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davis224 wrote:
Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having...

Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having a decent bike that you can do whatever you want to it, vs near unlimited resources in a certain window? It's working for Garrett, but Toendel has only had maybe one round on the factory bike where he showed decent speed.

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I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top...

I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top 5 or anything. Fineis has had better results than Toendel did on the Partzilla bike. 

But he was significantly better on the privateer bike. How many top 10 motos has he had on the factory bike? Last week he had a good start and just worked his way back, way back. Didn't he have a few top 10s on ISRT? (Not partzilla, by the way)

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DonJulio wrote:

0-20 0 laps led I LOVE IT

You seem to have developed a crush on Dangerboy.  He’s all you think about! 💁‍♂️

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DonJulio wrote:

Passed danger girl and put another 35 on em 

But he still beat Jett overall  correct? 

2-4 beats a 5-2 no? 

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But he still beat Jett overall  correct? 

2-4 beats a 5-2 no? 

That’s what the math says this weekend! 

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DonJulio wrote:

Passed danger girl and put another 35 on em 

But he still beat Jett overall  correct? 

2-4 beats a 5-2 no? 

not the first time he’s beat him on overall. We all saw Jett pass him and absolutely gap him is what matters

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DonJulio wrote:

0-20 0 laps led I LOVE IT

More like…

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I love this girl's accent. But her questions are so long that it ends up not being a question at the end. 😁

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Mitchell Harrison again continues to be the worst lapper in the sport. He is consistenly blind to blue flags and just parks in the racing line. What a loser

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davis224 wrote:
Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having...

Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having a decent bike that you can do whatever you want to it, vs near unlimited resources in a certain window? It's working for Garrett, but Toendel has only had maybe one round on the factory bike where he showed decent speed.

I think it’s the new team. Not that they’re bad, but it has to be like going to a new job. All new people, new processes, it’s a lot of change to make mid-season.

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DonJulio wrote:

Passed danger girl and put another 35 on em 

But he still beat Jett overall  correct? 

2-4 beats a 5-2 no? 

DonJulio wrote:

not the first time he’s beat him on overall. We all saw Jett pass him and absolutely gap him is what matters

I mean im a Lawrence brothers guy all day, just checking my math. 

 

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Fun day of racing 

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davis224 wrote:
Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having...

Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having a decent bike that you can do whatever you want to it, vs near unlimited resources in a certain window? It's working for Garrett, but Toendel has only had maybe one round on the factory bike where he showed decent speed.

ohh_454 wrote:
I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top...

I think this is just where Toendel is at, factory bike or privateer bike. I didn’t think a factory bike would catapult him to the top 5 or anything. Fineis has had better results than Toendel did on the Partzilla bike. 

davis224 wrote:
But he was significantly better on the privateer bike. How many top 10 motos has he had on the factory bike? Last week he had a...

But he was significantly better on the privateer bike. How many top 10 motos has he had on the factory bike? Last week he had a good start and just worked his way back, way back. Didn't he have a few top 10s on ISRT? (Not partzilla, by the way)

Off the top of my head without looking at results I’d say he’s had 2 top tens on each of the Kawis he’s rode. I think he was around 12th more on the privateer bike than 17th like he’s been on the factory bike tho. 

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Jorge Prado riding well. I think there's room for improvement especially getting through traffic. He's pretty bad at that for some reason. 

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1 point championship to end it, damm i wish I was going to Crawfordsville this year. 

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looplabmx wrote:

Jorge Prado riding well. I think there's room for improvement especially getting through traffic. He's pretty bad at that for some reason. 

He always has been.

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Stats show this is Jett’s worst race he’s ever finished, and he’s 4th. WTF.

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looplabmx wrote:

Jorge Prado riding well. I think there's room for improvement especially getting through traffic. He's pretty bad at that for some reason. 

He had the fastest lap in the second moto... dood is hauling ass.... 

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Its wild how often people crash out of deegans way. It was extreme in the 250s but even happens in the 450s. Both rj and barcia crashed out of the way in front of him to give him 2 more positions. Idk if its all just a coincidence but its crazy. 

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Genuinely questioning if Jett would rather see his brother win than himself…really seems like he’s not going for it

Mavetism wrote:
I think Hunter wants to beat Jett more than Jett wants to beat Hunter. Obviously Jett wants to win, but whenever Hunter wins, Jett kinda seems...

I think Hunter wants to beat Jett more than Jett wants to beat Hunter. Obviously Jett wants to win, but whenever Hunter wins, Jett kinda seems chill with it. Whenever Jett wins, Hunter is rather pissed.

But Hunter is a sicko currently, it's not like Jett isn't trying I think. Just very hard to make up time aswell when they're riding the same pace

I don’t get the feeling that he put in his best the whole motos. 

A couple of times this year in the same situation with Hunter up front and Jett coming through the pack he don’t seems to be in a rush. Then with a couple of minutes left he unleash hell and makes some critical passes. 

And as a spectator you can only but wonder where was that speed the whole moto? And it’s not like he looks spent when he takes his helmet off either.

I’m with the ”if there was another rider up front” he would push harder group here.

Ofc he is not his old self, but there seem to be a little more in the tank when he want to use it..

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Deeg’s giving’ props to BamBam. Go figure! 

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looplabmx wrote:

Jorge Prado riding well. I think there's room for improvement especially getting through traffic. He's pretty bad at that for some reason. 

gt80rider wrote:

He had the fastest lap in the second moto... dood is hauling ass.... 

Yeah, fastest lap in the second moto was impressive. 

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8/22/2026 2:59pm
Perky wrote:

Stats show this is Jett’s worst race he’s ever finished, and he’s 4th. WTF.

The stats don't

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TeamGreen wrote:

Deeg’s giving’ props to BamBam. Go figure! 

That’s cool! 🤙

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Perky wrote:

Stats show this is Jett’s worst race he’s ever finished, and he’s 4th. WTF.

And the other only race outside the podium he got penalized a full lap which led to him scoring zero points in a moto. It is kinda wild. Hunters stats are also insane though, he was never outside the top 5th in 450 MX except for last weekend.

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davis224 wrote:
Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having...

Toendel really hasn't been the same since he's gotten on the factory bike. Too much pressure? Or is there really something to be said for having a decent bike that you can do whatever you want to it, vs near unlimited resources in a certain window? It's working for Garrett, but Toendel has only had maybe one round on the factory bike where he showed decent speed.

Perky wrote:
I think it’s the new team. Not that they’re bad, but it has to be like going to a new job. All new people, new processes...

I think it’s the new team. Not that they’re bad, but it has to be like going to a new job. All new people, new processes, it’s a lot of change to make mid-season.

I can see it being that and the mindset too. Going from an underdog team, you have the desire to prove you can be better than the factory teams, and if you fail, oh well, you showed some good speed for a little bit and got eyes on yourself and the program. Switch to the factory bike, now there's expectations. A whole ass crew riding on your result, and you BETTER do better than your old bike, no excuses now!

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But he still beat Jett overall  correct? 

2-4 beats a 5-2 no? 

DonJulio wrote:

not the first time he’s beat him on overall. We all saw Jett pass him and absolutely gap him is what matters

I mean im a Lawrence brothers guy all day, just checking my math. 

 

correct....deegs beat Jett for overall.....still gets third

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One forum member will be on the sidelines through next week. We'll see after that.

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