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Don't ever change boo boo. You are one of the few who give me a chuckle in non-moto. The rest are like a bunch of old women at a sewing circle.
Strange. I wonder why Biden didn't release the Epstein files? With everything the Clinton and Biden camp tried to do to destroy trump, if his name is all over the Epstein files seems like low hanging fruit for the dirty democrats. They could have buried him, right? Really strange.
I thought Iran's military was already reduced to a single guy throwing rocks after the last 50 times Trump 'obliterated' them? Hasn't it ended yet?
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He can walk away now...
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/117162623815523911
I'm curious if you've ever had an original thought.
FDJT and all his supporters
They keep respawning 🤣
So no?
Rent free….
The true genius in your posts is that you have elements of truth which are entirely correct, while completely and utterly missing the point and undoing yourself with naive bollocks. Allow me to demonstrate...
- Correct. However, what you've ended up doing is getting rid of the 'sensible' Iranian leadership and replacing it with hardliners who are quite happy to fight to the death taking their whole country with them, You haven't ended the terror-sponsoring side at all, you have, in fact, emboldened it to dig in like a tick and wait so it can start over. It was in the worlds interest, but we told you it couldn't be done from the air because it couldn't, and now you've damaged every single economy globally of anyone who was an ally of yours more than you've hurt your enemies... Slow hand clap.
- All true, right up to your last sentence. Most of the countries in the Middle-East were about to recognise Israel prior to Hamas attacking, that's precisely why the attack was launched (likely at the behest of Iran) was to stop that from happening. Now, getting Hamas out, no-one will argue that's a bad thing. However, what Israel have done to do that is to basically get everyone out of Gaza and flatten it. Hardly the scalpel approach and it's created a significant problem probably for the next few hundred years.
- Er... Actually, most of the rest of the world has recognised the existence of a Palestinian state already, precisely becuase the Israelis refuse to do so and are hell-bent on illegally settling the West Bank, staying in Gaza and starting to slowly annexe Jerusalem.
- Fair. Most rational people don't hate Israel or jews though, they just think the current Israeli government is full of far-right headcases who have used this whole crisis to try and permanently kill any chance of a two-state solution and who proudly claim they want all Palestinians out of Israel including Gaza, the West Bank and everything else. There's no 'hate' there, just a dislike of politics and actions. The Israeli government is not Israel, or it's people, or it's religion.
It's a slow day, so allow me a part 2...
Second part, absolutely true. Too many have scaled back defense for too long and not stepped up. No arguments. To add nuance, countries proritised citizens over defense when faced with a global economic crash and a major pandemic shock followed by the huge cost to citizens of Russia starting a war In Ukraine, but it was with hindsight the wrong decision. However, there's a way to get that sorted which is to bolster those economies, strengthening military sales and development and build capability. You don't achieve it by starting another war in an energy providing area and taking a dump on everyone's front lawn...
If you guys feel that way, it's your prerogative. There's plenty of diplomatic ways to address that which don't smack the shit out of working people in all the countries you feel so aggrieved by though. Including 'diplomacy' which you seem an advocate of...
Bullshit. Firstly because your point is not what is happening (and you'd do well to educate yourself a bit on cultural differences), Free speech in the UK and Europe is not what it is in the US, it never has been and never will. If that's to change, it should be done through electoral and democratic processes on the choice of electorates in those countries. Put simply, just how Trump and Vance and whoever you elect to do whatever you'd like to do domestically is up to you, these are choices for us. Shut the fuck up and stay in your own lane, rather than trying to educate democracies that have existed from before the Vikings first landed on your shores how it's all supposed to work. It's none of your fucking business what we do domestically, just as your domestic choices aren't ours.
In line with my point above - Domestically, not my problem. God speed to him, you and whatever domestic agenda he sees fit to deliver. Globally, he'd be a clusterfuck. Already is.
Anyway, fun over, back to the shadows for me. Trying to debate things on here is a bit of a hiding to nothing and normally I know better. Thankfully, I have far more pressing shit to deal with including my end of year strip-down and regrease of all the bearings and moving bits on my 450 plus F1 practice starts soon.
At least Gantry25 is replying with some semblance of an argument versus memes and name-calling. And I largely agree with 90% of his stated goals. We just disagree on Trump’s methodology.
