“7 LBS Of Muscle In 2 Weeks”

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

Read what I wrote again, you are agreeing with me, in a contradictory fashion.If you haven't seen an untrained (in the strength training world) early 20s...

Read what I wrote again, you are agreeing with me, in a contradictory fashion.

If you haven't seen an untrained (in the strength training world) early 20s, motivated trainee put on 5-7 scale lbs in two weeks when they start Creatine, heavy lifting, and prioritized recovery, I don't know what to tell you, but it's quite common. Note I said scale lbs - of course it's not full on lean tissue backed by a DEXA.

If you lift heavy, take 6 months off for injury, surgery, etc, then let me know what happens the first two weeks back - if it's only 1lb, part of your program is off. 

NotCore wrote:

They are skewering you on here with the down votes, but I took your point.  I have a 20something son (student, not athlete) that works out...

They are skewering you on here with the down votes, but I took your point.  

I have a 20something son (student, not athlete) that works out inconsistently.

 Gets busy, no workout for weeks, then starts the creatine and work out for two weeks hard and literally explodes with upper body muscles (or appears to).  I am sure its not lean muscle, but it appears to be.

Point taken.

Steiny Part-2 wrote:

You two are crazy. Nobody is putting on 7 pounds of muscle in a week no matter what stack they are taking. I doubt they would...

You two are crazy. Nobody is putting on 7 pounds of muscle in a week no matter what stack they are taking. I doubt they would even put on 7 pounds of weight, and if they did it would be mostly glycogen and fluid accumulation because muscle growth wouldn’t start in two weeks time. 
 Even if a guy who has been working out a few month and was building protein, still wouldn’t happen. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Maybe he got implants?

RightHookNoCandy wrote:

Said out loud to my wife when I heard that how fucking outrageous that is, its embarrassing that she would even mention it on the broadcast...

Said out loud to my wife when I heard that how fucking outrageous that is, its embarrassing that she would even mention it on the broadcast of a professional sport. 

So far beyond what is physiologically possible especially for someone with a frame like his that weighs 140lbs, just absolutely ridiculous. 

NSP139 wrote:

That was my first thought that it's absolutely embarrassing that a reporter for a professional series would be so ignorant to report such a thing a...

That was my first thought that it's absolutely embarrassing that a reporter for a professional series would be so ignorant to report such a thing a simple 30 second Google search would have explained that it's not possible🤷‍♂️

NotCore wrote:

They are skewering you on here with the down votes, but I took your point.  I have a 20something son (student, not athlete) that works out...

They are skewering you on here with the down votes, but I took your point.  

I have a 20something son (student, not athlete) that works out inconsistently.

 Gets busy, no workout for weeks, then starts the creatine and work out for two weeks hard and literally explodes with upper body muscles (or appears to).  I am sure its not lean muscle, but it appears to be.

Point taken.

Steiny Part-2 wrote:

You two are crazy. Nobody is putting on 7 pounds of muscle in a week no matter what stack they are taking. I doubt they would...

You two are crazy. Nobody is putting on 7 pounds of muscle in a week no matter what stack they are taking. I doubt they would even put on 7 pounds of weight, and if they did it would be mostly glycogen and fluid accumulation because muscle growth wouldn’t start in two weeks time. 
 Even if a guy who has been working out a few month and was building protein, still wouldn’t happen. 

NotCore wrote:

'I know what I have offered you, I know not what you have received'

Steiny Part-2 wrote:

You two are crazy. Nobody is putting on 7 pounds of muscle in a week no matter what stack they are taking. I doubt they would...

You two are crazy. Nobody is putting on 7 pounds of muscle in a week no matter what stack they are taking. I doubt they would even put on 7 pounds of weight, and if they did it would be mostly glycogen and fluid accumulation because muscle growth wouldn’t start in two weeks time. 
 Even if a guy who has been working out a few month and was building protein, still wouldn’t happen. 

NotCore wrote:

'I know what I have offered you, I know not what you have received'

Steiny Part-2 wrote:

I respect that answer. I guess my reply would be, because things seems impossible to me, do not think it’s impossible for anyone to accomplish  

 

NotCore wrote:

'I know what I have offered you, I know not what you have received'

Steiny Part-2 wrote:

I respect that answer. I guess my reply would be, because things seems impossible to me, do not think it’s impossible for anyone to accomplish  

 

Kevin852 wrote:

Impossible for anyone. No one is putting on 7lbs of muscle in two weeks. Especially a professional athlete that is already in a regular strength program...

Impossible for anyone. No one is putting on 7lbs of muscle in two weeks. Especially a professional athlete that is already in a regular strength program and fit. Assume Degz weighs 150lbs. That would amount to a 5% increase. Not in weight. In lean muscle mass. Not going to happen. For what it is worth here is what Google says. Now even if you double it with some pharmaceutical help, it is still well short. 

 

• Beginners (First 3–6 months): 1 to 3 pounds of muscle per month (often called "newbie gains" due to rapid neuromuscular adaptation).

• Intermediates (6 months–2 years): 0.5 to 1.5 pounds of muscle per month as growth naturally slows down.

• Advanced Lifters (2+ years): 0.25 to 0.5 pounds or less per month, approaching natural genetic limits.

tek14 wrote:

He could not ride MXON because they do test riders for ped. It wasnt about money after all. 

tek14 wrote:

He could not ride MXON because they do test riders for ped. It wasnt about money after all. 

web mx wrote:

That's what I kinda figured/wondered  all these years, he would ACT like he wanted to go earlier in the season then boom a different excuse each...

That's what I kinda figured/wondered  all these years, he would ACT like he wanted to go earlier in the season then boom a different excuse each year. Can't take the chance on being tested.

Steiny Part-2 wrote:

I respect that answer. I guess my reply would be, because things seems impossible to me, do not think it’s impossible for anyone to accomplish  

 

Kevin852 wrote:

Impossible for anyone. No one is putting on 7lbs of muscle in two weeks. Especially a professional athlete that is already in a regular strength program...

Impossible for anyone. No one is putting on 7lbs of muscle in two weeks. Especially a professional athlete that is already in a regular strength program and fit. Assume Degz weighs 150lbs. That would amount to a 5% increase. Not in weight. In lean muscle mass. Not going to happen. For what it is worth here is what Google says. Now even if you double it with some pharmaceutical help, it is still well short. 

 

• Beginners (First 3–6 months): 1 to 3 pounds of muscle per month (often called "newbie gains" due to rapid neuromuscular adaptation).

• Intermediates (6 months–2 years): 0.5 to 1.5 pounds of muscle per month as growth naturally slows down.

• Advanced Lifters (2+ years): 0.25 to 0.5 pounds or less per month, approaching natural genetic limits.

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:

It's almost as if every time I tried to expand on this, I said "scale pounds" and specifically said "of course it's not DEXA backed lean...

It's almost as if every time I tried to expand on this, I said "scale pounds" and specifically said "of course it's not DEXA backed lean mass"

I'd be frustrated if I didn't just accept that Vital is going to Vital and skip past nuance, but I appreciate that some understood the general point, and the levels of real world insight some may have to seeing similar things often enough to completely understand a 20 year old on a new program making that off hand remark to the media. 

It's not any deeper than that.