Davey Coombs and MX

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I like what I hear from the guy, especially how he's trying to help MX, our grass-roots sport, and the riders. His thoughts on the importance of public exposure, rider needs, and all around business is great. It's good to have an MX fan in charge. I can't wait to see how '09 starts to shape up.
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I can't wait for DORNA 2 also....

Dumbgeon....

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JustMX 7/22/2008 4:32am
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I agree.........

quieting the bikes down is a good first step.

I like the Saturday pro schedule they are trying at Steel city and hope more tracks will go with it.
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jtomasik 7/22/2008 5:08am
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Coombs has some good ideas. He's trying to get MX live broadcasts. He says if he can't swing that, then he might use live.motocross.com, as a back-up. Seems like a big priority with him. To help make moto more TV friendly, he says the format might have to be changed (like going to one moto...which sucks...but, it is what it is). He's also talking about keeping riders in MX (in light of the SX-only contracts appearing).

I'm glad to see an MX "fan" driving this effort, instead of only big business or big mouths with little experience and love for the sport.


More power to him.
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vet954 7/22/2008 5:11am
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Did I hear that they are going back to actual qualifying motos next year? That would be a major improvement.

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Teefus just took his new tank top off... oh wait a minute! I didn't recognize you Stevie!
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I really like the idea of a full track yellow flag for the first lap of practice. I'm going to try and get that started at our track.

Racetime - I have no understanding of your problem with the Coombs family, but feel that this forum is no place for you to spew your hate and innuendos.
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Starter Bob wrote:
I really like the idea of a full track yellow flag for the first lap of practice. I'm going to try and get that started at...
I really like the idea of a full track yellow flag for the first lap of practice. I'm going to try and get that started at our track.

Racetime - I have no understanding of your problem with the Coombs family, but feel that this forum is no place for you to spew your hate and innuendos.
I don't agree with TFS, but many people use this forum to "spew hate and innuendos" about everything from JLaw to BobbyM. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to do it.
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txmxer 7/22/2008 6:38am
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I got no problem with TFS input...he has been there and seen a lot. He's a smart guy.

But, he does have his own forum/site to play games on. But, that's just MyOp...it's Gibby's house, he makes the rules.
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jtomasik 7/22/2008 6:48am
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Aside from the soap opera drama that goes on around here, does anyone have input/response to Coombs' thoughts/concepts? I'll be the first to admit I'm no industry pro. I just ride those damn bikes.
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G-man 7/22/2008 6:51am
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Just read the article in Cycle News and Coombs seems very excited and now will focus all of his attention to the Nationals. Sort of where his Dad left off and now Davey will carry the torch.

His heart is in it and that is what is important.

I wish him and his crew the best of luck!
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Starter Bob wrote:
I really like the idea of a full track yellow flag for the first lap of practice. I'm going to try and get that started at...
I really like the idea of a full track yellow flag for the first lap of practice. I'm going to try and get that started at our track.

Racetime - I have no understanding of your problem with the Coombs family, but feel that this forum is no place for you to spew your hate and innuendos.
ProMed wrote:
I don't agree with TFS, but many people use this forum to "spew hate and innuendos" about everything from JLaw to BobbyM. Just because you don't...
I don't agree with TFS, but many people use this forum to "spew hate and innuendos" about everything from JLaw to BobbyM. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to do it.
No argument about him being allowed to say what he wants. I don't even disagree with all that he says.

I just expressed my humble opinion that he seems to have a vendetta going. I have no idea why. He hasn't expressed his reasons in a manner that I've been able to figure out. That said, I will admit that I'm not always the sharpest tool in the box. Mabe I've missed his focus/meaning.
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Things will only get better for the Nationals now that DC is in charge.
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jtomasik 7/22/2008 6:58am
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G-man, that article is what encouraged me to drop this post thread. He outlined a bunch of what I thought were good ideas. And, even though he doesn't have the contract yet, he's already working on it. I'm excited to see how far he can go with this.
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G-man, that article is what encouraged me to drop this post thread. He outlined a bunch of what I thought were good ideas. And, even though...
G-man, that article is what encouraged me to drop this post thread. He outlined a bunch of what I thought were good ideas. And, even though he doesn't have the contract yet, he's already working on it. I'm excited to see how far he can go with this.
?? I thought it was already a done deal and contracts were signed??
Oh well he would not have announced something this big if it was not almost a done deal.

All I can say about it is that I have no idea yet we he plans to do with it but I am looking forward to 09 already and am sure he will do good things. He and his family are fans of the sport and have enough knowledge and experience between them to do some really good things.
I am sure glad they got the deal.
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I will be a fan of whomever brings a Nat. to the SE.
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I didn't read the article in Cyclenews, but I think they need to work on having a "VENDORS ROW." Mototees is a monopoly and something needs to be done so other people can sell stuff.
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jtomasik wrote:
Coombs has some good ideas. He's trying to get MX live broadcasts. He says if he can't swing that, then he might use live.motocross.com, as a...
Coombs has some good ideas. He's trying to get MX live broadcasts. He says if he can't swing that, then he might use live.motocross.com, as a back-up. Seems like a big priority with him. To help make moto more TV friendly, he says the format might have to be changed (like going to one moto...which sucks...but, it is what it is). He's also talking about keeping riders in MX (in light of the SX-only contracts appearing).

I'm glad to see an MX "fan" driving this effort, instead of only big business or big mouths with little experience and love for the sport.


