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7/30/2026 12:38pm

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 
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Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 

That's not the whole week. Just some of it. 

I said a few posts back though. 

If you sign up for flocollege.com

The sign in also works on floracing and it's only 20 bucks a month or 109 a year. 

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7/30/2026 1:38pm Edited Date/Time 7/30/2026 1:43pm

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 
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Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 

I found it free too. Looks like anybody with a Prime membership can watch at least 2 days for free!  Right now its only showing Monday and Tuesday.  Anybody know if they will allow people to watch the entire week on Amazon?? 

 

 Nevermind I went back and looked threw this thread a little deeper and found that it looks like its just highlights. And or certain Motos that will be on Amazon. 

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7/30/2026 1:49pm
Flo Racing is the sole reason why I decided to no longer be a Snocross fan. For all the previously mentioned reasons. They killed that sport...

Flo Racing is the sole reason why I decided to no longer be a Snocross fan. For all the previously mentioned reasons. They killed that sport. I used to go to Canterbury every year and have made it 1x in the last 15 years because I have no idea who the riders and teams are anymore due to the cost to watch. I mean c'mon, who hasn't heard of Blair Morgan, Tucker Hibbert, or Levi LaVallee? It's because there was a time where you could watch on cable / sat.

Moto better be careful not to follow that path.

 

X2 on this. Flo has completely killed off snocross, it’s like it doesn’t exist anymore. Can’t find or watch a single heat race or final, full races don’t even make it to YouTube! 

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7/30/2026 2:04pm Edited Date/Time 7/30/2026 2:17pm

I would love nothing more than an independent promoter to come along, and put together something like WSX is to SX for the amateur scene and see LL go down. 

They need more amateur races each year. Less classes, and a more realistic path to the pros than just 2 weeks and 6 motos each summer. 

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7/30/2026 2:13pm

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 
image 3518

Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 

dizzy8085 wrote:
That's not the whole week. Just some of it. I said a few posts back though. If you sign up for flocollege.comThe sign in also works on floracing...

That's not the whole week. Just some of it. 

I said a few posts back though. 

If you sign up for flocollege.com

The sign in also works on floracing and it's only 20 bucks a month or 109 a year. 

Looks like You could sign up for the subscription pay for the month and cancel it right away and You would have it for the month. 

If You can really cancel anytime.  It says that You can, and that Your account will remain active for the rest of the billing period that You have paid for.   

Unless they have something that charges You to cancel before a certain time, that could be the most cost effective option. They say cancel at anytime, but did not say if there was or wasn't a fee for canceling before a certain amount of time has passed.

 So keep that in mind that they could have some hidden fees if You try and go for the $8.99 per month plan and cancel it right away. 

 

But $20 really isn't that bad.  I might give it a try for $20. at $40 I'm not interested enough. The racers that I wanna hear about will be posting their own videos and updates that I can watch.  But at $20 , that's not bad. I might try it and see how the other stuff is. I really don't want another subscription , I'm gonna drop cable soon. Now that my Mom has passed , there really isn't any need for cable so I'm gonna drop that and keep peacock and Prime. Maybe Flo will win me over too. But I enjoy Youtube more than the stuff that is produced and in a TV style format.  Something about the rawness.  

 

 I was watching one of Buttery Films videos he did of Washougal and it was pretty good. His camera and video quality are better than the streams I see on peacock. And the angles he got made it feel more like I was at the races.  I'm starting to enjoy that style content more.  Some of You may get annoyed by the bro time and interactions with fans, but I recommend checking out some of his race coverage no matter what You think of his other videos. He gets the good angles and has quality footage. 

 

 I would rather watch stuff like that, the Deegans, This is Lawrence, etc. than the other stuff thats on Flo. I wonder if services like Flo will start to try and buy up Youtube channels to have them on their streaming service as an exclusive? As that stuff takes more of a bite out of cable and conventional TV style media, I wonder  how they will adapt.  

 

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7/30/2026 2:19pm

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 
image 3518

Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 

I found it free too. Looks like anybody with a Prime membership can watch at least 2 days for free!  Right now its only showing Monday...

I found it free too. Looks like anybody with a Prime membership can watch at least 2 days for free!  Right now its only showing Monday and Tuesday.  Anybody know if they will allow people to watch the entire week on Amazon?? 

 

 Nevermind I went back and looked threw this thread a little deeper and found that it looks like its just highlights. And or certain Motos that will be on Amazon. 

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live at 7pm ?

