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So if he is not an employee or using the money to feed his family, fuck him and the money he is owed, is that what you are saying? What business is it of anybody what he needs the money for, he IS owed it. You are also saying if he is the only one, which we know there are at least two others, fuck him and the money he is owed as well? As far as a W9 situation, why are they allowed to race then? It is old hat the racers are subcontractors, in my decades of business subcontractors were not allowed to work anywhere until all documentation was complete and approved. These riders have to pay before they race, that is absolute, every damn effort should be made by whoever is responsible to pay these people, who are not employees and may just use the money for video games - but risk their lives, as soon as possible. You condoning the hire wire act at the circus not getting paid speaks volumes of your character.
Only came here to say, not a lawyer. I'm a nothing and nobody.
Also, have to mention, hearing someone state a statement isn't hearsay. "At Southwick’s riders meeting Oldenburg asked when he was getting paid." "Aden asking if he got paid yet. He didn’t"
He did say "Mx Sports is", "not Mx Sports is probably". There was a certainty to his statement.
Amazing how good there first album is. I'm still pissed at my Dad for shielding me from all the good Metallica. I used to think Enter Sandman was as good as it gets from Metallica.
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Keefer went MIA because some of you guys are dicks
Respectfully I disagree. I like Kris but my view is he started a fire, blew on it to put it out, didn’t work, and ran away 🤣
Ohhhh…….errrrr……..ummmm, Metallica SUCKS after “In Justice for All”.
1. Kill ‘em all
2. Ride the Lightning
3. Master of Puppets
4. In Justice for All
“DC doesn’t tell me what I can say”!
His silence proves otherwise.
You're saying it would be better to not let people race because of a payout paperwork issue?
Maybe they don't have their account and routing number on them at the moment, or they are in the process of setting up an LLC or other entity who cares, let the guys race and sort it out later.
Might not even be a problem if they don't finish in the money.
In your "non-lawyer" opinion do you think this statement would hold up as fact in court?
“No, we have not got paid, because Mitchell Oldenburg just went up last weekend and asked, and they said, ‘Oh yeah, no, we’ll look into it.’ That’s all he said.”
We don't know who Oldenburg asked and although in the context of payment, is it possible it could have been payment for something other than prize purse? Like promotional or media work, donation to an auction, or selling goods/services to Tim Cotter?
For your accusations of assumption you're surprisingly willing to make big assumptions of your own.
He'll be fine.
People make mistakes, (if that is what happened here?).
In normal jobs/lives little mistakes like this don't get advertised to the public, that's the double edged sword of the influencer/media game.
You got to cut me some slack, I was born in 92. I'm still getting schooled when it comes to Metallica. My friends of misery changed my life.
That sounds like a stretch. I don’t know too many people that keep going to work enthusiastically when they don’t get paid on time. Come to think of it, I don’t know any that would.
Seems like the paperwork issue is on Aden's side. That's quite a bit different than your anaolgy.
Dude. You are the problem. There are a few here that are jonesin for any tea at any time, its unrealistic and frankly kind of sad. The reporting in this sport is directly in relation to its size. Maybe even better than that. Yes, I follow some other major sports and have the comparison first hand.
Take a break, you'll be ok if you don't know what Sexton ate for lunch and told his boss after.
P.S. you shitting on a part time media figure on this forum is a really, really bad look for you Karen. Go pout somewhere else. Or better yet, maybe go for a ride and think about yourself instead of a bunch of superficial dudes putting on a show. Your probably the guy who doesnt ride on Saturdays cause its booked off to watch the races and get more stuff to bitch about.
Out of curiosity for timeframe perspective I looked up Aden Keefer’s Pro results and he did just get his Pro card after racing the futures/next class in SX. At Round 1 he didn't make it through qualifying. At Round 2 at Hangtown on June 6, 2026 (6 weeks) he did make it in and it looks like every round since then.
https://racerxonline.com/rider/aden-keefer/races
lol, yeah he made the mistake of exposing MXSports and got called into the principals office
Aden not having the proper paperwork is your assumption. Keefer stated two other riders who have been pros several years not getting paid, they haven't done the paperwork either? Why would Aden's parents mention him and others not getting paid if Aden didn't fill out the proper paperwork? Surely his parents would know that. And his sponsors for that matter. And no, if his paperwork isn't filled out to pay him, I think there would be legal issues to allow him to enter a professional event. The point of entering a pro event is to get paid to participate.
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Atleast he didn't expose himself, could have been much worse
Yes, that's an assumption I've made because it seems like the most likely scenario.
Perhaps Aden thought he filled out a W9 but it was actually for his team not MXSports? IMO that seems more plausible than MXSports not paying.
He's a 20 year old whose parents have instant access to his bank account, that doesn't indicate confidence in his personal finances.
What legal issue would there be to a rider declining the payout?
Ok, maybe last post on this. Lol.
Does anyone else notice, multiple times, he avoids answering anything about other riders mentioned. Many people have mentioned the other riders. It's as if he works for an entity. He sure shills well. Just avoid the things that prove you wrong, and you keep saying the same thing. Hope he gets employee of the month. He deserves it, fo sho.
We don't know root cause. We can speculate based on probability or emotional inclination, but without knowing we aren't doing anything but discussing potential scenarios and the actions and motives that created them. No reason for any of us to get spun up over what if scenarios.
Awesome endorsement, I hope MX Sports hires me because of this 😂
The other riders isn't a big deal to me, it's a rumor we heard from a kid who isn't mature enough to ask the promoters why he didn't get his payout.
He's still young and will figure things out eventually, but that's not a very credible source IMO.
How hard is it for MxSports to come out with a PR saying “there have been reports that riders were not being paid on time…” and finish the sentence with the facts that this isn’t true and payment was sent and it was a riders bank issue or it is true but will be corrected by doing “x”?
Make up your mind friend either he is mature enough to be held accountable for the alledged, imagined, postulated, theorized W9, or he's not mature enough to even ask for money. Which is it? As far as legal issues with a W9, just an observation, but in decades of owning a business myself, if you needed a W9, you got all that done before you could even start work - I have never nor ever knew anybody who needed a W9 to work and was allowed to work before that was done. If riders are required to complete a W9 to get paid, again why are riders allowed to ride without one? Is this so it is easier to delay payment to the riders, if so it works swell.
Not trying to be a contrarion or be disagreeable, but only about half my customers have their stuff together. NDA up front, contractors agreement, W-9 etc before I ever start work for them. Others have nothing, and ask for the W-9 during tax reporting at the end of the year.
My friends of misery should be Deegs soundtrack!!! I'm in for this...
ML - Set this up at the fake news press softy question get together
Sleep well my friend. Hell of a week!
Everyone is in this thread is assuming everything. The only order who confirmed he is late getting paid is Aden.
Surely his parents would know that. His mom does nails and his Dad rode dirt bikes his whole life. Great assumption they know what needs to be submitted
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