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Anyone ever use HGH and Testosterone Therapy? Good? Bad?
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I tried Viagra once, it was fun.
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I know people who have
What is your desired outcome?
Why do you want it?
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Didn't TFS use it and lose a shitload of weight?

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More energy, better exercise endurance. What about cancer and joint pain?
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Well, I admit I am not an expert, and there are many variations of test and HGH, some foreign shit is nasty.
Neither is going to cure cancer or likely slow it, it might aggravate it. It can help for some joint pain and as for energy and endurance, it can help but there are other things that can also help.
You might want to be more specific with what you're looking for and to do
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Well, the claims are that HGH and testosterone therapy will assist you're putuitary gland in returning levels of testosterone back to optimum levels of, say a 25 year old, enabling longer exercise edurance, build muscle mass, and better overall physiology. So my goal would be to try this and see if there is an increase of of these factors. I was curious if anyone had used this or not, and what the differences/ benefits were.
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Yeah, but do you exercise? Are you an athlete? Or are you just trying to get back 20 yrs because you think you can chemically?

Not ragging on you, just want to make sure it's understood what your goals are.

IMO, if you're not an athlete, it's really kind of a waste, unless your new goal is to be a pron star.
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burn1986 wrote:
Well, the claims are that HGH and testosterone therapy will assist you're putuitary gland in returning levels of testosterone back to optimum levels of, say a...
Well, the claims are that HGH and testosterone therapy will assist you're putuitary gland in returning levels of testosterone back to optimum levels of, say a 25 year old, enabling longer exercise edurance, build muscle mass, and better overall physiology. So my goal would be to try this and see if there is an increase of of these factors. I was curious if anyone had used this or not, and what the differences/ benefits were.
what if your only 24?
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flarider wrote:
Well, I admit I am not an expert, and there are many variations of test and HGH, some foreign shit is nasty. Neither is going to...
Well, I admit I am not an expert, and there are many variations of test and HGH, some foreign shit is nasty.
Neither is going to cure cancer or likely slow it, it might aggravate it. It can help for some joint pain and as for energy and endurance, it can help but there are other things that can also help.
You might want to be more specific with what you're looking for and to do
What is is good for joint pain?

I took Gluecosamine / Condroitian (no clue on how to spell either) for about seven months with no results. Would HGH be up my alley?
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Those silly people at the Mayo Clinic know a thing or two...

Sounds like all kinds of fun...

What are the risks of taking human growth hormone if you don't need it?

Human growth hormone may cause a number of side effects for healthy adults, including:

Carpal tunnel syndrome
Swelling in the arms and legs
Joint pain
Muscle pain
For men, enlargement of breast tissue (gynecomastia)
Human growth hormone may also contribute to conditions such as diabetes and heart disease.


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/growth-hormone/HA00030/NSECTIONGROUP=2
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Thanks Huck. I'll just stick with the pain!
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Huck takes the fun out of everything
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The wealthy have been dicking around with HGH and other hormones as the "fountain of youth" for years. I'm talking about the fancy spas in the middle of nowhere. There's an anti-aging group that will load you up.

TFS can detail his own stuff for you on his site. He talks about getting all the values in the right range using who knows what. According to his story, he had some other medical issues that caused his body to stop working right and all of his levels were way off.

I don't have a link to his healthy human website, but, you can probably find it easy enough. diet for humans or something like that.
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huck wrote:
Those silly people at the Mayo Clinic know a thing or two... Sounds like all kinds of fun... [i]What are the risks of taking human growth...
Those silly people at the Mayo Clinic know a thing or two...

Sounds like all kinds of fun...

What are the risks of taking human growth hormone if you don't need it?

Human growth hormone may cause a number of side effects for healthy adults, including:

Carpal tunnel syndrome
Swelling in the arms and legs
Joint pain
Muscle pain
For men, enlargement of breast tissue (gynecomastia)
Human growth hormone may also contribute to conditions such as diabetes and heart disease.


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/growth-hormone/HA00030/NSECTIONGROUP=2
Back when pro cyclists were first abusing it and taking crazy amounts there were cases of guys growing 2 shoe sizes in one season and guys having to have their jaws broken and restructured because they grew such a "shovel chin".
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Synthetic HGH injections do help rejuvinate cartlidge in joints, takes away wrinkles and does give you more energy, but its prescribed by a DR and is expensive. Anything else is garbage and only has traces of HGH in it so it can be sold over the counter while still claiming to be HGH based. All the other stuff they put into it is animal base products and none of them have to get through the FDA, so you never really know how good they are. Exsesive use of HGH will slowly shut down your pituitary gland and speed up the aging process.

For what you're looking for, steroid therapy wont work, just do a small cycle of steroids, you'll get bigger and have more energy that way too. Before you do either one, talk to a DR and not to a bunch of yay hohs on the net.
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HGH.....think "Ahhnold" to know what too much of this will do. In lower doses, you're fine. But you're also not getting any big performance enhancements from it either. Longevity? Maybe...studies are equivocal.

Testosterone.....this is the drug that absolutely feeds prostate cancer. You're an idiot to supplement testosterone, unless you have none/next to none in your body.

Not that I know anything. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express one time.....
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Taking hormones to feel younger seems like a very bad idea.

