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But that's apples to oranges.
That place struggled to hit National caliber. Didn't the promoter abscond with all the money from the last race? The National?
I dunno, seems to me, as a major principle in the company that controls the motocross here in the States,
there would be maybe 4 or 5 tracks that would be held as valuable to the whole scene in general.
And yeah, I don't wanna piss anyone off, but let's just say, if we lost Red Budd, Washougal, Unadilla or Budds Creek,
that would be a major blow to us here in the USA.
To let a major track, which got into trouble doing what most others wouldn't even attempt, get to the point they needed to start up a go fund me account, while the national organization that represents and reaps the goodwill it produced, kinda just helped with the fencing, is beyond me.
Anyway, sure wish I could do the whole tour as a spectator like MXrDW did in the past. The tracks seem so varied in both terrain and attendees. Good people watching, for sure!
That Skyshot thing a Unadilla looks sweet.
Wish I saw the first Bubba Scrub in person.
I'm too scared to camp at Red Bud, but I'd like to see LaRacco's leap in person.
Millville seems kinda like Glen Helen, but with better dirt and trees.
I rode Thunder Valley one day, that was a blast.
And you can't comprehend the hills at Glen Helen until you see (and ride) them in person.
No, that was my dad. He paid the purse for the last race, it was an Inter-Am/125 National. The owner of the farm was the one who went to jail for tax evasion. My dad had started Appalachian Highlands at Keyser's Ridge by then. He never did something like what you just implied.
"To let a major track, which got into trouble doing what most others wouldn't even attempt, get to the point they needed to start up a go fund me account, while the national organization that represents and reaps the goodwill it produced, kinda just helped with the fencing, is beyond me."
Motogrady, most others wouldn't attempt the MXoN because it was a bad deal at the time, and Jonathan knew it and was warned. I don't "reap his goodwill" and I do a hell of a lot more than "help with fencing."
But I can't fix his debts and legal problems, only he can. And you should add High Point and Spring Creek and Washougal and Hangtown and Southwick to your list of tracks that would be terrible to lose because they were all nationals long before Budds Creek, and they all look pretty damn good right now.
I'm sorry that Jonathan let his track fall from it's previous grandeur for awhile there. How you infer that it's somehow my fault that he quit improving the place or my responsibility to clean up his financial situation is ridiculous and absurd.
DC
Racer X
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dipshits,
by the way,
a still in the infield would be a good draw,mixed with red bull , moonshine makes their clothes fall off,or is it toes.
There are many reason's Budd's is in trouble, some of which are not polite to discuss publicly. It has been in trouble in the past and Jonathan has turned it around. Your blame is misplaced. Say sorry to Mr. Coombs. You're biting the hand that feeds you.
Hey, DC getting the Nationals over YS years ago was a Godsend.
And yes, he's probably the best guy for the job he holds.
But, that doesn't mean I can't voice an opinion.
I liken this situation to Major League Baseball letting the Yankees fold because they did an exhibition in Japan and lost their ass,
You guys think that would happen?
And yeah, I've met Davey and his sister at Highpoint, briefly. Nice people.
And we are lucky to have him.
But, by no means, by any stretch of the imagination does the guy feed me.
And no, I'm not apologizing to anyone for speaking my piece.
If Beasly is painting a different picture of what is the reality, first I've heard of it.
And one more thing, I am apologizing for bringing Dave Coombs into this. Didn't know he was the promoter where things went bad at Appalachia Lake. He was a great man.
We can agree to disagree, and we definitely do here. But we're still in moto (and West Virginia) together.
DC
Racer X
Still think Houston needs a national again :-)
Agreed.
End of July, Terra Alta, McKees Skyranch. Thursday, Vintage street ride thru the countryside.
Bring your street bike, I'll spring for the cold one at Shorthorns Saloon after the twisties.
Bring your street bike, I'll spring for the cold one at Shorthorns Saloon after the twisties.
I've heard about this! But I am always at Loretta Lynn's by then helping build out the national track.
But I'm riding my Scarmbler or my KTM Adventure plenty so anytime you're up for a visit, I'm always looking for new roads and old signs. I'm back on Monday from GH.
DC
Racer X
And the expensive 4 strokes are what's killing the sport.
Pit Row
"Mx sports sucks! Yeah I know Steve is paid by DC here and there but in the end you must have 95% proof! So if I said Fuck DC! Does that mean he can ban me from all AMA sports? If so then FUCK DC! He will one day regret the way he runs this sport as his personal kingdom and someone will build a new race series that puts him out of business. The sport should be ran by a non profit company who cares about the sport and not just the money! I bet the fines go directly to DC's bank account!"
I know you don't think much of me, and I'm okay with that, but people should remember that you have a personal axe to grind with me and the series every time you pop your head up and post six different times about how much better it was before I came along... Hope your Motocross Matrix is still on track.
DC
Racer X
Not one of my posts on here ever attacked anyone. Giving my opinion as to why there is less crowd turnout today vs years ago is not an attack. Most everyone on here said the same type of things.
DC any word on FIHR? Seems to me there was some talk a while back about it but I haven't heard anything in a while.
Keep comparing 2005 to 2017 and don't forget to include the influence of iPhones and video gaming on what kids do today, and the costs of motorcycles (and maintenance). But to imply sponsorship or television and everything was better "before new ownership" is the funny part. I get that you don't like me, and I can live with that. But you've already banned yourself from this series so why keep badgering it?
DC
Racer X
Iphones? Is that what is hurting the sport? I am sure it is not one thing hurting it. However costs are at the top of most opinions. Costs of the sport are just to high for most families and kids. Your in charge of half the sport DC. Its your show so if numbers are down it is all on you to figure out.
I notice you ever comment on my posts where I say the Outdoors are the best part of the sport? Or When I said SX should not expand and hurt the outdoors.
Terry, I don't sell the motorcycles, the six OEMs behind me in the pits (I'm in the Glen Helen media center writing Racerhead) do and I can't control what the price of maintaining a competitive race bike is from week to week. We are trying everything we can, on many levels, to help get more people into the sport. We have added two-stroke racing, we have upped the age restrictions on 250s and 450s, we have expanded online viewing, but this isn't 2005 or '06 and less people are buying motorcycles since the recession, across the board. Of course that is reflected at local races. But Hangtown had a great big crowd, and we hope Glen Helen and the rest do as well.
By the way, do you still really think I made up the laser thing? Do you really think I put fine money in my pocket?
Forget it, I have to go back to work.
DC
Racer X
No disrespect to Steph Curry but 2006 JS vs RC was like having the 93 Bulls with Jordan play Lebron and the 2017 Cavs, of course people came out to watch.
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