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KurtJ99 wrote:
Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 
image 3518

Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 

dizzy8085 wrote:
That's not the whole week. Just some of it. I said a few posts back though. If you sign up for flocollege.comThe sign in also works on floracing...

That's not the whole week. Just some of it. 

I said a few posts back though. 

If you sign up for flocollege.com

The sign in also works on floracing and it's only 20 bucks a month or 109 a year. 

Looks like You could sign up for the subscription pay for the month and cancel it right away and You would have it for the month. If...

Looks like You could sign up for the subscription pay for the month and cancel it right away and You would have it for the month. 

If You can really cancel anytime.  It says that You can, and that Your account will remain active for the rest of the billing period that You have paid for.   

Unless they have something that charges You to cancel before a certain time, that could be the most cost effective option. They say cancel at anytime, but did not say if there was or wasn't a fee for canceling before a certain amount of time has passed.

 So keep that in mind that they could have some hidden fees if You try and go for the $8.99 per month plan and cancel it right away. 

 

But $20 really isn't that bad.  I might give it a try for $20. at $40 I'm not interested enough. The racers that I wanna hear about will be posting their own videos and updates that I can watch.  But at $20 , that's not bad. I might try it and see how the other stuff is. I really don't want another subscription , I'm gonna drop cable soon. Now that my Mom has passed , there really isn't any need for cable so I'm gonna drop that and keep peacock and Prime. Maybe Flo will win me over too. But I enjoy Youtube more than the stuff that is produced and in a TV style format.  Something about the rawness.  

 

 I was watching one of Buttery Films videos he did of Washougal and it was pretty good. His camera and video quality are better than the streams I see on peacock. And the angles he got made it feel more like I was at the races.  I'm starting to enjoy that style content more.  Some of You may get annoyed by the bro time and interactions with fans, but I recommend checking out some of his race coverage no matter what You think of his other videos. He gets the good angles and has quality footage. 

 

 I would rather watch stuff like that, the Deegans, This is Lawrence, etc. than the other stuff thats on Flo. I wonder if services like Flo will start to try and buy up Youtube channels to have them on their streaming service as an exclusive? As that stuff takes more of a bite out of cable and conventional TV style media, I wonder  how they will adapt.  

 

Yeah, I went ahead and signed up for 109 bucks for the year through flo college. I wanted to see if it worked and there's some drag racing and circle track racing I'm interested in on there. 

I checked and it has the entire mammoth motocross event's streams archived on it and all the gncc's since the switch to flo. Works well enough.


It's still complete crap that's not on youtube for free as it has been for over a decade. But o well. 

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7/30/2026 3:31pm

I typiucally will watch a few motos and mostly highlights but I aint paying any extra to watch it. But if its on prime then ill tune it

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7/30/2026 3:57pm
DonM wrote:

You know this how?

Tyler D wrote:

Revenues have risen more than costs. 

DonM wrote:
I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have...

I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have been declining and cost are increasing....Hey I'm like the majority here I don't like it that they are going to FLO and I won't be buying it....But when people post something as dumb as "they already make enough" or "Revenues have risen more than costs" it tells me how far some people are from reality and just make shit up to fit their agenda...

What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?

What makes you think their revenues are declining? 

Next you're going to tell me all these concert promoters charging millennials $150 a ticket are barely making ends meet. Bc tariffs. Or something. 

 

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7/30/2026 4:24pm Edited Date/Time 7/31/2026 7:51am
KurtJ99 wrote:
Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 
image 3518

Thanks! appears free with Amazon prime. 

I found it free too. Looks like anybody with a Prime membership can watch at least 2 days for free!  Right now its only showing Monday...

I found it free too. Looks like anybody with a Prime membership can watch at least 2 days for free!  Right now its only showing Monday and Tuesday.  Anybody know if they will allow people to watch the entire week on Amazon?? 

 

 Nevermind I went back and looked threw this thread a little deeper and found that it looks like its just highlights. And or certain Motos that will be on Amazon. 

image 3522

live at 7pm ?

Yah  I  noticed that after I posted  and edited it with the images.   Too much multitasking.   

 

I just looked into a bit more and its the preview show thats live on Monday. Looks like Flo is live at the same time. 

 

The other day shows coverage starting at 4PM.  on Prime , It should be showing eastern time since I was logged into my amazon account. That means 3pm local time. with TN on Central time. They are still racing at that time  normally so maybe it will show a class or few. or maybe just a recap of the first day of racing.  Who knows, I'm thinking about trying a subscription through the flocollege  way that has been pointed out. 