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CamP wrote:
Taking hormones to feel younger seems like a very bad idea.
True, I'd stick to banging younger chicks myself, they do say you're only as old as the woman you feel.
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I was taking 1% Testosterone due to my body not producing enough. Lost 25 lbs. in a hurry and noticed I could ride two motos without having to pace myself. I got so confident I tried a double on a vintage bike. I missed.Have not ridden since.
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CamP wrote:
Taking hormones to feel younger seems like a very bad idea.
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True, I'd stick to banging younger chicks myself, they do say you're only as old as the woman you feel.
So you are saying that I will still feel 48 if I am banging 24 year old twins?
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burn1986 wrote:
Anyone ever use HGH and Testosterone Therapy? Good? Bad?
Exactly how much money do you have? And if you have to ask, you haven't enough. The real stuff comes at a price no Medical Insurance will touch. Try Mexico. They are selling the goods down there.
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burn1986 wrote:
Anyone ever use HGH and Testosterone Therapy? Good? Bad?
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Exactly how much money do you have? And if you have to ask, you haven't enough. The real stuff comes at a price no Medical Insurance...
Exactly how much money do you have? And if you have to ask, you haven't enough. The real stuff comes at a price no Medical Insurance will touch. Try Mexico. They are selling the goods down there.
That's where a lot of my friends / ex softball players got their stuff from. One guy would travel down and get a very large shipment, and bring it back. Pretty simple, as long as you 'trust' the person you're getting it from.

I never needed that stuff, as I was good enough with out it.


No matter what you take, you'll still have to put the work in. It's not like you stick a needle in your ass, and you magically get big...
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burn1986 wrote:
Anyone ever use HGH and Testosterone Therapy? Good? Bad?
Tiki wrote:
Exactly how much money do you have? And if you have to ask, you haven't enough. The real stuff comes at a price no Medical Insurance...
Exactly how much money do you have? And if you have to ask, you haven't enough. The real stuff comes at a price no Medical Insurance will touch. Try Mexico. They are selling the goods down there.
huck wrote:
That's where a lot of my friends / ex softball players got their stuff from. One guy would travel down and get a very large shipment...
That's where a lot of my friends / ex softball players got their stuff from. One guy would travel down and get a very large shipment, and bring it back. Pretty simple, as long as you 'trust' the person you're getting it from.

I never needed that stuff, as I was good enough with out it.


No matter what you take, you'll still have to put the work in. It's not like you stick a needle in your ass, and you magically get big...
sooo...your friends went to Mexico and bought body chemistry altering drugs with potentially life affecting side effects to play softball?
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sooo...your friends went to Mexico and bought body chemistry altering drugs with potentially life affecting side effects to play softball?
Why not? There are people who do it just to quit moto boards and work for NASA....
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Tiki wrote:
Exactly how much money do you have? And if you have to ask, you haven't enough. The real stuff comes at a price no Medical Insurance...
Exactly how much money do you have? And if you have to ask, you haven't enough. The real stuff comes at a price no Medical Insurance will touch. Try Mexico. They are selling the goods down there.
huck wrote:
That's where a lot of my friends / ex softball players got their stuff from. One guy would travel down and get a very large shipment...
That's where a lot of my friends / ex softball players got their stuff from. One guy would travel down and get a very large shipment, and bring it back. Pretty simple, as long as you 'trust' the person you're getting it from.

I never needed that stuff, as I was good enough with out it.


No matter what you take, you'll still have to put the work in. It's not like you stick a needle in your ass, and you magically get big...
txmxer wrote:
sooo...your friends went to Mexico and bought body chemistry altering drugs with potentially life affecting side effects to play softball?
at $350.00 - $1,000.00 per weekend (plus expenses paid) it wasn't a bad investment for some....


Quite a few of them made much more, than the majority of "professional" mx-ers.
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huck wrote:
That's where a lot of my friends / ex softball players got their stuff from. One guy would travel down and get a very large shipment...
That's where a lot of my friends / ex softball players got their stuff from. One guy would travel down and get a very large shipment, and bring it back. Pretty simple, as long as you 'trust' the person you're getting it from.

I never needed that stuff, as I was good enough with out it.


No matter what you take, you'll still have to put the work in. It's not like you stick a needle in your ass, and you magically get big...
txmxer wrote:
sooo...your friends went to Mexico and bought body chemistry altering drugs with potentially life affecting side effects to play softball?
huck wrote:
at $350.00 - $1,000.00 per weekend (plus expenses paid) it wasn't a bad investment for some.... Quite a few of them made much more, than the...
at $350.00 - $1,000.00 per weekend (plus expenses paid) it wasn't a bad investment for some....


Quite a few of them made much more, than the majority of "professional" mx-ers.
you got paid to play softball?
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txmxer wrote:
sooo...your friends went to Mexico and bought body chemistry altering drugs with potentially life affecting side effects to play softball?
huck wrote:
at $350.00 - $1,000.00 per weekend (plus expenses paid) it wasn't a bad investment for some.... Quite a few of them made much more, than the...
at $350.00 - $1,000.00 per weekend (plus expenses paid) it wasn't a bad investment for some....


Quite a few of them made much more, than the majority of "professional" mx-ers.
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you got paid to play softball?
Yes sir..and traveled the country. A few of the guys, were getting $60,000 a year....
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huck wrote:
at $350.00 - $1,000.00 per weekend (plus expenses paid) it wasn't a bad investment for some.... Quite a few of them made much more, than the...
at $350.00 - $1,000.00 per weekend (plus expenses paid) it wasn't a bad investment for some....


Quite a few of them made much more, than the majority of "professional" mx-ers.
txmxer wrote:
you got paid to play softball?
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Yes sir..and traveled the country. A few of the guys, were getting $60,000 a year....
that friggen' rocks!
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txmxer wrote:
you got paid to play softball?
huck wrote:
Yes sir..and traveled the country. A few of the guys, were getting $60,000 a year....
txmxer wrote:
that friggen' rocks!
We played in a lot of minor league/old baseball stadiums.

The coolest was in Florida, we played on the OLD spring training field for the Yankees...

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