#18: MXGP of China

rym wrote:

The system is clearly not working. Having said that if you are a decent fast rider and willing to make the trip Infront actually helps with a...

The system is clearly not working. 

Having said that if you are a decent fast rider and willing to make the trip Infront actually helps with a bunch of kg free shipping. You can get your bikes without cost at the GP and no entry fee. It's why Braceras could race in Argentina at the start of the year. It still leaves you with the cost of staying abroad for over a week, a mechanic, parts that you use, etc. But in itself that isnt the issue if it was like a stand-alone event. 

The issue is that the privateers and small teams are allready having a very hard time to find the money to do most European rounds (next year 16 EU GP is 40.000 km if you are centrally located) so the budget is gone. Once you do 10+ GPs the mechanic cannot be a friend or dad because they can't stay away from work that long, so you are looking at a paid mechanic. Meaning a week in China is a lot of extra costs, with nothing to gain except experience being in Argentina or China for once. And this is all seen from the smallest setup with just 1 mechanic and the rider doing the tip. I dont think teams like van venrooy or SR Motoblouz are going with just 1 employee.

So long story short, this isnt just solved by Infront should pay the travel costs imo.

 

KurtJ99 wrote:

Is anybody else not seeing MX2 race replay on MXGP-TV?

Last Braaap wrote:

More riders in MX2 than MXGP, not a usual sight. After free practice i am kinda positively surprized with Brian Hsu on JHL. Was expecting 10+...

More riders in MX2 than MXGP, not a usual sight. After free practice i am kinda positively surprized with Brian Hsu on JHL. Was expecting 10+ seconds gap to first. Brian is good rider but i would still expect him to be 4 seconds a lap slower than Herlings on equal machinery. We will see.

Juck wrote:

Does anyone know what's going on with Oriol Oliver?

rym wrote:

The system is clearly not working. Having said that if you are a decent fast rider and willing to make the trip Infront actually helps with a...

The system is clearly not working. 

Having said that if you are a decent fast rider and willing to make the trip Infront actually helps with a bunch of kg free shipping. You can get your bikes without cost at the GP and no entry fee. It's why Braceras could race in Argentina at the start of the year. It still leaves you with the cost of staying abroad for over a week, a mechanic, parts that you use, etc. But in itself that isnt the issue if it was like a stand-alone event. 

The issue is that the privateers and small teams are allready having a very hard time to find the money to do most European rounds (next year 16 EU GP is 40.000 km if you are centrally located) so the budget is gone. Once you do 10+ GPs the mechanic cannot be a friend or dad because they can't stay away from work that long, so you are looking at a paid mechanic. Meaning a week in China is a lot of extra costs, with nothing to gain except experience being in Argentina or China for once. And this is all seen from the smallest setup with just 1 mechanic and the rider doing the tip. I dont think teams like van venrooy or SR Motoblouz are going with just 1 employee.

So long story short, this isnt just solved by Infront should pay the travel costs imo.

 

Bearuno wrote:

I appreciate  and understand what you are saying - My Idea of Travel Costs - IS , and always has been , the ALL Up costs...

I appreciate  and understand what you are saying - My Idea of Travel Costs - IS , and always has been , the ALL Up costs - for the whole bloody thing.

If you've seen my myriad posts about the GPs, you'll know that I Love the GPs ( been lucky enough to get to Many over the decades - but, not the Darwin one last year, or this year - 'She Who Must Be Obeyed' wanted to see Suzanne Vega next week at the Opera House, so, I'm not spending Thousands to go to Darwin - maybe never, as It's not much more to get to Europe, or the USA !) and  support the Riders and Teams, while so many here endlessly slag  the World Championship.

But I Utterly Despite Luongo, and now his son, and whatever organization / company he 'hooks up with' .

They bleed the sport dry, like the f**king Vampires they are. 

I think they've got the rights to the GPs, well into the 2030s. Faaaaaaark!

KurtJ99 wrote:

Is anybody else not seeing MX2 race replay on MXGP-TV?

Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:

Doesn’t seem to be uploaded yet. 

Just looked again, it is now.

Cortami79 wrote:

That would be pathetic and a bad look for Yamaha. Same as Lata not being allowed(?) to race the final three GP’s. You’re a factory rider...

That would be pathetic and a bad look for Yamaha. Same as Lata not being allowed(?) to race the final three GP’s. You’re a factory rider, signed a contract and now the team decides to just not sign up? 

THE mx addict wrote:

Lata made the choice himself not to go, apparently...

rym wrote:

The system is clearly not working. Having said that if you are a decent fast rider and willing to make the trip Infront actually helps with a...

The system is clearly not working. 

Having said that if you are a decent fast rider and willing to make the trip Infront actually helps with a bunch of kg free shipping. You can get your bikes without cost at the GP and no entry fee. It's why Braceras could race in Argentina at the start of the year. It still leaves you with the cost of staying abroad for over a week, a mechanic, parts that you use, etc. But in itself that isnt the issue if it was like a stand-alone event. 

The issue is that the privateers and small teams are allready having a very hard time to find the money to do most European rounds (next year 16 EU GP is 40.000 km if you are centrally located) so the budget is gone. Once you do 10+ GPs the mechanic cannot be a friend or dad because they can't stay away from work that long, so you are looking at a paid mechanic. Meaning a week in China is a lot of extra costs, with nothing to gain except experience being in Argentina or China for once. And this is all seen from the smallest setup with just 1 mechanic and the rider doing the tip. I dont think teams like van venrooy or SR Motoblouz are going with just 1 employee.

So long story short, this isnt just solved by Infront should pay the travel costs imo.

 

Bearuno wrote:

I appreciate  and understand what you are saying - My Idea of Travel Costs - IS , and always has been , the ALL Up costs...

I appreciate  and understand what you are saying - My Idea of Travel Costs - IS , and always has been , the ALL Up costs - for the whole bloody thing.

If you've seen my myriad posts about the GPs, you'll know that I Love the GPs ( been lucky enough to get to Many over the decades - but, not the Darwin one last year, or this year - 'She Who Must Be Obeyed' wanted to see Suzanne Vega next week at the Opera House, so, I'm not spending Thousands to go to Darwin - maybe never, as It's not much more to get to Europe, or the USA !) and  support the Riders and Teams, while so many here endlessly slag  the World Championship.

But I Utterly Despite Luongo, and now his son, and whatever organization / company he 'hooks up with' .

They bleed the sport dry, like the f**king Vampires they are. 

I think they've got the rights to the GPs, well into the 2030s. Faaaaaaark!

1911 wrote:

Suzanne Vega? That’s a name I have not heard in the last 30 years. Hope she puts on a good show.

Last Braaap wrote:

Hoping for Pancar podium & Hsu TOP10. Let's go.