Completely new joker lane idea

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10/18/2017 7:16 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/18/2017 8:10 AM

Ok, I know the joker lane issue has been discussed a bunch this week but here is a new take.

Ive heard a story about Ron Lechien racing a euro sx where they had a doll hanging above the finish line and if you were able to jump and touch it you won a watch or a car or cash or something.

What if you had an alternative lane with a table top that was like the x games high jump kicker with a monster claw hanging high above it maybe even swinging left to right. If you jump and smack the claw it would trigger some strobe lights. If you hit it then you can take the faster joker lane. If you miss it then you lost time going for it. Overall it would be faster if you succeed. The rider can try for the joker lane as many times as they want but there is always a risk to it.

Edit: To make sense it should be an actual joker card swinging not a monster claw.

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10/18/2017 7:26 AM

I see it like this.... There's a reason they changed the joker lane to be faster this year. Its either cause the original idea sucked or because RC (incorrectly) thought the faster joker lane would make things more interesting. The new joker lane basically equated to most taking it on the first lap which made little to no difference in the end outcome.

I think the new thing they should try is not having a joker lane and either doing a split section where the faster section is harder to get to or just making an extra section of the track.

I think a lot of people would agree in saying that a ton of space was wasted this year at MEC due to the split start and the joker. Make that track space so there's more track to race. That's what I want to see.

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10/18/2017 7:30 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/18/2017 7:31 AM

I think there should be sharks. Like a tank full of sharks that they have to jump over. And the sharks could all have green lasers on their heads, so when they're swimming around the tank it would be like a mini laser show. Plus, it would add to the element of danger/entertainment since the riders could be blinded by the lasers. That would be awesome.

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10/18/2017 7:33 AM

They should put the mechanic's section by the joker lane. Each mechanic gets one attempt (per moto) to tackle a rider as he comes through the joker lane. (Make it more of a team sport.) Optionally, position a huge clown at the entrance and the rider must time the entry through an opening/closing mouth. On exit, a huge spinning windmill that you have to jump through. If your timing is off, the blades push you into the oncoming lane of traffic. That would really tie it all together.

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10/18/2017 7:35 AM

DoctorJD wrote:

I think there should be sharks. Like a tank full of sharks that they have to jump over. And the sharks could all have green lasers on their heads, so when they're swimming around the tank it would be like a mini laser show. Plus, it would add to the element of danger/entertainment since the riders could be blinded by the lasers. That would be awesome.

LOL. You were minutes ahead of me. I like your idea better. But, we could still include the clown.

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10/18/2017 7:37 AM

DoctorJD wrote:

I think there should be sharks. Like a tank full of sharks that they have to jump over. And the sharks could all have green lasers on their heads, so when they're swimming around the tank it would be like a mini laser show. Plus, it would add to the element of danger/entertainment since the riders could be blinded by the lasers. That would be awesome.

TheNewOriginal wrote:

LOL. You were minutes ahead of me. I like your idea better. But, we could still include the clown.

Clown face, with mechanics riding the sharks while trying to point lazers into the RV's eyes... I mean the riders eyes.

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10/18/2017 7:40 AM

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10/18/2017 7:42 AM

Yeah i know its a gimmick but the whole mec race is a gimmick at least make it interesting. As it stands therebare no real stakes to anything theyve tried.
If you want a slow joker make it a series of rock or split wood switchbacks where a tipover is highly likely. This can take hardly any track to build.

A shortcut lane can take even less track, it can just be an earlier 180 turn in a lane.

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10/18/2017 7:43 AM

DoctorJD wrote:

I think there should be sharks. Like a tank full of sharks that they have to jump over. And the sharks could all have green lasers on their heads, so when they're swimming around the tank it would be like a mini laser show. Plus, it would add to the element of danger/entertainment since the riders could be blinded by the lasers. That would be awesome.

This is a great idea!

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10/18/2017 7:47 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/18/2017 7:48 AM

"If you want a slow joker make it a series of rock or split wood switchbacks where a tipover is highly likely. "
Almost. Make them do it every lap, no alternate lane.

It is the F**k with you lane.

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10/18/2017 7:50 AM

DoctorJD wrote:

I think there should be sharks. Like a tank full of sharks that they have to jump over. And the sharks could all have green lasers on their heads, so when they're swimming around the tank it would be like a mini laser show. Plus, it would add to the element of danger/entertainment since the riders could be blinded by the lasers. That would be awesome.

I like this idea. Totally in keeping with the spirit of the event. I like the clown too.

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10/18/2017 7:51 AM

Just make the whole thing sand

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10/18/2017 7:52 AM

Just get rid of the entire event!

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10/18/2017 7:55 AM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Just get rid of the entire event!

I don't think we're far from that.

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10/18/2017 8:03 AM

Have a numbers in a hat drawing. You pick the number 3, you have to take the joker lane on lap 3. 10 laps? 2 of each number 2-10 in the hat and 4 of number 1 (22 riders). Or a variation, maybe even based on qualifying. Certainly more to talk about before and between races and possibility of more mistakes (mechanics, riders, and announcers)!