More power to him.
if it goes to a one moto format I will be done as a fan. I think they will lose a lot of fans trying to gain fans.
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jtomasik 7/22/2008 7:42am
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I misspoke. Yeah, Coombs has the contract already. I should've said that the contract doesn't start until next season, but he's getting things prepared already.

I understand the one-moto pains we all feel. I hate it too. But, Coombs brings up some good points. MX is having some serious problems now, and getting live TV might be what it needs. Making live TV want to put it on might take a one-moto format. If they have to do something like that, hopefully they only do it to the pros and it doesn't affect amateur racing.

Coombs did talk about bringing MX to the southeast. He mentioned that PA has two nats, so one of those might have to go.

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docweedon 7/22/2008 7:48am
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The Cyclenews article is a good read. Coombs has a lot of good ideas and wants MX to grow. Having live Tv, or streaming over the internet will be a huge step IMO to bring back the prestige involved with MX. Also, vendors row like someone said would be welcomed. If teams could sell their own merchandise, it would appeal to teams a lot more, as the sales of team merchandise could subsidies an outdoor program.
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Huckster 7/22/2008 7:50am
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jtomasik wrote:
I misspoke. Yeah, Coombs has the contract already. I should've said that the contract doesn't start until next season, but he's getting things prepared already. I...
I misspoke. Yeah, Coombs has the contract already. I should've said that the contract doesn't start until next season, but he's getting things prepared already.

I understand the one-moto pains we all feel. I hate it too. But, Coombs brings up some good points. MX is having some serious problems now, and getting live TV might be what it needs. Making live TV want to put it on might take a one-moto format. If they have to do something like that, hopefully they only do it to the pros and it doesn't affect amateur racing.

Coombs did talk about bringing MX to the southeast. He mentioned that PA has two nats, so one of those might have to go.
Not to steer off topic, but your point about one moto for pros got me thinking. A friend of mine raced the AM day at Budds and they did 1 moto on the main track,but they did 6 laps and it was at a reduced rate. I actually think that is a great idea. The two biggest draw backs for me when it comes to deciding whether to race or not on any give sunday is the Time and Cost. Back here a Sunday race is a 12+hr experience to ride less than 20 laps and that is if you're racing 2 classes including practice. If a promoter could reduce the length of the day and cut the cost a bit, but still provide similar track time, I would race more. just my $.02 on that issue.
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SteveS 7/22/2008 7:52am
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I believe I have seen DC write that a one moto format is NOT one of the things being considered.
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jtomasik 7/22/2008 7:52am
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I haven't seen Coombs ask for help with this, but it'd be nice to know how the average fan can assist with the effort, aside from buying product and tickets. Maybe Coombs (or someone else) has some ideas there...things that don't require too much investment, but really market the whole MX thing.

Steve, in that article, if I read it correctly, Coombs said it's a possibility, but it isn't something he wants to do. It sounded to me like the priority is live TV exposure, and if a one-moto format was the only way to do it, he'd consider it.

I really liked how he talked about trying to keep the top dollar pros away from the SX-only contracts.
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CRF122 7/22/2008 7:56am
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SATURDAYS! Live TV (better use of HD), a few night races and the sponsors everyone keeps talking about will come. Getting rid of a few of the less desireable races wouldn't hurt in the big picture. Either shorten the series by a couple weeks, or add a few locations that are more fan/racer friendly. Riders are always complaining about this, listen to them. Handle it, thanks Davey!
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CRF122 wrote:
SATURDAYS! Live TV (better use of HD), a few night races and the sponsors everyone keeps talking about will come. Getting rid of a few of...
SATURDAYS! Live TV (better use of HD), a few night races and the sponsors everyone keeps talking about will come. Getting rid of a few of the less desireable races wouldn't hurt in the big picture. Either shorten the series by a couple weeks, or add a few locations that are more fan/racer friendly. Riders are always complaining about this, listen to them. Handle it, thanks Davey!
maybe...sounds like they need to totally re-invent MX?

I just can't get behind the night race thing. TV works better in the light of day and with money being an issue night races are a problem. Thundervalley showed just how difficult it will be to light a full blown MX track at night IMO.
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CRF122 7/22/2008 8:18am
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They have to get a TV package, that is critical. The HD can look great at night if done right, the lighting is key. Maybe just try 2 races next year, baby steps. Even for the Saturday racing, just schedule enough of them to provide feedback. At least give them some info to compare ie.. attendance, ratings, fans/riders opinions etc.
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Trinitite 7/22/2008 8:20am
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I like the idea of Saturday races. I think that's a big step in the right direction.
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motogrady 7/22/2008 8:20am
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1 moto ain't moto. Dorna tried it and it flunked.

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jtomasik 7/22/2008 8:27am
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I'll go with the no night racing, however nice it is to have things cooler. One moto format...ugh. I hope it doesn't come to that. Maybe if they just cut down the delay between the first and second motos it'd be adequate? Saturdays sounds smart.
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I hope they never go to one moto for amateurs. It's just part of racing and something unique to have that two moto challenge. I also think it is really silly to do it for pros. It would be like taking baseball to six innings for TV.
How simple do things have to be for a TV audience? They seem to be able to handle the weird rules of football, hockey, soccer etc. no problem.
Talk about boring-- one moto provides one start and one victory. And if a rider suffers a mechanical, he is really screwed in a one moto format.
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I raced with Davey and Timmy Coombs when I was racing Mini's and the schoolboy class.Their Family is all about racing.DC is Motocross through and through.He is great for our sport IMHO. Other bitter people out there?Not so much.Not that everyone who has different ideas from DC is wrong,but some people are just sore Losers.

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