 I was able to also confirm that  the subscription includes the floracing content too. If You go to the fahQ , and look at the what You get, scroll down and it has racing. If You click on the word it brings you to the floracing site.  So that really should mean that its included.  I saw another poster say they signed up for flocollege and are able to see the GNCC coverage and Mammoth replays.    

 

REASON FOR EDITING

 Noticed I had the wrong time written when I put the local time. I had delegated some of my post and the 6Pm part was from something I said about Monday before I noticed Flo was also starting at the sametime. So it was no longer relevant and I deleted it and should have changed the local time to 3Pm when I was talking about Tuesday. Not that anybody cares. I just wanted to correct my post.

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7/30/2026 4:29pm

Definitley bummed. I watch and keep up with LL every year. I guess I won’t be able to watch Mini O’s either. Ridiculous.

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7/30/2026 4:34pm Edited Date/Time 7/30/2026 5:11pm
Tyler D wrote:

Revenues have risen more than costs. 

DonM wrote:
I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have...

I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have been declining and cost are increasing....Hey I'm like the majority here I don't like it that they are going to FLO and I won't be buying it....But when people post something as dumb as "they already make enough" or "Revenues have risen more than costs" it tells me how far some people are from reality and just make shit up to fit their agenda...

Tyler D wrote:
What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?What makes you think their revenues are declining? Next you're going to tell me all...

What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?

What makes you think their revenues are declining? 

Next you're going to tell me all these concert promoters charging millennials $150 a ticket are barely making ends meet. Bc tariffs. Or something. 

 

You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in the opposite is true…you mage the statement pretty sure that burden of proof is on you…I’ll wait…

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7/30/2026 5:39pm

Get Flo for the year. Watch Loretta’s. Watch High Limit Sprint Cars- quite a few live races during the week too. Chili Bowl and Shootout in Dec. and Jan. Worth every dime if you’re a race fan. 

Then back to Peacock For SMX. Cancel some other shit you don’t need if money is tight. 

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7/30/2026 5:51pm

Eh...Im gonna pay the $50 or whatever it is to watch the 5 or 6 races on WSX as it was pretty entertaining last year.

In comparison, $40 or LL's...just...no. 

Will see what it costs to pay to watch MXdN...usually I do but with the Lawrence Bros not racing it diminishes my desire to watch. On the fence

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7/30/2026 5:51pm Edited Date/Time 7/30/2026 5:52pm
DonM wrote:
I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have...

I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have been declining and cost are increasing....Hey I'm like the majority here I don't like it that they are going to FLO and I won't be buying it....But when people post something as dumb as "they already make enough" or "Revenues have risen more than costs" it tells me how far some people are from reality and just make shit up to fit their agenda...

Tyler D wrote:
What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?What makes you think their revenues are declining? Next you're going to tell me all...

What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?

What makes you think their revenues are declining? 

Next you're going to tell me all these concert promoters charging millennials $150 a ticket are barely making ends meet. Bc tariffs. Or something. 

 

DonM wrote:
You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in...

You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in the opposite is true…you mage the statement pretty sure that burden of proof is on you…I’ll wait…

"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have increased in recent years. in addition, as a promoter-type business with a highly-optimized routine and long-tenured employees, it is likely their costs have remained relatively consistent. Unless the venue has raised rates precipitously, after a stable decades-long relationship, or unless event insurance has become exceedingly expensive for them despite a dearth of tort lawsuits in their lengthy history, there are no foreseeable reasons why costs would rise more than what they're able to recoup through aforementioned increase in fees. Because they continue to put on this event when there is the potential opportunity cost of not developing their pro motocross business further in lieu of this event, one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."

not ai. you're welcome. we don't always have all the facts, but we have the ability to intuit and infer based on likely realities. if expressing an opinion on this basis in a public forum this bothers you, maybe go read a newspaper. 

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At the end of the day, vote with your wallets. If it means something enough to you, $40 for multiple days of racing which is $8 a day isn't horrible. You'll spend more on your coffee, beer, tabacco, or whatever your vice is easily. Yes it was free but the demand was high enough to make it something to be paid for so they made a business decision which is what Capitalism is all about in our country. So let the numbers of subscribers who pay give them the signal if they need to go back to YouTube free or not. This is all said without knowing if the production team will be different or not but keep that in mind when you vote with your wallet. Complaining on vital won't change it tho. I'm still undecided but gotta have perspective.

