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30minmotos Liked a reply to forum topic Why you are fading at the 15-minute mark (and the problem with your off-bike training)
5/9/2026 9:12am
Honestly makes sense for most of the moto community. Let’s say they ride 1 day per wk and you flirt with zone 4 and 5 on a ride day. Do 2-4 stretching and lifting days 1 zone 4-5 cardio day 2-3 days after your ride day and 2-3 days before the next ride day. The stretching and lifting is what most of us need. I can’t even get in a good standing attack position comfortably anymore my hips and ankles are all so compromised from office job, commuting, injuries, lzyness, etc.
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jamesclark Added a reply to Why you are fading at the 15-minute mark (and the problem with your off-bike training)
5/9/2026 9:10am You’re right that Zone 4 pushes your lactate threshold higher, but relying on it exclusively is a trap. Look at any factory pro's program, Tomac, the Lawrence brothers, Deegan, or the top hard enduro guys. They spend hours every week grinding on road or mountain bikes at a conversational pace. They aren't doing that to waste time. Here is the...
Radical Liked a reply to forum topic Why you are fading at the 15-minute mark (and the problem with your off-bike training)
5/9/2026 9:09am
You lost me at Zone 2. Zone 2 is a waste of time. Work your way up to training for 45-60 minutes at Zone 4, flirting with Zone 5. Then give yourself plenty of time to recover. Lactate threshold improves. High intensity endurance improves.
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jamesclark Started a new thread Why you are fading at the 15-minute mark (and the problem with your off-bike training)
5/9/2026 7:11am If you are consistently losing lap time or making critical mistakes late in a moto, the issue usually isn't your bike setup. It is a structural flaw in your conditioning. Most amateur and semi-pro racers approach off-the-bike training with random inputs. You do a few heavy lifts, throw in some high-intensity interval training, or spend an hour on a stationary...
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