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10/18/2017 8:07 AM

Its not Early if ya never stopped!!!!!

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10/18/2017 8:14 AM

Guys will always find the fastest way around a track, so everyone will take that line so split sections dont really work unless they take exactly the same amount of time.

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10/18/2017 8:19 AM

I think the year they had the joker where it was the massive sand whoops was the best, because not only was it slower, but it wasn't a mathematical certainty... the sand was so deep and the whoops so big/round that they really could make a mistake and had to be careful. Taking it early meant it was cleaner, late in the race and it was whooped out.

It also has worked down here where it is literally a short passing lane, just miss a big jump and drive on by, because it keeps the racing tight. The usual MEC ones are like 5 seconds – well done, you just spaced the field with no guarantee they'll be back on each other straight away.

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10/18/2017 8:23 AM

Mid race air filter change. Ktm husky for the win

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10/18/2017 8:39 AM

How's about you can't use the joker lane if your in the top 5 and its available every lap for riders outside the top 5. This would create all kinds of chaos. kinda hurts my head thinking about it and how it would work.

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10/18/2017 8:52 AM

How about they skip the whip contest and use that time to go to (4) 10 lap mains and each main you have to ride a different bike; 125cc, 250f, 250, 450f. Riders can choose which bike they want for each main, but they have to ride all 4.

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10/18/2017 9:00 AM

SEE ARE125 wrote:

How about they skip the whip contest and use that time to go to (4) 10 lap mains and each main you have to ride a different bike; 125cc, 250f, 250, 450f. Riders can choose which bike they want for each main, but they have to ride all 4.

Wouldn't work since Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki don't make 2 strokes.

How about since the majority of teams have 2 riders have 1 guy do 5 laps then make a pit stop slap his teammates hand wrestling style to tag him in for the remaining 5 laps. Those that don't have teammates find someone that rides the same brand of bike as you and call it a day. Both teammates have to take the joker lane.

LOL. Stupid sideshow race.

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10/18/2017 9:21 AM

SEE ARE125 wrote:

How about they skip the whip contest and use that time to go to (4) 10 lap mains and each main you have to ride a different bike; 125cc, 250f, 250, 450f. Riders can choose which bike they want for each main, but they have to ride all 4.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Wouldn't work since Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki don't make 2 strokes.

How about since the majority of teams have 2 riders have 1 guy do 5 laps then make a pit stop slap his teammates hand wrestling style to tag him in for the remaining 5 laps. Those that don't have teammates find someone that rides the same brand of bike as you and call it a day. Both teammates have to take the joker lane.

LOL. Stupid sideshow race.

I strangely actually like this idea lol

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10/18/2017 9:22 AM

Make the jokerlane a mud pit. Everyone will have the fear of getting stuck

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10/18/2017 9:36 AM

Allow the riders to cut the track, to make up positions. Oh yeah, that happened this year!

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10/18/2017 10:05 AM

SEE ARE125 wrote:

How about they skip the whip contest and use that time to go to (4) 10 lap mains and each main you have to ride a different bike; 125cc, 250f, 250, 450f. Riders can choose which bike they want for each main, but they have to ride all 4.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Wouldn't work since Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki don't make 2 strokes.

How about since the majority of teams have 2 riders have 1 guy do 5 laps then make a pit stop slap his teammates hand wrestling style to tag him in for the remaining 5 laps. Those that don't have teammates find someone that rides the same brand of bike as you and call it a day. Both teammates have to take the joker lane.

LOL. Stupid sideshow race.

mx617 wrote:

I strangely actually like this idea lol

Lol. It's a little bit out there but who knows it could make things entertaining. Try a new format every year and something will eventually work out.

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10/18/2017 10:19 AM

Some really interesting ideas discussed here.
I think we should keep it simple and have a medieval style pit filled with leather back swamp dogs *known as crocodiles to you Yankees* swarming by the dozens starved for days with Ricky Carmichael standing at the edge surrounded by billy goats bloated on Monster Energy drinks while he swings a flaming battle axe fiercely at the riders - Following the swamp pit we should have a Ryno section, where we spread Ryno Power protein powder knee deep with shaker balls hidden throughout. I think the protein powder ball pit will make for some great passing and a thrilling race.

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10/18/2017 10:21 AM

They did a great job with the Joker Lane this year being faster. They just dropped the ball by leaving it open all race. They should have left it closed until the halfway point in the race.

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10/18/2017 10:27 AM

Every 4th lap you pit and do a shot of Jagermeister.

Hey, it’s just a thought.devil

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10/18/2017 10:28 AM

MagMx08 wrote:

How's about you can't use the joker lane if your in the top 5 and its available every lap for riders outside the top 5. This would create all kinds of chaos. kinda hurts my head thinking about it and how it would work.

Awesome idea.

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