Glen Helen booters.....DC?

Fourth_Floor
Profile picture for user Fourth_Floor
Posts
973
Joined
7/13/2016
Location
Saint Marys, PA US
Fourth_Floor
Edited Date/Time 5/29/2018 1:25pm
Seen it posted on here and on Instagram the booters they put in at Glen Helen. Please tell us fans that shit isn't staying for the race next weekend. I am all for seeing a few big jumps on a track but that is not acceptable by any means for a 30 +2 race with 40 guys out there. Let's keep these guys healthy for the whole season so us fans can continue to see awesome racing. Are they trying to get guys seriously injured?
|
tp4
Profile picture for user tp4
Posts
638
Joined
2/2/2008
Location
KS US
tp4 5/20/2018 6:21am
5/20/2018 6:21am
I agree..keep them safe!
slipdog
Profile picture for user slipdog
Posts
10044
Joined
7/25/2009
Location
Nor Cal, CA US
slipdog 5/20/2018 6:44am
5/20/2018 6:44am
DC won't do anything about it. Glenn Helen track builders have been stupid for years and nobody does shit. Welcome to the new America!
yak651
Profile picture for user yak651
Posts
6746
Joined
8/26/2006
Location
Appleton, WI US
Fantasy
235th
yak651 5/20/2018 6:55am
5/20/2018 6:55am
Loved Barcia's comment, to the effect if the track builder goes out and sends it first were all good with it. If they won't do it, then yeah something is wrong with it...

The Shop

See All »
500guy
Profile picture for user 500guy
Posts
12478
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
AZ US
500guy 5/20/2018 7:41am
5/20/2018 7:41am
Glen Helen has always been a meat grinder.
MXerDW
Profile picture for user MXerDW
Posts
5620
Joined
8/2/2006
Location
San Diego, CA US
MXerDW 5/20/2018 8:06am
5/20/2018 8:06am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2018 8:11am
Looks like they took out the huge triple step up and the big drop in jump in the back section for this year.


ML512
Profile picture for user ML512
Posts
15482
Joined
12/28/2008
Location
Wildomar, CA US
Fantasy
63rd
ML512 5/20/2018 8:31am
5/20/2018 8:31am
MXerDW wrote:
Looks like they took out the huge triple step up and the big drop in jump in the back section for this year. [img]http://www.promotocross.com/sites/default/files/2018_Glen_Helen_Fan_Map_large.jpg[/img]
Looks like they took out the huge triple step up and the big drop in jump in the back section for this year.