To the OP's original point, that would be me, here is a recent column by an "international security expert". He offers a 3 point plan.
https://www.jpost.com/defense-and-tech/article-906985
The article is an Israeli fantasy.
Congressional recognition of Iranian minority independence would not achieve anything within Iran.
If 750 thousand to 1.5 million American troops were sent to Iran, 50-70% would be fatalities, Iran has 2 years compulsory military service for 18 year olds and a total population of $90 million, a large percentage of them would fight, they have been preparing for this for 47 years.
China would not withdraw support for Iran, the US has no leverage over China.
No campaign has ever resulted in casualty rates that extreme. The Civil War probably was closest but not even the most violent war generates those returns.
Pit Row
Not sure if Israel backs this proposal or not but certainly a US invasion is fantasy no matter how many troops we have or how we get them. At least I hope it is. But, as me and many others stated long ago, it's the only way that the US and Israel can check all the boxes here.
The cost of "checking all the boxes" may not be worth it.
Two things.
I’d add that you won’t get your allies to spend more on their defence by hurting their economies with tariffs.
And secondly, you really think that the UK doesn’t have free speech?
"They followed historical precedents" Two of the most corrupt presidents and weaponized DOJ's of all time. A those court cases that President Trump fought just after he made it clear he may run again were just coincidence. I must say the funniest one was when they found classified documents in Biden's garage but refused to prosecute. This was after the FBI did a full raid on Mar-a-logo and brought federal charges against Trump for classified documents. This is really funny the excuses the left makes trying to justify the actions of the corrupt democrats.
Really enjoying the implosion of the democrat party after being the "big tent". You welcomed the DSA in along with all their ridiculous ideas. You reap what you sow. GO DSA!
The tarriffs are necessary to even the trading playing field from years of America being taken advantage of. Those trade deals went back to WW2. No more sweet heart deals.
How many people in the UK have been arrested for "grossly offensive speech". There are dozens of examples of what the government deems "offensive language" arrests online. The problem is who determines what is offensive? That is not free speech.
Just to try and highlight I've no axe to grinds on any particular 'side' here..
You casualty figure guesses there are miles off, like ludicrously far off. The US military isn't some group of conscripts thrown together at the last second and marched forwards with tracksuits on a-la Russia in Ukraine, and they're bloody good at dealing with insurgents and the kind of guerilla tactics the IRGC would use. Don't get me wrong, it would hurt the US and there'd be a severe cost to it, but 50-70%? Not even close.
China isn't interested in this conflict other than the opportunity it offers in tying the US down to a regional dispute while they go about 'settling' their Taiwan problem. They get less than 2% of their total crude production from Iran, and sell very little military capability to the Iranians. What 'support' they provide is very low level so they'd drop them in a heartbeat if they needed to.
Maybe now they get less that 2% but before the war started it was more like 12%. 40% of their imports came through the strait. They were Iran's biggest customer through the shadow fleet. China is very much concerned about this war but I doubt it would give them any incentive to join in an agreement with the US unless we ended the blockade and additional sanctions.
The involved don’t want to know about their culpability.
They’re neither aware nor are they interested in honest dialogue.
They are the most ignorant among us.
They are not legitimate individuals.
I like "the cut of your jib".
"The US military isn't some group of conscripts thrown together at the last second and marched forwards with tracksuits on a-la Russia in Ukraine"
The US military does not have 750 thousand to 1.5 million active troops, reserves and new recruits, including conscripts, would be needed to reach those numbers. Iran has 27 million men of fighting age who have had or currently serve in their military.
27 million fighting to defend their country, against 1.5 million fighting in a foreign land, with disrupted supply chains, in mountainous terrain, 50-70% is not unrealistic. Iran has been preparing it's population for this for 47 years.
Do our resident IRGC/pro-Iran cheerleaders have any info on how many of those 27 million Iranian would-be fighters are getting paid or have gas for their vehicles?
What are they paying for food?
What’s the value of their rial? (As in what does it buy them these days?)
Also, why don’t you explain to the rest of us the difference between the IRGC and the typical Iranian militia members…?
Asking for a friend.
27 million men that will not fight for this regime. Regardless, the country is going to collapse from within there will be no need for ground troops.
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