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38special wrote:
MX Sports, RacerX and RacerTV sure look like related entities to me:   

MX Sports, RacerX and RacerTV sure look like related entities to me:

 

image 3513image 3514.png?VersionId=.sWsXwkJQsbuff4zZCximage 3515

 

Yup , all managed by World Sports Holdings LLC which is owned by the Coomb's .I  went down that rabbit hole of Racer magazine and...

Yup , all managed by World Sports Holdings LLC which is owned by the Coomb's .

I  went down that rabbit hole of Racer magazine and Racer X magazine years ago.  And its just another reason not to trust what AI tells you with a lot of things like that.   

 It is so strange that 2 similar companies exist and have no relation.

 One doing similar stuff  but with automotive focus. Thats where people are getting confused.  AI is telling them that Racer TV is the Racer Network.  And it is not.  The Racer network is  automotive  and connected to RACER magazine  no X.  ,  Racer TV is motorcycle and connected to Racer Productions and Racer-X magazine.  

 Similar enough for AI to combine them and how you ask the question will determine what the answer is. The more I use AI in my serch's the more it feels like its feeding more into confirmation biased info. And not strictly factual stuff. 

The Racer Productions logo and Racer Media logo look similar but are not the same.  It's similar enough that it seems to have  confused  some people.

I stand corrected and appreciate the details.  Definitely looks like a strong affiliation and much more than I thought.  

I still have no issue with them growing revenue and the Flo coverage does include many events not affiliated with MX Sports.  I was not aware they also covered some Regionals earlier this year too.

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7/30/2026 6:06pm

Lol, anyone want to take wagers on if the 2 people in here defending this will actually pay to watch LLs this year?

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Tyler D wrote:
What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?What makes you think their revenues are declining? Next you're going to tell me all...

What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?

What makes you think their revenues are declining? 

Next you're going to tell me all these concert promoters charging millennials $150 a ticket are barely making ends meet. Bc tariffs. Or something. 

 

DonM wrote:
You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in...

You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in the opposite is true…you mage the statement pretty sure that burden of proof is on you…I’ll wait…

Tyler D wrote:
"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have...

"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have increased in recent years. in addition, as a promoter-type business with a highly-optimized routine and long-tenured employees, it is likely their costs have remained relatively consistent. Unless the venue has raised rates precipitously, after a stable decades-long relationship, or unless event insurance has become exceedingly expensive for them despite a dearth of tort lawsuits in their lengthy history, there are no foreseeable reasons why costs would rise more than what they're able to recoup through aforementioned increase in fees. Because they continue to put on this event when there is the potential opportunity cost of not developing their pro motocross business further in lieu of this event, one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."

not ai. you're welcome. we don't always have all the facts, but we have the ability to intuit and infer based on likely realities. if expressing an opinion on this basis in a public forum this bothers you, maybe go read a newspaper. 

That's a lot of words to simply say "I have no idea". 

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Tyler D wrote:
What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?What makes you think their revenues are declining? Next you're going to tell me all...

What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?

What makes you think their revenues are declining? 

Next you're going to tell me all these concert promoters charging millennials $150 a ticket are barely making ends meet. Bc tariffs. Or something. 

 

DonM wrote:
You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in...

You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in the opposite is true…you mage the statement pretty sure that burden of proof is on you…I’ll wait…

Tyler D wrote:
"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have...

"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have increased in recent years. in addition, as a promoter-type business with a highly-optimized routine and long-tenured employees, it is likely their costs have remained relatively consistent. Unless the venue has raised rates precipitously, after a stable decades-long relationship, or unless event insurance has become exceedingly expensive for them despite a dearth of tort lawsuits in their lengthy history, there are no foreseeable reasons why costs would rise more than what they're able to recoup through aforementioned increase in fees. Because they continue to put on this event when there is the potential opportunity cost of not developing their pro motocross business further in lieu of this event, one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."

not ai. you're welcome. we don't always have all the facts, but we have the ability to intuit and infer based on likely realities. if expressing an opinion on this basis in a public forum this bothers you, maybe go read a newspaper. 

Maybe so and definitely AI.....but "one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."  How is that bad??  Capitalism at its finest.  The customer has the choice to support or not.

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7/30/2026 7:22pm
38special wrote:
MX Sports, RacerX and RacerTV sure look like related entities to me:   

MX Sports, RacerX and RacerTV sure look like related entities to me:

 

image 3513image 3514.png?VersionId=.sWsXwkJQsbuff4zZCximage 3515

 

Yup , all managed by World Sports Holdings LLC which is owned by the Coomb's .I  went down that rabbit hole of Racer magazine and...

