross Champion, Jaissac,

http://www.free-press-release.com/news-jaissac-sloan-and-actor-joseph-james-spend-the-weekend-in-phoenix-practicing-filming-a-movie-and-having-fun-at-the-phoenix-fair-1256757202.html

His own webpage
zookrider62! wrote:
A giant motor home, mutiple bikes, mechanic, trailer behind the motor home, and all that to me, is blowing money if youre not a top contender...
A giant motor home, mutiple bikes, mechanic, trailer behind the motor home, and all that to me, is blowing money if youre not a top contender at LL. Im not questioning if they have the means or not, I have no idea, I just dont understand why someone would spend so much to get the results they have
Maybe they are in it for the FUN of the sport? You can go to your local track and see a set up like that, maybe sans the mechanic. If you consider it blowing money so be it. I feel the same way but people blow money on all kinds of stuff that I wouldn't drop a dime on and I try not to judge them.
Riesenberg448 4/22/2010 9:18am
4/22/2010 9:18am
Found some results from Oak Hill. Maybe that week at Loretta's was a fluke? Not doubting the talent or the speed, but the vibe of the website and videos just drives me insane. I wonder if LeBron James was like this playing basketball in middle school, or if this is only in MX?

85 14-16 Stk
Finish Number Brand Name City,State Moto 1 Moto 2
1 175 HON Cooper Webb Newport, NC 1 1
2 401 SUZ Jace Owen Charleston, IL 2 2
3 37 SUZ Dakota Alix Jay, VT 4 3
4 588 YAM Chris Alldredge Powell Butte, OR 5 5
5 63 SUZ Jaisaac Sloan Phoenix, AZ 9 4

85 14-16 Mod
Finish Number Brand Name City,State Moto 1 Moto 2
1 175 HON Cooper Webb Newport, NC 2 1
2 707 KAW Nick Gaines Ringgold, GA 3 3
3 63 SUZ Jaisaac Sloan Phoenix, AZ 6 2
DanDunes818 4/22/2010 9:25am
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My answer to the question is it necessary is no IMO. But at the same time if you have the money to blow why not go big. Sure if you're going without to go that big I think it's stupid but I don't think this family is going without. If I had a bunch of extra money I'd go big. I would love to be able to give my kid all the advantages I didn't have.

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huck 4/22/2010 9:45am
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Who cares? The dad has the means and is doing what he feels him and his son wants.... nothing at all wrong with it!!!!

At least he didn't say something like "if the kid doesn't win, we don't eat"...
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If they enjoy it and want to spend there money on it then let them. Not our place to say anything. Not uncommon to have a few bikes like that with a trailer and to get involved.
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If they enjoy it and want to spend there money on it then let them. Not our place to say anything. Not uncommon to have a...
If they enjoy it and want to spend there money on it then let them. Not our place to say anything. Not uncommon to have a few bikes like that with a trailer and to get involved.
I agree. Plus, by them spending tons of money on "the sport", it does nothing but help "the sport"....


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No its not necessary at all, but if you have the money why the hell not?
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i am more impressed that the dude who is his dad can afford all that. Must have a good job....
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Riesenberg448 wrote:
Found some results from Oak Hill. Maybe that week at Loretta's was a fluke? Not doubting the talent or the speed, but the vibe of the...
Found some results from Oak Hill. Maybe that week at Loretta's was a fluke? Not doubting the talent or the speed, but the vibe of the website and videos just drives me insane. I wonder if LeBron James was like this playing basketball in middle school, or if this is only in MX?

85 14-16 Stk
Finish Number Brand Name City,State Moto 1 Moto 2
1 175 HON Cooper Webb Newport, NC 1 1
2 401 SUZ Jace Owen Charleston, IL 2 2
3 37 SUZ Dakota Alix Jay, VT 4 3
4 588 YAM Chris Alldredge Powell Butte, OR 5 5
5 63 SUZ Jaisaac Sloan Phoenix, AZ 9 4

85 14-16 Mod
Finish Number Brand Name City,State Moto 1 Moto 2
1 175 HON Cooper Webb Newport, NC 2 1
2 707 KAW Nick Gaines Ringgold, GA 3 3
3 63 SUZ Jaisaac Sloan Phoenix, AZ 6 2
Those are good finishes. Even pulled a 2nd in one moto.
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I know a few guys like that, but I am not going to lie.....I would do the same thing if I had the means. I was hoping to win the lotto last night to order a rig like that.
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We have the SAME thing around here The kid spends the whole winter at MTF, home schooled, 9 bikes, huge hauler and he cant even Whoop Ass at the local track on Sunday. Where is he really going ?

I wonder where the Sloan's get the $$$$ If my kid was fast and had potential Hell Ya !!!
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WTF does "necessary" have to do with ANYthing?
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He needs to get on big bikes.
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526 wrote:
We have the SAME thing around here The kid spends the whole winter at MTF, home schooled, 9 bikes, huge hauler and he cant even Whoop...
We have the SAME thing around here The kid spends the whole winter at MTF, home schooled, 9 bikes, huge hauler and he cant even Whoop Ass at the local track on Sunday. Where is he really going ?

I wonder where the Sloan's get the $$$$ If my kid was fast and had potential Hell Ya !!!
This kid is obviously fast as he pulled a 2nd in a moto at the GNC.
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His Dad looks like he's 14 years old.

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