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mxb2 2/16/2011 12:28pm
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yak651 wrote:
I raise my hand for doing "nothing" to a new bike, except set suspension sag. Why stick another grand in a pipe that's not going to...
I raise my hand for doing "nothing" to a new bike, except set suspension sag. Why stick another grand in a pipe that's not going to make you any faster? Save all that money that you spend on "bling" for the bike, stick it into tires, a couple of extra air filters and use the rest of the money to pay for entry fees, gas money, etc...
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And that makes you one of the smarter guys. None of that stuff makes a scrap of difference to the average rider and a stock bike...
And that makes you one of the smarter guys. None of that stuff makes a scrap of difference to the average rider and a stock bike is more than good enough unless you're national level.

Put the money into riding tuition, mid-week practice and new tyres.
Of course the stock bikes are plenty good, why do people care how a rider spends their money! Dam if the dude wants to buy a pipe,its his money!
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MXA also sees this sport is not affordable anymore. Not with the bikes, or repairs.

I never switched, and never will. I'll probably buy a KTM for my next bike.

I've ridden lots of 4 strokes. Im no faster, and frankly, cant stand the sound, and I just dont get that excited about it. I'd rather ride a 85 than a factory 450.
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Factory 450 or 85 come on man! Be real.
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They seem to miss the fact that some people like four strokes more than two strokes.

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offspring22 wrote:
They seem to miss the fact that some people like four strokes more than two strokes.

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Exactly!!
They insult the intelligence of many riders when they imply that we're all just lemmings blindly buying 4 strokes because we're told to by the OEM's.
I wonder if the thought ever occurred to them that some riders really do like 4T's.

Speaking for myself, I have no desire to go back to a 2 smoker. And most of the guys I ride with feel the same way.

But if you want a 2 stroke, buy one.
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offspring22 wrote:
They seem to miss the fact that some people like four strokes more than two strokes.

whatthefuckamireading.jpg
Indy mxer wrote:
Exactly!! They insult the intelligence of many riders when they imply that we're all just lemmings blindly buying 4 strokes because we're told to by the...
Exactly!!
They insult the intelligence of many riders when they imply that we're all just lemmings blindly buying 4 strokes because we're told to by the OEM's.
I wonder if the thought ever occurred to them that some riders really do like 4T's.

Speaking for myself, I have no desire to go back to a 2 smoker. And most of the guys I ride with feel the same way.

But if you want a 2 stroke, buy one.
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its so much more fun to ride than a 2 stroke! Stupid smokin' ring dings i hate those things. I have been racing since 72 so i know the in's and out's of them both. When i got of a 250f about 3 years ago i had more fun than i have had in years! If you like to spin your rear tire and look back at your roost, stink up the place and slide around all over the place then go for it. Serious weekend racers buy what works best now and in the past, get it?

I'm soooo over that crap and will never own another 2 stk. even if its free as i am more interested in fun and winning races than jumping on the retro band wagon..BTW i started out on a 4 stroke back then and even then i could see how much better they hooked up but then they really were heavy and under suspended not like todays modern bikes. We used to laugh at those rice burners, ring dings etc etc. but of course i bought lots of them and why? because i was a lemming of course..( Insert rolling eyes here)
Suck it MXA
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Sideways717 2/16/2011 2:59pm
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I feel you should buy whatever you want. I understand why people who race would go with a 4t. However, I'm just a weekend warrior who loves to ride, I have a 7mo old babygirl so I don't have as much time as I once had and I don't know how to do a top end on modern 4t. I have no problems with 4t, I'm not a hater, i ve ridden a couple and was blown away. I'm just more comfortable having a bike that I'm comfortable working on.

I have really been thinking about buying a 07 CR or 08 RM so I can have the most modern Jap 2t base to start with. Should be a fun project!
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Barrett57 2/16/2011 3:10pm
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How about -

If you want to buy a two stroke,do it. you can buy new if you want,or used. (Husky,KTM,yamaha)

If you want to ride a 4 stroke,ride a 4 stroke.