Yup , all managed by World Sports Holdings LLC which is owned by the Coomb's .

I  went down that rabbit hole of Racer magazine and Racer X magazine years ago.  And its just another reason not to trust what AI tells you with a lot of things like that.   

 It is so strange that 2 similar companies exist and have no relation.

 One doing similar stuff  but with automotive focus. Thats where people are getting confused.  AI is telling them that Racer TV is the Racer Network.  And it is not.  The Racer network is  automotive  and connected to RACER magazine  no X.  ,  Racer TV is motorcycle and connected to Racer Productions and Racer-X magazine.  

 Similar enough for AI to combine them and how you ask the question will determine what the answer is. The more I use AI in my serch's the more it feels like its feeding more into confirmation biased info. And not strictly factual stuff. 

The Racer Productions logo and Racer Media logo look similar but are not the same.  It's similar enough that it seems to have  confused  some people.

I stand corrected and appreciate the details.  Definitely looks like a strong affiliation and much more than I thought.  I still have no issue with them...

I stand corrected and appreciate the details.  Definitely looks like a strong affiliation and much more than I thought.  

I still have no issue with them growing revenue and the Flo coverage does include many events not affiliated with MX Sports.  I was not aware they also covered some Regionals earlier this year too.

I hope it can be turned into a positive thing.  I'm putting my experiences with Flo in the past, and having seen people organically find the Loretta's coverage on Youtube and watch as first time views.  And I feel like the chances of that are lower going to Flo.

 I hope I'm wrong and that this deal opens up more coverage for Am racing at other events . I was hoping to see Racer TV grow into a platform that would add local series streaming at some point as all the equipment to do stuff like this becomes less expensive and more people know what to do to get a live stream going. 

 

I was trying to think of some pros to the move to flo. 

One I thought of is that it could expose other motorsports fans to it through flo. People that went there to see their niche sport finding motocross.  I think that most people know it exists at some level.  Not as many realize how big , but still small the sport is. So maybe it has a stronger chance of pulling in new viewers on flo. I do expect that they will lose some. Maybe not as many as I think, and maybe it will drop overall viewership, but increase the retention and viewing time. If its free, I don't feel as bad checking in on a few classes. If I'm paying for it I wanna get my monies worth and have that thing running the entire time.

 

I think that the free stream likely helped local kids gather up real money to help cover the trip down.Being able to tell  potential sponsors they can watch the race and see what their funding helped do. And if their rider finishes well enough even hear their company  thanked  on the show.  I guess its not a lot more  to pay another few bucks to be able to watch the riders You helped out. But  it was nice the way it has been.  

 

 Hopefully the streams work out well and Flo is up to handling the level of streaming that will happen and its not a rerun of a few years ago and the Nationals.

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Yup , all managed by World Sports Holdings LLC which is owned by the Coomb's .I  went down that rabbit hole of Racer magazine and...

Yup , all managed by World Sports Holdings LLC which is owned by the Coomb's .

I  went down that rabbit hole of Racer magazine and Racer X magazine years ago.  And its just another reason not to trust what AI tells you with a lot of things like that.   

 It is so strange that 2 similar companies exist and have no relation.

 One doing similar stuff  but with automotive focus. Thats where people are getting confused.  AI is telling them that Racer TV is the Racer Network.  And it is not.  The Racer network is  automotive  and connected to RACER magazine  no X.  ,  Racer TV is motorcycle and connected to Racer Productions and Racer-X magazine.  

 Similar enough for AI to combine them and how you ask the question will determine what the answer is. The more I use AI in my serch's the more it feels like its feeding more into confirmation biased info. And not strictly factual stuff. 

The Racer Productions logo and Racer Media logo look similar but are not the same.  It's similar enough that it seems to have  confused  some people.

I stand corrected and appreciate the details.  Definitely looks like a strong affiliation and much more than I thought.  I still have no issue with them...

I stand corrected and appreciate the details.  Definitely looks like a strong affiliation and much more than I thought.  

I still have no issue with them growing revenue and the Flo coverage does include many events not affiliated with MX Sports.  I was not aware they also covered some Regionals earlier this year too.

I hope it can be turned into a positive thing.  I'm putting my experiences with Flo in the past, and having seen people organically find the...