No, it's still there, triple step up into a big double.
loftyair
Profile picture for user loftyair
Posts
2771
Joined
7/3/2009
Location
riverside, CA US
loftyair 5/20/2018 8:45am
5/20/2018 8:45am
The finish line is this big table to single. Its not too far distance wise, but its tall and steep.
Squirrelings 5/20/2018 9:00am
5/20/2018 9:00am
When will these stupid jumps stop? When someone dies? Jumps that large do not belong on a track where guys race 30 +2 twice. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
GuyB
Profile picture for user GuyB
Posts
35703
Joined
7/10/2006
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
Fantasy
1140th
GuyB 5/20/2018 9:02am
5/20/2018 9:02am
slipdog wrote:
DC won't do anything about it. Glenn Helen track builders have been stupid for years and nobody does shit. Welcome to the new America!
This has already been a topic of discussion...even among the top riders. I think you have too little faith.
coastlinecascot 5/20/2018 9:04am
5/20/2018 9:04am
I'm glad they took out the fly 150 jump this weekend. The rollers were great. Yes take out those massive jumps
colintrax
Profile picture for user colintrax
Posts
4704
Joined
8/25/2015
Location
Taylorsville, GA US
Fantasy
2375th
colintrax 5/20/2018 9:13am
5/20/2018 9:13am
GuyB wrote:
This has already been a topic of discussion...even among the top riders. I think you have too little faith.
Do you know something is gonna change? I think we have reason to have little faith.
slipdog
Profile picture for user slipdog
Posts
10044
Joined
7/25/2009
Location
Nor Cal, CA US
slipdog 5/20/2018 9:14am
5/20/2018 9:14am
slipdog wrote:
DC won't do anything about it. Glenn Helen track builders have been stupid for years and nobody does shit. Welcome to the new America!
GuyB wrote:
This has already been a topic of discussion...even among the top riders. I think you have too little faith.
I can admit to my lack of faith and be happy to eat my words "if" DC puts Jody and his track crew in check.
GuyB
Profile picture for user GuyB
Posts
35703
Joined
7/10/2006
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
Fantasy
1140th
GuyB 5/20/2018 9:15am
5/20/2018 9:15am
I know it's going to get a serious look early in the week.
GuyB
Profile picture for user GuyB
Posts
35703
Joined
7/10/2006
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
Fantasy
1140th
GuyB 5/20/2018 9:16am
5/20/2018 9:16am
Check out the interviews with Barcia and Zach on the homepage.
Speeddemon73
Profile picture for user Speeddemon73
Posts
168
Joined
5/7/2013
Location
Grand Rapids, MI US
Speeddemon73 5/20/2018 9:17am
5/20/2018 9:17am
If there is ever a time to form a rider's union its now. If the rider's and teams don't do anything to prevent Glen Helen from making jumps this large, other tracks will do it too. Just wait till we get to Iron Man where that track has massive hits. I remember a time when Larocco's Leap was the largest jump on the circuit. Track builders and promoters these days are more concerned with having high flying tracks than tracks that actually promote good racing. I will say I am glad Hangtown took out the dumb Fly 150 jump and replaced it with the uphill whoop section. Lots of passing and racing in both classes made for good racing to watch. Once track I loved to see rider's race on was Broome Tioga back in the day. We need more natural terrain tracks like the GP's and less outdoor SX tracks. Loved to hear Barcia voicing his opinion on the Glen Helen track.
plowboy
Profile picture for user plowboy
Posts
11827
Joined
1/3/2010
Location
Norwich, KS US
plowboy 5/20/2018 9:25am
5/20/2018 9:25am
If enough of the "high flyers" voice concern....let's hope they are heard. DC is reasonable fellow. Pretty sure he can tell the difference between WOW and OHHH F@#K!
BAMX
Profile picture for user BAMX
Posts
2844
Joined
1/22/2012
Location
Fallbrook, CA US
BAMX 5/20/2018 9:27am
5/20/2018 9:27am
Faster bikes = Bigger jumps

Pit Row

See All »
Bruce372
Profile picture for user Bruce372
Posts
6341
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
Bruce372 5/20/2018 9:36am
5/20/2018 9:36am
I went to Glen Helen last year and the pretentiousness of the track is rediculous and a 3rd of the track is routed through the boonies where you can't see anything. The track is dug so deep, it doesn't matter where you sit, visibility is poor.

Counter to yesterday, it's the best layout and view of any motor race I've ever been to
Squirrelings 5/20/2018 9:40am
5/20/2018 9:40am
I think the main problem here is Jody. Guy thinks he's doing a service to the sport trying to kill somebody. Time's up dinosaur.
Fourth_Floor
Profile picture for user Fourth_Floor
Posts
973
Joined
7/13/2016
Location
Saint Marys, PA US
Fourth_Floor 5/20/2018 9:45am
5/20/2018 9:45am
GuyB wrote:
I know it's going to get a serious look early in the week.
I seen DC replied to a similar comment on IG stating he has been concentrating on Hangtown all week and is going to start working with Glen Helen tomorrow so hopefully some changes are made. You can have a big spectator jump and still make it safe so the consequence of a bobble due to lappers, track deterioration, mechanical, etc doesn't result in a broken back. Where is the common sense here? Yesterdays racing was spectacular. All the top guys dicing it out, just exciting racing and everyone went home. Do we really want to see tops guys dropping out due to injury throughout the season because of a few very poorly thought out obstacles? Does risk vs reward not come into play here? What is the reward of this jump? The spectators will be wowed by it and forget all about it come Monday. The risk? Some top guys getting taken out and the rest of the season becomes boring AF and views and attendance plummets.
Mr. Info
Profile picture for user Mr. Info
Posts
1672
Joined
5/3/2010
Location
Perris, CA US
Mr. Info 5/20/2018 9:45am
5/20/2018 9:45am
I know for a fact that Davey has asked for changes before and it was done. Best know all the facts before making false statements. I think all the tracks need slowing down and made more technical and racer friendly and not any SX type jumps but I am old fashioned and this is just my opinion.
Fourth_Floor
Profile picture for user Fourth_Floor
Posts
973
Joined
7/13/2016
Location
Saint Marys, PA US
Fourth_Floor 5/20/2018 9:47am
5/20/2018 9:47am
BAMX wrote:
Faster bikes = Bigger jumps
Fine and dandy but fill the shit in. No reason in the world to be casing a wall. Is there a dirt shortage?
tp4
Profile picture for user tp4
Posts
638
Joined
2/2/2008
Location
KS US
tp4 5/20/2018 10:41am
5/20/2018 10:41am
Squirrelings wrote:
I think the main problem here is Jody. Guy thinks he's doing a service to the sport trying to kill somebody. Time's up dinosaur.
this..xx2..dude is slow as f---..ever see him ride...times up with him!
APLMAN99
Profile picture for user APLMAN99
Posts
10115
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Dallas, TX US
APLMAN99 5/20/2018 10:51am
5/20/2018 10:51am
Anyone got some visuals of this killing field everyone's talking about, or is this just the beginning of the annual 2 week ritual lovingly known as the "Jihad on Jody"?
DC
Profile picture for user DC
Posts
3890
Joined
5/1/2009
Location
Morgantown, WV US
DC 5/20/2018 10:52am
5/20/2018 10:52am
I am headed to Glen Helen now. Like Mr. Info said, Jody and I will work together on making appropriate changes, it always starts at one point and ends up at another. I hear the riders and team managers loud and clear. We will get to work at Glen Helen this afternoon.