If you want to buy a pipe and loads of bling,buy a pipe and loads of bling.

Dont moan because people dont want to buy or ride a two stroke.

Just turn up on race day,with your light,easy starting,cheap to repair,powerful bike, and destroy those 4 strokes.
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CASH476 2/16/2011 3:27pm
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indy_maico wrote:
I thought this thread was about Jody's latest column where he hates on Chad Reed.

That was brutal!
Care to elaborate for those of us who don't have a copy?
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offspring22 wrote:
They seem to miss the fact that some people like four strokes more than two strokes.

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Indy mxer wrote:
Exactly!! They insult the intelligence of many riders when they imply that we're all just lemmings blindly buying 4 strokes because we're told to by the...
Exactly!!
They insult the intelligence of many riders when they imply that we're all just lemmings blindly buying 4 strokes because we're told to by the OEM's.
I wonder if the thought ever occurred to them that some riders really do like 4T's.

Speaking for myself, I have no desire to go back to a 2 smoker. And most of the guys I ride with feel the same way.

But if you want a 2 stroke, buy one.
raddad wrote:
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its...
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its so much more fun to ride than a 2 stroke! Stupid smokin' ring dings i hate those things. I have been racing since 72 so i know the in's and out's of them both. When i got of a 250f about 3 years ago i had more fun than i have had in years! If you like to spin your rear tire and look back at your roost, stink up the place and slide around all over the place then go for it. Serious weekend racers buy what works best now and in the past, get it?

I'm soooo over that crap and will never own another 2 stk. even if its free as i am more interested in fun and winning races than jumping on the retro band wagon..BTW i started out on a 4 stroke back then and even then i could see how much better they hooked up but then they really were heavy and under suspended not like todays modern bikes. We used to laugh at those rice burners, ring dings etc etc. but of course i bought lots of them and why? because i was a lemming of course..( Insert rolling eyes here)
Suck it MXA
Go back to being a lemming. Ride two strokes for this reason alone, if you keep being a forward thinking, modern bike riding, hooked up vet racer, the generation behind us may not have a track to race on because your modern, hooked up, pig in a poke is so loud it got 'em all shut down. Yeah, I know. I'm over reacting....{Insert rolling eyes here}
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if 4 strokes are so good, race them straight up, cc to cc. no more double engine size handicapping...


ya, I thought so.
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wreckitrandy wrote:
Go back to being a lemming. Ride two strokes for this reason alone, if you keep being a forward thinking, modern bike riding, hooked up vet...
Go back to being a lemming. Ride two strokes for this reason alone, if you keep being a forward thinking, modern bike riding, hooked up vet racer, the generation behind us may not have a track to race on because your modern, hooked up, pig in a poke is so loud it got 'em all shut down. Yeah, I know. I'm over reacting....{Insert rolling eyes here}
Ha! That's OK so did i.. but i can see that the biggest part of the problem IMO as far as lower turn outs is the economy. I can remember this happening at tracks in 74 and in the 80's when we went through economic down turns and there were virtually no 4 strokes at all.. As to the noise, its being addressed at least in D-23 with 94 DB limits and testing at all races.

I can also clearly remember being run off land back in the 70's because of sound. A loosely packed 2 stroke is ear piercing and every bit as aggravating as a 4 stk. But i hear ya, i am all about sound issues and even hate those feckin Harley's when they roar past my lodge in the pristine forest that surrounds me.

I get plenty worked up when i am insulted and that's what MXA did and does plenty.
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There are a million ways to approach the situation if they really feel 4 strokes were a mistake. First MXA called out DC, Kehoe and a...
There are a million ways to approach the situation if they really feel 4 strokes were a mistake.
First MXA called out DC, Kehoe and a bunch of others about 4-strokes, then calling all the buyers "stupid" repeatedly over multiple issues of the mag? I don't get it. It's like a continuing need to criticize people. Like I said, MXA played just as much of a role when they keep producing magazines testing and advertising 4 strokes.
Glad you brought this up.