I hope it can be turned into a positive thing.  I'm putting my experiences with Flo in the past, and having seen people organically find the Loretta's coverage on Youtube and watch as first time views.  And I feel like the chances of that are lower going to Flo.

 I hope I'm wrong and that this deal opens up more coverage for Am racing at other events . I was hoping to see Racer TV grow into a platform that would add local series streaming at some point as all the equipment to do stuff like this becomes less expensive and more people know what to do to get a live stream going. 

 

I was trying to think of some pros to the move to flo. 

One I thought of is that it could expose other motorsports fans to it through flo. People that went there to see their niche sport finding motocross.  I think that most people know it exists at some level.  Not as many realize how big , but still small the sport is. So maybe it has a stronger chance of pulling in new viewers on flo. I do expect that they will lose some. Maybe not as many as I think, and maybe it will drop overall viewership, but increase the retention and viewing time. If its free, I don't feel as bad checking in on a few classes. If I'm paying for it I wanna get my monies worth and have that thing running the entire time.

 

I think that the free stream likely helped local kids gather up real money to help cover the trip down.Being able to tell  potential sponsors they can watch the race and see what their funding helped do. And if their rider finishes well enough even hear their company  thanked  on the show.  I guess its not a lot more  to pay another few bucks to be able to watch the riders You helped out. But  it was nice the way it has been.  

 

 Hopefully the streams work out well and Flo is up to handling the level of streaming that will happen and its not a rerun of a few years ago and the Nationals.

I agree.  I do think the amount of events they are covering is very cool, even though it's not free.  

 

MotoPlayground Spring A Ding Ding and Daytona Amateur Supercross in March, the Monster Energy Mammoth Motocross in June, the Monster Energy AMA Amateur National Motocross Championship in August, the MotoPlayground Race at Ponca City in late September/early October, and Thor Mini O’s in November. Adding to this marquee lineup will be the “Road to Loretta’s” with the AMA Amateur & Youth Regional Championships in May & June.

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I guess it's a way to suck every last dollar out of every last family member,friend,Tom,Dick&Harry that's not going to the race.Gotta get every last penny!They cant have you seeing ANYTHING for free, its too tough on them.I guess they thought they have been losing too many dollars on amateur mx just charging all the very reasonable amounts on attendees only.(big eye roll and sarcasm about this whole stupid decision).Thanks sooooooo much!

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DonM wrote:
You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in...

You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in the opposite is true…you mage the statement pretty sure that burden of proof is on you…I’ll wait…

Tyler D wrote:
"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have...

"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have increased in recent years. in addition, as a promoter-type business with a highly-optimized routine and long-tenured employees, it is likely their costs have remained relatively consistent. Unless the venue has raised rates precipitously, after a stable decades-long relationship, or unless event insurance has become exceedingly expensive for them despite a dearth of tort lawsuits in their lengthy history, there are no foreseeable reasons why costs would rise more than what they're able to recoup through aforementioned increase in fees. Because they continue to put on this event when there is the potential opportunity cost of not developing their pro motocross business further in lieu of this event, one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."

not ai. you're welcome. we don't always have all the facts, but we have the ability to intuit and infer based on likely realities. if expressing an opinion on this basis in a public forum this bothers you, maybe go read a newspaper. 

Maybe so and definitely AI.....but "one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."  How is that bad??  Capitalism at its finest.  The customer...

Maybe so and definitely AI.....but "one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."  How is that bad??  Capitalism at its finest.  The customer has the choice to support or not.

You're trolling me right? You really think it's AI?

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Tyler D wrote:

Revenues have risen more than costs. 

DonM wrote:
I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have...

I'll ask the same question....You know this how? I don't know what world you live in but in every business I'm involved and around revenues have been declining and cost are increasing....Hey I'm like the majority here I don't like it that they are going to FLO and I won't be buying it....But when people post something as dumb as "they already make enough" or "Revenues have risen more than costs" it tells me how far some people are from reality and just make shit up to fit their agenda...

Tyler D wrote:
What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?What makes you think their revenues are declining? Next you're going to tell me all...

What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?

What makes you think their revenues are declining? 

Next you're going to tell me all these concert promoters charging millennials $150 a ticket are barely making ends meet. Bc tariffs. Or something. 

 

He's building AI data centers

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Tyler D wrote:
What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?What makes you think their revenues are declining? Next you're going to tell me all...

What businesses are you anecdotally involved in that are analogous to this one?

What makes you think their revenues are declining? 

Next you're going to tell me all these concert promoters charging millennials $150 a ticket are barely making ends meet. Bc tariffs. Or something. 