For what it's worth, I thought we had a great race yesterday at Hangtown, no transports, no massive 150-footer and some really good racing on a rough, challenging racetrack. Congratulations to the Dirt Diggers North M/C on making their 50th Hangtown Classic one of their very best.

We have 44 motos to go in this championship and we want to get everyone to the finish line safely.

DC
Racer X
plowboy
Profile picture for user plowboy
Posts
11827
Joined
1/3/2010
Location
Norwich, KS US
plowboy 5/20/2018 10:54am
5/20/2018 10:54am
DC wrote:
I am headed to Glen Helen now. Like Mr. Info said, Jody and I will work together on making appropriate changes, it always starts at one...
I am headed to Glen Helen now. Like Mr. Info said, Jody and I will work together on making appropriate changes, it always starts at one point and ends up at another. I hear the riders and team managers loud and clear. We will get to work at Glen Helen this afternoon.

For what it's worth, I thought we had a great race yesterday at Hangtown, no transports, no massive 150-footer and some really good racing on a rough, challenging racetrack. Congratulations to the Dirt Diggers North M/C on making their 50th Hangtown Classic one of their very best.

We have 44 motos to go in this championship and we want to get everyone to the finish line safely.

DC
Racer X
Told you guysCoolSmile
Nesc39
Profile picture for user Nesc39
Posts
123
Joined
8/26/2014
Location
boston, MA US
Nesc39 5/20/2018 10:56am
5/20/2018 10:56am
Can someone point out all the injuries from big jumps at the nationals? I can’t think of any. I agree they don’t need to be there but they are just a result of the real problem.
The 70hp bikes are the problem. Cut it in half and no one is jumping a fly150. They can build jumps as big as they want, if you don’t have the power, you aren’t jumping it.
Look at the straightaway speeds. Herlings doing about 60 through bumps. That’s the problem
plowboy
Profile picture for user plowboy
Posts
11827
Joined
1/3/2010
Location
Norwich, KS US
plowboy 5/20/2018 11:09am
5/20/2018 11:09am
Nesc39 wrote:
Can someone point out all the injuries from big jumps at the nationals? I can’t think of any. I agree they don’t need to be there...
Can someone point out all the injuries from big jumps at the nationals? I can’t think of any. I agree they don’t need to be there but they are just a result of the real problem.
The 70hp bikes are the problem. Cut it in half and no one is jumping a fly150. They can build jumps as big as they want, if you don’t have the power, you aren’t jumping it.
Look at the straightaway speeds. Herlings doing about 60 through bumps. That’s the problem
Lol....this has been discussed in about a gazillion threads. I get your point about the power output of modern bikes but suggesting they reduce the hp isn't gonna ever happen. Like asking the military to go back to bow and arrow cause those darn guns are just too deadly. The logical thing is to make the tracks more technical (slower). Hard to use 60+ hp on a snotty, rough, off camber.

Post a reply to: Glen Helen booters.....DC?