Where did MXA call out DC, Kehoe and bunch of others about 4 strokes? I missed that.
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raddad wrote:
Ha! That's OK so did i.. but i can see that the biggest part of the problem IMO as far as lower turn outs is the...
Ha! That's OK so did i.. but i can see that the biggest part of the problem IMO as far as lower turn outs is the economy. I can remember this happening at tracks in 74 and in the 80's when we went through economic down turns and there were virtually no 4 strokes at all.. As to the noise, its being addressed at least in D-23 with 94 DB limits and testing at all races.

I can also clearly remember being run off land back in the 70's because of sound. A loosely packed 2 stroke is ear piercing and every bit as aggravating as a 4 stk. But i hear ya, i am all about sound issues and even hate those feckin Harley's when they roar past my lodge in the pristine forest that surrounds me.

I get plenty worked up when i am insulted and that's what MXA did and does plenty.
The difference between two strokes and four strokes sound wise is how much further the four stroke lower frequency sound wave travels. We weren't immune from sound issues with two strokes but with the advent of the four stroke sound issues went up exponentially.

This is the first I have read about sound testing in amateurs and it is great to hear D-23 is adhering to the 94 db limit. Are you running any LL qualifiers?

Given in 2011 the sound level for amateurs is the same as the pros I don't understand why other districts aren't sound testing. Adding into the equation the OEMs went to great lengths to produce compliant machines I hope tracks participating in the LL program do sound testing and that MX Sports tests podium finishers at LLs.

Otherwise what's the use of the new lower limit?
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raddad 2/16/2011 4:48pm
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raddad wrote:
Ha! That's OK so did i.. but i can see that the biggest part of the problem IMO as far as lower turn outs is the...
Ha! That's OK so did i.. but i can see that the biggest part of the problem IMO as far as lower turn outs is the economy. I can remember this happening at tracks in 74 and in the 80's when we went through economic down turns and there were virtually no 4 strokes at all.. As to the noise, its being addressed at least in D-23 with 94 DB limits and testing at all races.

I can also clearly remember being run off land back in the 70's because of sound. A loosely packed 2 stroke is ear piercing and every bit as aggravating as a 4 stk. But i hear ya, i am all about sound issues and even hate those feckin Harley's when they roar past my lodge in the pristine forest that surrounds me.

I get plenty worked up when i am insulted and that's what MXA did and does plenty.
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The difference between two strokes and four strokes sound wise is how much further the four stroke lower frequency sound wave travels. We weren't immune from...
The difference between two strokes and four strokes sound wise is how much further the four stroke lower frequency sound wave travels. We weren't immune from sound issues with two strokes but with the advent of the four stroke sound issues went up exponentially.

This is the first I have read about sound testing in amateurs and it is great to hear D-23 is adhering to the 94 db limit. Are you running any LL qualifiers?

Given in 2011 the sound level for amateurs is the same as the pros I don't understand why other districts aren't sound testing. Adding into the equation the OEMs went to great lengths to produce compliant machines I hope tracks participating in the LL program do sound testing and that MX Sports tests podium finishers at LLs.

Otherwise what's the use of the new lower limit?
I understand that sound travels further on 4 stks but if they are muffled correctly they are very unobtrusive. We have lots of private and as you may know D-23 tracks so we hear about the problems when they arise. The private guys are very particular about who gets to ride, sound and what hrs. That has helped a lot to save our private tracks around here. As far as D-23, we have been testing for a number of years now.

Yes i qualified last year in 40B at Little falls area Q but did not go any further as no one i knew wanted to drive a long distance or take off any time from work etc. if i was to go all the way to LL's. I may go to try and qualify again this year if i can talk anyone into going along to drive!

BTW i live in the forest and many of the best trails in the state are at my door step. I hear LOUD 2 strokes more than 4 strokes but i think that may be because modern 4 stk trail bikes like the 250 and 450X are super quiet and the 2 strokes are more racy models or more ratted out old timers.
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indy_maico 2/17/2011 5:47am
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indy_maico wrote:
I thought this thread was about Jody's latest column where he hates on Chad Reed.