 

DonM wrote:
You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in...

You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in the opposite is true…you mage the statement pretty sure that burden of proof is on you…I’ll wait…

Tyler D wrote:
"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have...

"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have increased in recent years. in addition, as a promoter-type business with a highly-optimized routine and long-tenured employees, it is likely their costs have remained relatively consistent. Unless the venue has raised rates precipitously, after a stable decades-long relationship, or unless event insurance has become exceedingly expensive for them despite a dearth of tort lawsuits in their lengthy history, there are no foreseeable reasons why costs would rise more than what they're able to recoup through aforementioned increase in fees. Because they continue to put on this event when there is the potential opportunity cost of not developing their pro motocross business further in lieu of this event, one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."

not ai. you're welcome. we don't always have all the facts, but we have the ability to intuit and infer based on likely realities. if expressing an opinion on this basis in a public forum this bothers you, maybe go read a newspaper. 

Well that's a hell of a word salad that unfortunatley didn't answer the simple question I asked....How do you know?....the posts below HTech made the comment that MXSports already makes enough money and I asked you know this how? you responded with your statement so I asked the same question How do you know that MXSports revenues have risen more than their costs...unless you are part of MXSports or on their accounting team you have no idea whether any of that happened....and by the way I'm calling BS on the "it's not AI"....

So what if it does?  If they earn revenue from it that is a good thing.

Because they already make enough on this week of racing. They're just going to run people off. 

DonM wrote:

You know this how?

Revenues have risen more than costs. 

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https://racerxonline.com/2026/07/31/2026-monster-energy-ama-amateur-national-motocross-championship-available-to-millions-on-floracing 

2026 Monster Energy AMA Amateur National Motocross Championship Available to Millions on FloRacing
Streaming Service to Provide Comprehensive Live Coverage of
45th Edition of Loretta Lynn’s with Access via Multiple Platforms

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — MX Sports is pleased to announce that through its newly announced partnership with motorsports streaming giant FloSports, the 45th running of the Monster Energy AMA Amateur National Motocross Championship Presented by AMSOIL will be made available to its biggest viewing audience ever. The world’s largest motocross event, which runs from Monday, August 3, through Saturday, August 8, will be showcased in its entirety exclusively on FloRacing, with all 108 motos across 36 classes. Additionally, select livestream coverage will be available on the free FloRacing 24/7 channel available on Prime Video, The Roku Channel, Fubo, and YouTube. As a result, hundreds of millions of potential viewers will have the opportunity to witness the world’s most elite amateur talent compete for coveted AMA National Championships at the sport’s most famous and hallowed grounds.

“FloRacing will provide unprecedented exposure for Loretta Lynn’s, bringing this celebrated event into hundreds of millions of homes across the country and around the world. Never before has this event been presented on such a large scale, and it provides a tremendous opportunity for these exceptional athletes to have their talents showcased to an untapped audience,” said Tim Cotter, Director, MX Sports. “This is a testament to the platform FloSports has created, serving as a pioneering amplifier for a wide range of sports and events with passionate fanbases. This is particularly true within the world of motorsports, and we cannot wait for a brand-new audience to learn why we call this ‘The World’s Greatest Motocross Vacation.’”

The week’s coverage will begin on Monday, August 3, with the Radio Fox Preview Show, which will formally introduce Loretta Lynn’s to the FloRacing audience. The show will air at 4:00 p.m. PT / 7:00 p.m. ET on both the FloSports app and FloRacing 24/7, hosted by revered industry journalist and broadcast personality Jason Weigandt along with additional members of the event’s announcing team. Racing gets underway on Tuesday, August 4, when all FloRacing subscribers will be provided with a full day of uninterrupted coverage of the week’s first motos, beginning at 5:30 a.m. PT / 8:30 a.m. ET. Additionally, FloRacing 24/7 will simulcast a two-hour window starting at 1:00 p.m. PT / 4 p.m. ET.

The FloRacing 24/7 streaming channel will also host simulcasts at the same time, for two hours on Wednesday, August 5, and Thursday, August 6, to complement the full slate of coverage on the FloSports app. 

Radio Fox will also return with a highlight show on Wednesday, August 5, at 6:00 p.m. PT / 9:00 p.m. ET, followed by an update show on the final day of racing on Saturday, August 8, starting at 1:00 p.m. PT / 4:00 p.m. ET, when the final wave of champions will be crowned. Each show will air exclusively on the FloSports app.