That was brutal!
CASH476 wrote:
Care to elaborate for those of us who don't have a copy?
Jody's Box in the March 2011 issue gives his opinion on some of the top riders.

He says he likes James Stewart, Villo, Pastrana, Nick Wey and some others. Says he LOVES Mike Brown.

This is what he says about Chad Reed, verbatim:

Chad Reed. I don't like him, but not because he's ever been snide or snooty with me (as he has with almost everyone else). I just think that he is always playing some kind of angle (not a big revelation about a guy who has changed teams every time he had a falling out or someone offered him a nickel more). I admire a guy who threatens to quit and then quits-not one who constantly threatens to quit but never has the good manners to go away.
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seth505 2/17/2011 6:13am
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raddad wrote:
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its...
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its so much more fun to ride than a 2 stroke! Stupid smokin' ring dings i hate those things. I have been racing since 72 so i know the in's and out's of them both. When i got of a 250f about 3 years ago i had more fun than i have had in years! If you like to spin your rear tire and look back at your roost, stink up the place and slide around all over the place then go for it. Serious weekend racers buy what works best now and in the past, get it?

I'm soooo over that crap and will never own another 2 stk. even if its free as i am more interested in fun and winning races than jumping on the retro band wagon..BTW i started out on a 4 stroke back then and even then i could see how much better they hooked up but then they really were heavy and under suspended not like todays modern bikes. We used to laugh at those rice burners, ring dings etc etc. but of course i bought lots of them and why? because i was a lemming of course..( Insert rolling eyes here)
Suck it MXA
All this says to me is "blablablaaa, I ride a 450 because it is easiest for me to go fast on"

ps- I'm pretty much you don't see any "smoke" from my yz 250 the entire time I race other than starting it when cold.

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raddad 2/17/2011 6:42am
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raddad wrote:
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its...
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its so much more fun to ride than a 2 stroke! Stupid smokin' ring dings i hate those things. I have been racing since 72 so i know the in's and out's of them both. When i got of a 250f about 3 years ago i had more fun than i have had in years! If you like to spin your rear tire and look back at your roost, stink up the place and slide around all over the place then go for it. Serious weekend racers buy what works best now and in the past, get it?

I'm soooo over that crap and will never own another 2 stk. even if its free as i am more interested in fun and winning races than jumping on the retro band wagon..BTW i started out on a 4 stroke back then and even then i could see how much better they hooked up but then they really were heavy and under suspended not like todays modern bikes. We used to laugh at those rice burners, ring dings etc etc. but of course i bought lots of them and why? because i was a lemming of course..( Insert rolling eyes here)
Suck it MXA
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All this says to me is "blablablaaa, I ride a 450 because it is easiest for me to go fast on" ps- I'm pretty much you...
All this says to me is "blablablaaa, I ride a 450 because it is easiest for me to go fast on"

ps- I'm pretty much you don't see any "smoke" from my yz 250 the entire time I race other than starting it when cold.
Oh ya i forgot vibrating SOB'sWink

Do you know why I and every single one of my riding/racing buddies went to 2 strokes all those years ago? To quote you "because its easiest to go fast on" That was the reason then and still is the reason now that serious racers ride what they ride, not so much the initial cost or maintence which i do less now than i ever did on two strokes btw.. its really that simple at least it is for me!

Hey as i have said in the past and so many say in this thread, ride what ever you like, there are choices out there but don't try to call me stupid for the choice i make. Hell i may end up on a smoker again someday if it turns out to be faster and easier to ride just as i did back in the day..for now, I'm super happy with my YZ450 and you sound happy with your YZ250Smile
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seth505 2/17/2011 6:51am
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raddad wrote:
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its...
That's how i felt when i read that article, feck you MXA! I could buy/ride any bike i chose and i ride a 450 cause its so much more fun to ride than a 2 stroke! Stupid smokin' ring dings i hate those things. I have been racing since 72 so i know the in's and out's of them both. When i got of a 250f about 3 years ago i had more fun than i have had in years! If you like to spin your rear tire and look back at your roost, stink up the place and slide around all over the place then go for it. Serious weekend racers buy what works best now and in the past, get it?

I'm soooo over that crap and will never own another 2 stk. even if its free as i am more interested in fun and winning races than jumping on the retro band wagon..BTW i started out on a 4 stroke back then and even then i could see how much better they hooked up but then they really were heavy and under suspended not like todays modern bikes. We used to laugh at those rice burners, ring dings etc etc. but of course i bought lots of them and why? because i was a lemming of course..( Insert rolling eyes here)
Suck it MXA
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All this says to me is "blablablaaa, I ride a 450 because it is easiest for me to go fast on" ps- I'm pretty much you...
All this says to me is "blablablaaa, I ride a 450 because it is easiest for me to go fast on"

ps- I'm pretty much you don't see any "smoke" from my yz 250 the entire time I race other than starting it when cold.
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Oh ya i forgot vibrating SOB's;) Do you know why I and every single one of my riding/racing buddies went to 2 strokes all those years...
Oh ya i forgot vibrating SOB'sWink

Do you know why I and every single one of my riding/racing buddies went to 2 strokes all those years ago? To quote you "because its easiest to go fast on" That was the reason then and still is the reason now that serious racers ride what they ride, not so much the initial cost or maintence which i do less now than i ever did on two strokes btw.. its really that simple at least it is for me!

Hey as i have said in the past and so many say in this thread, ride what ever you like, there are choices out there but don't try to call me stupid for the choice i make. Hell i may end up on a smoker again someday if it turns out to be faster and easier to ride just as i did back in the day..for now, I'm super happy with my YZ450 and you sound happy with your YZ250Smile
I agree, definitely ride what you want and just have fun!

This is nothing against you personally, but I just get caught up in not liking the 4stroke trend due to obvious reasons like sound and cost of repairs. The economy definitely went south but the modern/more complex 4strokes definitely didn't help motocross as a sport at all as of late.
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CASH476 2/17/2011 6:57am
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indy_maico wrote:
Jody's Box in the March 2011 issue gives his opinion on some of the top riders. He says he likes James Stewart, Villo, Pastrana, Nick Wey...
Jody's Box in the March 2011 issue gives his opinion on some of the top riders.

He says he likes James Stewart, Villo, Pastrana, Nick Wey and some others. Says he LOVES Mike Brown.

This is what he says about Chad Reed, verbatim:

Chad Reed. I don't like him, but not because he's ever been snide or snooty with me (as he has with almost everyone else). I just think that he is always playing some kind of angle (not a big revelation about a guy who has changed teams every time he had a falling out or someone offered him a nickel more). I admire a guy who threatens to quit and then quits-not one who constantly threatens to quit but never has the good manners to go away.
Thanks indi_maico. Wink
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OW38B 2/17/2011 7:43am
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CR250Rider wrote:
if 4 strokes are so good, race them straight up, cc to cc. no more double engine size handicapping...


ya, I thought so.
That's the one thing they have an issue with.