Monster Energy AMA Amateur National Motocross Championship Broadcast Schedule

Date          Time (ET)   Program                                          Platform
August 3    7:00 PM     LIVE: Radio Fox Preview Show      FloRacing & FloRacing 24/7 Channel*

August 4    8:30 AM     LIVE: LLMX Day 1                          FloRacing
August 4    4:00 PM     LIVE: LLMX Day 1                          FloRacing 24/7 Channel*

August 5    8:30 AM     LIVE: LLMX Day 2                          FloRacing
August 5    4:00 PM     LIVE: LLMX Day 2                          FloRacing 24/7 Channel*
August 5    9:00 PM     LIVE: Radio Fox                             FloRacing

August 6    8:30 AM     LIVE: LLMX Day 3                          FloRacing
August 6    4:00 PM     LIVE: LLMX Day 3                          FloRacing 24/7 Channel*

August 7    8:30 AM     LIVE: LLMX Day 4                          FloRacing

August 8    8:00 AM     LIVE: LLMX Day 5                          FloRacing
August 8    2:00 PM     LIVE: Radio Fox                             FloRacing

*Every lap of LLMX coverage is streaming exclusively on FloRacing with the FloSports app. The FloRacing 24/7 channel is simulcasting select windows for free to Prime Video, The Roku Channel, Fubo & YouTube.

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7/31/2026 7:58am Edited Date/Time 7/31/2026 10:34am

"Hundreds of millions of potential viewers will have the opportunity to witness the world’s most elite amateur talent compete for coveted AMA National Championships at the sport’s most famous and hallowed grounds." I'm not sure how this is an upgrade or bragging point when the previous arrangement was available to all 6 billionish people worldwide that have internet access. This one's a head-scratcher for me.

 

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GrapeApe wrote:
"Hundreds of millions of potential viewers will have the opportunity to witness the world’s most elite amateur talent compete for coveted AMA National Championships at...

"Hundreds of millions of potential viewers will have the opportunity to witness the world’s most elite amateur talent compete for coveted AMA National Championships at the sport’s most famous and hallowed grounds." I'm not sure how this is an upgrade or bragging point when the previous arrangement was available to all 6 billionish people worldwide that have internet access. This one's a head-scratcher for me.

 

Well thanks to this thread I now know that MXSports "Already makes enough money" and that their "revenues have increased more than their costs".....It's been quite educational for me 😂

 

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7/31/2026 9:56am Edited Date/Time 7/31/2026 9:57am
DonM wrote:
You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in...

You’re the one that made the statement about revenues have risen more than costs, not me….I said in my expierance in the businesses I’m involved in the opposite is true…you mage the statement pretty sure that burden of proof is on you…I’ll wait…

Tyler D wrote:
"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have...

"it is my opinion that revenues have risen more than costs. I arrived at this inference due to the fact that we know their fees have increased in recent years. in addition, as a promoter-type business with a highly-optimized routine and long-tenured employees, it is likely their costs have remained relatively consistent. Unless the venue has raised rates precipitously, after a stable decades-long relationship, or unless event insurance has become exceedingly expensive for them despite a dearth of tort lawsuits in their lengthy history, there are no foreseeable reasons why costs would rise more than what they're able to recoup through aforementioned increase in fees. Because they continue to put on this event when there is the potential opportunity cost of not developing their pro motocross business further in lieu of this event, one can also infer it is a lucrative endeavor for them."

not ai. you're welcome. we don't always have all the facts, but we have the ability to intuit and infer based on likely realities. if expressing an opinion on this basis in a public forum this bothers you, maybe go read a newspaper. 

DonM wrote:
Well that's a hell of a word salad that unfortunatley didn't answer the simple question I asked....How do you know?....the posts below HTech made the comment...

Well that's a hell of a word salad that unfortunatley didn't answer the simple question I asked....How do you know?....the posts below HTech made the comment that MXSports already makes enough money and I asked you know this how? you responded with your statement so I asked the same question How do you know that MXSports revenues have risen more than their costs...unless you are part of MXSports or on their accounting team you have no idea whether any of that happened....and by the way I'm calling BS on the "it's not AI"....

So what if it does?  If they earn revenue from it that is a good thing.

Because they already make enough on this week of racing. They're just going to run people off. 

DonM wrote:

You know this how?

Revenues have risen more than costs. 

you must have missed the final sentence that would answer your question. apparently, you lack even the attention span to read said newspaper. 

 

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