We can hope one day the the AMA Pro Racing type of dudes have an epiphany and realize what a mistake they have made on the displacement rule.
miedosoracing1 2/17/2011 9:25am
2/17/2011 9:25am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2011 9:26am
1. I wish everyone would just stop saying, they like their 450F over a 250 2 stroke. I don't see a lot of ProAMA racers here. So when I see a ton of guys saying they love their 250F over a 250 2 stroke, then I will listen. Amateurs all around the world are going to 250cc any stroke, and then Open class. Wish everyone who posts about how great their 4 stroke is, would figure out that they aren't a pro, so don't use pro rules.
2. The main issue I have, is that magazine writers will write over and over about how 4 strokes are bad. But until they start lining up 2 stroke equivalents in all their cc shootouts, it won't mean a thing. Give me a straight 250cc shootout, and a open shootout in all the magazines, and then let the chips fall where they may. They are selling magazines too the general public, not pros.
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Hi everyone, noob / lurker here, so feel free to flame as necessary; anyway, as my screen name implies i owned a a 2001 YZ426 until relatively recently, and currently own and ride a YZ125 and a KTM 200. First time on a bike was when I rode my brother in law's DRZ-125 about 3 years ago and found out that i had been missing out big time for way too long. Buddy of mine had a clapped out '91 YZ 125 that he sold me for $300 bucks and I havent looked back since. Started riding the ole YZ at a practice track not far from home and absolutely fell in love with the sport and the excitement of it all, but decided in my infinite wisdom that the 125 just wasnt big enough for me. When the time came to invest in another bike, I figured it would be a 250 two stroke. Well, money was a bit sparse and the pickings were kinda slim, but the good lord smiled on me and I found a craigslist gem of a YZ426, so I figured what the heck, right? Took the bike to the track and found out real quick that it helped clear those cute little doubles out of the turns, but she was a beast in the air and slowing her down was a bit of a chore too. Worst part of all was that I was still faster on the YZ (not saying much) because I just couldnt get comfortable on the big ole 4 stroke. Anyway, to make a short story long, I wound up getting a 200 EXC that is the best of both worlds as far as I'm concerned, mainly because that's what I'm comfortable on, but I in no way have any ill will toward four strokes. Seems like everybody wants to make this an either/or argument when comparing the two, and I just dont get it. I believe there is plenty of room for them both, and good competition is what drives the sport isn't it? (FWIW, never had the first issue out of the 426, and just had to replace the crank bearings and rod on the KTM, go figure). Sorry for the manifesto guys....guess I got carried away a bit.
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40Plus_922mx 2/17/2011 10:29am
2/17/2011 10:29am
MXA clashes with the younger culture of the Transworlds and RacerX kids. MXA does not deliver "happy meals" to it's readers. They tell it like it is even when it hurts. And they take a lot of flack for it from manufactures, sponsors, and readers who don't get it.
miedosoracing1 2/17/2011 10:34am
2/17/2011 10:34am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2011 11:13am
40Plus_922mx wrote:
MXA clashes with the younger culture of the Transworlds and RacerX kids. MXA does not deliver "happy meals" to it's readers. They tell it like it...
MXA clashes with the younger culture of the Transworlds and RacerX kids. MXA does not deliver "happy meals" to it's readers. They tell it like it is even when it hurts. And they take a lot of flack for it from manufactures, sponsors, and readers who don't get it.
All I want is a burger with fries and coke. Shootout: 250cc no matter stroke, along with a side of Open run what you brung...
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bk426 2/17/2011 10:39am
2/17/2011 10:39am
miedosoracing1 wrote:
All I want is a burger with fries and coke. Shootout: 250cc no matter stroke, along with a side of Open run what you brung...
Amen.
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raddad 2/17/2011 11:30am
2/17/2011 11:30am
40Plus_922mx wrote:
MXA clashes with the younger culture of the Transworlds and RacerX kids. MXA does not deliver "happy meals" to it's readers. They tell it like it...
MXA clashes with the younger culture of the Transworlds and RacerX kids. MXA does not deliver "happy meals" to it's readers. They tell it like it is even when it hurts. And they take a lot of flack for it from manufactures, sponsors, and readers who don't get it.
Wrong, they tell it "as they see it" there is no such thing as telling it like it is..that is subjective and I definitely "get it" or at least my version of getting itWink
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Sherwood 2/17/2011 12:49pm
2/17/2011 12:49pm
CR250Rider wrote:
MXA is too intellectual for most ( home schooled ) MXers
I guess that means that public schools don't teach spelling or telling the truth....
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yota 2/17/2011 1:35pm
2/17/2011 1:35pm
I spend most of my spare time in the Croom OHV park in central florida which is the largest and damn near last off road area in the state. there has ben a HUGE increase in the number of 2 strokes in the park in the last year and a half or so. for a while they had gone almost extinct. almost all the loud bikes in the park are 4 strokes, most have aftermarket exhaust or at least silencers. add in the quad riding idiots with 2 loud silencers and its a total pain in the ear.

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